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[kulapik]

Thank you Mrlion for your translation, I'll put it on the OP. You still will have to suffer it on the other responses

 

[Mobius and pet octopus]

Someone doesn't take rejection very well.

Basically a big fuck you to every editor (publisher?) out there.

Doesn't seem smart to burn potential bridges you may have found very lucrative later on in your career, at that company or at another.

 

[Almighty]

Talk about needlessly burning bridges over nothing. Guy gets told that the publishers doesn't see a place for that game in their lineup and then proceeded to yell something along the lines of "Yeah fuck you. I don't need you anyway."

To me sounds like Koch dodged a bullet there.

 

[bleachrude]

The worst thing here is that they didn't even gave him a typical PR answer. They gave him which looks like a real reason here.
BTW, there's another thing catching my attention here, it seems that some publishers might no be fond of PS+.

Well, I know Iwata doesn't think highly of sales and the flood of titles. Nintendo I think honestly believes it is devaluing videogames. Part of the reason why even older titles from Nintendo never get huge Steam like sales.

 

[Seanspeed]

Embarrassing. And suicidal. May as well pack things up now. He's broadcast to the world that he's got the maturity and professionalism of a 10 year old. Not only will no one want to work with him, but good luck finding a job within the industry and he should also consider himself lucky if no one digs this up for any normal job he applies to in the future.

 

[Jacqli]

I am reading all the comments on that Facebook page and... it is sad and amusing at the same time.

Koch Media gave a correct answer (and pretty logical) so this fuss is maybe just a way to obtain attention because I have never heard about them until now. And their project seems to be far from completed.

This is just silly. My attempt at translating one of the comments:

Spidey, I choose what is right and wrong at home, and of course I post whatever I want. People have to know that's it the way it is and I won't be the one that hide and let it happen. I confront. Because I will suffer from bad conditions and the catalog later and I am not arsed to shut up.

Those of Koch Media have been wandering to answer my email one month later and during that time, I've opened my eyes to self-publishing, acclaimed and possible in the new generation that comes along with the new consoles, but their behaviour and their slackness really piss me off. There won't be any editor to get in our faces because we will do both the cooking and the eating, and finally we will open up a market in this fucking country based on importation and where there is no gaming culture. There is a huge lack of inversion to new entrepreneurs and a huge lack of trusting to new hardworking teams with great ideas. Nobody will tell us what to do and what not to do.

I don't give a shit about who is that man, as if he were King of Spain.

 

[Backfoggen]

And I will business suicide a thousand times before being a fucking donkey.

What a quote

 

[simplythebest]

And I will business suicide a thousand times before being a fucking donkey.

 

[mclem]

What the hell is happening? Is this some viral marketing ploy?

I am wondering if it's a misguided "Find fault with the publisher model" -> "Publicly bemoan flaws with the publisher model" -> "Make tons of money using crowdfunding from that particular contingent who are all about sticking it to the publisher model" plan that really isn't fully understanding of quite how all that works.

 

[Ulumsk]

I guess he better hope self-publishing works for them sa I doubt any publisher will want to work with him at this point. Not sure it's the greatest charm offensive for a kickstarter either.

 

[Sakujou]

dude, this is really unprofessional.

he maybe could have done that after releasing his game with his team, bein successful.

bad PR already before even hitting the shelves?

iam still salty about phil fish, but this guy triumphes it all. he takes the cake.

holy crap.

 

[Agent Gibbs]

I'm waiting for a Vice President of the company or PR person to come along and atempt damage control! its going to be all

 

[Acorn]

Scorched earth everywhere, bridges collapsed into the depths of the oceans.

 

[Senor Kami]

What a fucking loser. Homebrew divas like him give real indie devs a bad name.

 

[Hyun Sai]

This is why children must get used to handle a "NO" when trantrums got no consequences on their life.

 

[roosters93]

Y'all and them publishers are going to eat your words when he releases the Citizen Kane of games. Just you wait!

 

[Motwera]

And obviously, he is on some kind of NDA that won't let him tell anybody that he had the game on Facebook, still states the gam is coming -_-

 

[Saintguine]

Awwwwww shit, more Internet drama.

And Jesus Christ, start small. That's one of the biggest Ideaguy pitches I've seen considering how small the team is.

 

[Sakujou]

What a fucking loser. Homebrew divas like him give real indie devs a bad name.

Lol??? What logic is that? Who is a real indie dev who decides that?

 

[ArtHands]

Someone hook him up with shahid or something. I am sure shahid will want it out on the vita.

 

[RVinP]

The developer should have opened this can after he had made the complete game, not before.

 

[fabricated backlash]

It's one thing to be pissed off at a publisher. I can understand that, and especially in the Indie scene publishers aren't quite as necessary as before, but

BUT

BUT

To wash your dirty laundry in the open like that is just downright pathetic. The Koch media rejection was pretty clear cut. They didn't believe in the project. Listed a few good reasons why and raised honest concerns about the devs ability to provide them with a product that can compete in between F2P, free PS+ and XBLGold games.
It shows that Koch Media actually researched the viability of the proposed project, and instead of taking the response as a well meant advise to think about the projects scope/goal/market, the dev throws a tantrum that isn't just unprofessional, but deeply embarrassing and deluded.

I feel sorry for the other team members, gonna be hard to work in this field when associated with an egomaniac like that.

 

[Plywood]

Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.

 

[p3tran]

And I will business suicide a thousand times before being a fucking donkey.

for me to judge if this is a magnificent quote to remain in the centuries, or a spoiled kid's response to a "nope",
I need to see the game he was pitching.

 

[Shahadan]

Concept art is ugly as sin.

 

[RooMHM]

I'm so tired of this peoplization of the industry ...

 

[Joni]

I'm so tired of this peoplization of the industry ...

Blame Trip Hawkins. He wanted to turn developers in rockstars, he succeeded.

 

[MaximoffZero]

"you are all ass and crap"

Yeah, well, well you have cooties and you eat boogers too!

 

[JessicaPadkin]

Did he publicly post this thinking that everyone would take his side against the big bad publisher? Ouch...

 

[ShockingAlberto]

Did he publicly post this thinking that everyone would take his side against the big bad publisher? Ouch...

Decent chance he was inebriated.

Or just has anger issues.

 

[Bravocado]

Just looking at how he reacted to publisher rejection, I can hardly imagine what his response would be if his game released to poor sales and harsh reviews.

 

[CadetMahoney]

I didn't even read the OP and I'm entertained.

 

[Jezbollah]

This must be the developer version of an embarrassing X-Factor audition and the subsequent disbelief in rejection by the panel.

 

[Dr_Swales]

... Oscar Del Moral | Marketing Director | Kock media SLU

Kock not Koch, was that intentional? =)

This must be the developer version of an embarrassing X-Factor audition and the subsequent disbelief in rejection by the panel.

There must be a joke somehow linking x-factor to this as Koch Media published the game ... just can't think of one =(

 

[Matt_C]

I wonder what his staff meetings are like?

Spoiler

http://shenkitup.com/wp-content/uploads/work-meetings.gif

Spoiler tag that gif,

Spoiler

of one of the funniest scenes from the I.T. Crowd. It is a major plot point.

 

[kulapik]

Kock not Koch, was that intentional? =)

LOL no, that's MrLion's fault xD

 

[Makai]

The title sounds like he published his game on facebook.

Thought the same thing. Disappointed to find that the only completed part of the game was the title screen.

 

[Omegasquash]

He mad, though that's not the way I'd have gone about it.

 

[AkuMifune]

I'm going to make game and get millionaire! Who wants to join me it's easy to get published as send a letter!

 

[spwolf]

i dont get why should first publisher you ask publish your game. If everyone went beserk every time business proposal did not go through....

 

[Boss Doggie]

Neosaga is like a mutation of Neogaf

 

[Icarus]

I love how some people think that just anyone can find success in the games industry with an idea and a dream. Sadly though, that's not how it works and publishers are still huge marketing launch pads and finance systems.

Anyone who says publishers (the big ones anyway) are no longer needed, truly doesn't understand how this business works regardless of the proliferation of digital distribution and open platforms. They're right that they're not required, but the chances of success working with one, relative to others who have worked alone are many, many times higher.

 

[jdkluv]

Can't believe this shit is on NeoGAF too. Anyway, good job on the translation Mrlion.

Fukuy, Naeval... this is like Vandal!

Holy shit! So many people of Vandal here lol

Hi Vandal

 

[mrpeabody]

Wow the dev sounds like a fun guy to work with. Sounds like the publisher dodged a bullet.

 

[Senor Kami]

Lol??? What logic is that? Who is a real indie dev who decides that?

People trying to be serious professionals. Someone crying on the web because their homebrew game got rejected is the opposite of a serious professional.

 

[Grisby]

Pretty funny deal. Escalated real quick.

 

[davepoobond]

huh. i dont understand why he isn't being touted as "brave" and "going against the system." doesn't the industry need more people like this to move it away from a publisher-based business?

just because he's using some foul language doesn't really mean much. if anything, it actually helped him because now people are paying attention to him.

 

[God Dayumm]

I'm waiting for a Vice President of the company or PR person to come along and atempt damage control! its going to be all

lol, the same dev is most probably the PR guy

 

[mclem]

huh. i dont understand why he isn't being touted as "brave" and "going against the system." doesn't the industry need more people like this to move it away from a publisher-based business?

just because he's using some foul language doesn't really mean much. if anything, it actually helped him because now people are paying attention to him.

There's treading the path less travelled, and there's publicly announcing that the other path is beneath you then defecating on it.

 

[Takamura-San]

I want to see the spanish emails.

Where I can find a copy of them.