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Puzzle & Dragons |OT2| Don't Ask, Just Reroll
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witchedwiz
Member
that run with gold would make my day :X
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdZdHkdyuMk just saw this on fb holy crap
lightning2k3
Member
I ran it at least 20 times, so 1 good run doesn't mean too much. It was still very nice though.
the_log_ride
Member
Look at the damage!
I wonder how this game will be down the line, with new mobs and the rising damage output of everything.
Anyone on JP server, can you put up a Luci for me? Gonna try for a Cu Chu today. Thank you!
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
I don't have a Luci would you prefer like every other single god/top tier monster in the game instead
George Claw M.D.
Member
Basically what Cosmo already said. Whatever tier 5 dungeon is on 1.5x drop rate. That way you'll get lots of rank-ups for free stam refills. Starlight Sanctuary: King of Gods gives the most exp/stam, so if you can farm that during weekends, that's a good option for +egg farming while spending the least amount of stones on stam refills
The Fire conditional is strictly for speed farming and thus is for very heavy IAP players. So, that's not a good option for you.
the_log_ride
Member
haha, darn.
Looking for a mindless run through 2 heroes. I've got some spike leaders, but not confident in my skills right now to do it with them.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
Asty? No lolcannon but her buffs overlap with a lot of common Luci subs.
the_log_ride
Member
okay!
Guess i'll wait until I evolved my Luci to do Legend, though I could probably do Gabriel/Hermes blue for legend if I had more hp monsters.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
I have run Flame Mech 5 times with no sight of Chaser. If anyone max skills their Chinese gods during the mech series, I both applaud and cringe for them.
You can always reroll is how I figure things. I've had accounts where I played daily for a couple months before rerolling for whatever reason. Plus, we get free stones like candy so you'll get more stones before you know it. As for the exchange, I missed out exchanging with folks on here for my alt so if you'd like to switch: 350.740.258
I have to disagree with this notion. In fact, I would argue that Kirin is the poor man's UmiYama. Kirin can be used not just well but effectively with only farmable subs - Valk/Verche/Echidna/Hera-Is. While the same can be done with UmiYama, the team's effectiveness is reduced drastically by doing so. Using a spot on Echidna? That is a great delay, but she does not satisfy a color requirement. Doesn't mean you cannot have her on your team, but D/L Batman would work in her spot much better. And that's where the key difference between the teams are. Aside from Apollo and Angelion (and maybe Hatsume), the REM is not essential for Kirin's success. For UmiYama, though, the REM and Batcha are your best friends. D/L Hades, D/L Yomi (the key sub I feel), D/L Batman, Hanzo - all fantastic subs that wouldn't belong on a Kirin team but thrive with UmiYama.
As for their active, that is 2 guaranteed activations on a 25x team. How can that be a bad thing? That damage can rival that of a gravity. I am jealous of UmiYama users especially those that have a huge monster box. They are not only a candidate for strongest leads not named Dark Metatron, but they can field many viable teams for descends and still do extremely well.
Septimus Prime
Member
I think you mis-understanding what 'poor man' means.
Poor man means similar but worse. Not it's cheaper to use.
For 99 percent of the people Kirin is better than umiyama and it includes many aspects.
1. Kirin's light have no weakness while umiyama water does.
2. More dark descend than fire descend.
3. Some of kirin's best teams are completely non rem
4. no enchilada for umi d/l batman is not comparable with it's hard to skill up 2 turn
Now don't get me wrong umiyama is a top 5 monster and probably number 3 but it's below dark meta and Kirin.
witchedwiz
Member
witchedwiz
Member
Because i don't have it so, nerf to the ground!ive been farming ocean of heaven. specially the angel and siren stage for the drops. nop just nop nop nop, not a single mermaid dropplenty +eggs tho. sad life,
on topic with dtron teams ive seen a change with gryps and arthur, why is that?
Apart from the joke rant, dunno bro..
On a side note those +eggs are a blessing..
You'll need a LOT..
I have close to 90stashed+
+297 kirin is getting near!
I would say Kirin is better as well for many of the reasons you listed, but I really did mean "poor man's" in terms of team composition. With a Kirin team, while you aren't forced into the standard setup, there isn't much you can do for some variety. You have a 25x multiplier team with virtually the same subs for almost every descend. Okay yes, you can make substitutions to be better suited for the fight, but the standard team is what it is. What is UmiYama's standard team? I couldn't say as it seems like so many things can go into the team to suit what is needed.
I did use the REM as the reasoning so that is adding to the confusion, but I really did not mean in terms of $$$ but rather sub usage and versatility. I'll try and be less confusing in the future.
Nah, lots prefer Kirin as she is more than enough for every descend she qualifies for. As for the delay, while 25 turns is a lot to ask nowadays, 14 isn't that bad especially when a max-skilled gravity is 15.
The PAD wikia is showing that super metal kings was 8:00am for the fire starter group. Is that correct? Sucks if so, I totally would have gotten up to run that!
It appears that is for tomorrow 1/7 as I just hit the site up myself to recheck. The times may be pending as well so keep an eye out. I am on green time and my gf is on red and she made no mention of Super Metals today.
broz0rs
Member
I read about that Chinese player. It was stated he gets most of his +eggs on weekends at the final stage of Ocean of Heaven.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
Opened Pandora's box after finally getting the Dark Keeper to evolve her. Holy hell even with my non-luxury team she's good. Once her L.Skill buff goes live and I skill up CDK/Persephone some more things are going to start dying.
witchedwiz
Member
Who?
Dtron or byakko?
Last Godfest was good to me, pulled 2 times:
1 Basilisk...
1 Byakku!)))
Christmas was too stressful for me to skill up my Kagutsuchi
I evolved my Zeus to Olympos, got 6 Devilings for Stratos and others, and have 4 Angelings left for other uses...
And I'm still missing Hanzo for my D.Meta Team...
1 Basilisk...
1 Byakku!
)))Christmas was too stressful for me to skill up my Kagutsuchi
I evolved my Zeus to Olympos, got 6 Devilings for Stratos and others, and have 4 Angelings left for other uses...
And I'm still missing Hanzo for my D.Meta Team...
MMBosstones86
Member
Green getting Supers two days in a row? whoa
Fire Starter Supers : 8 AM CST / 11 AM EST
Green Starter Supers : 8 PM CST / 11 PM CST
Wonder if thats an error?
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adult snow day # 2. Boss tells me to work from home, who am I to question
Fire Starter Supers : 8 AM CST / 11 AM EST
Green Starter Supers : 8 PM CST / 11 PM CST
Wonder if thats an error?
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adult snow day # 2. Boss tells me to work from home, who am I to question
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
I had one yesterday and it was glorious. Enjoy your second snow day!
E: Has it always been 2 super kings for your 1-year?
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
Pandora (4xATK for 8+ dark orbs simultaneously matched)
These new mobs are looking more interesting but I still don't think they're anything amazing. These examples are simply unobtainable for most players. If you threw any burst team together with all REM roll mobs, +297 on all of them and max awakening, you're going to destroy content. If this was a Kirin or Horus team with max skilled Gravity and the same amount of + eggs and awakening level it would be done without even paying attention.
I'm at a point in the game where I've started challenging myself to complete content with different teams. Ran Fire Mech with Raphael light instead of Horus burst for fun, just to see if I could do it. I started running Byakko a lot more for the same reasons. I'd like to roll these mobs for the "different style of play"/"fun" of it but I'm not putting them anywhere near god tier.
MMBosstones86
Member
For quite a while yeah, just picked up mine yesterday
Haku is a blast to play with and quite versitile. Might not be 'god' tier, but should be pretty close. Just based on what you have available. Gravities, Delays (2), Orb Change, Damage increase, plus mobs with great stats.
Going to start pumping +eggs into Echidna to help out the RCV.
My opinion on classifications has changed a bit. There are mobs that "win the game" and there are "limited mobs". Byakko is a perfect example, she's not the best of the best but she's a blast to play and if you put enough time and love into a team for her she'll crush content more than the Pandora example shown above. Plus her entire team can be subbed and farmed, no need to rely on the REM. Example, 2 Byakko leads, Queen Hera max skill, vamp max skill, Echidna max skill, pick one more mob as you see fit (Hera-IS, CDK, Seigfried, Hera-UR). Put 297 and max awakening on those and you crush anything that doesn't lock you out with color.
My current ranking would probably be something like this with the new evolves:
Kirin/Horus (tied for the top spot, Horus lets you control 4x damage when needed but Kirin's leader skill is amazing). Lucifer next, Byakko, Isis (new evo makes her very versatile and enough burst to finish descended), Kushinada and the rest of the burst teams. I might even throw Raphael in there if I can find a team that can do enough damage for all Descended dungeons.
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
So is there a safe and quick KoG farm team? I tried Haku/Haku and it just wasn't safe enough. HP is too low and you need to mad combo to stand a chance.
Nice! Also, I thought the Supers thing from green was just an error on the wiki, but it still appearing there. 2 days of Super Metals? Hera will be happy.
I'm real glad to finally have pulled Horus. I'm loving the possibilities of teaming F/L Horus with L/D Ra. +0.5s for orb movement, 3 colors covered, 4x snipe and 30x damage dealt. I suppose it's similar in principle to teaming Horus with Kirin. I'd love to see the rest in action (Isis!) with the new busties.
I got the 150 day bonus today!
edit: What's the most efficient method of farming mythlits? Other than the friday dungeon.
Congrats! I'm unsure of its efficiency, but when I ran the first couple stages of Technicals for Pengdras during Mondays, mythlits seemed to drop at an okay rate (so much so that I'd just fuse them for XP). You can check that out and see how it goes.
IMO the Tier list in the OP is outdated and wrong.
I'm not sure anyone would consider Isis top tier or even 2nd tier even with the Ult evo.
Also there's a huge distinction between rolls you want to start with and rolls you want end game.
Also huge distinct over IAP and non-IAP. ( I guess for IAP it doesn't matter since you'll have many Gods anyways)
Certain rolls like Dark Meta is the top roll for anyone over level 150. Its a terrible starting roll since they can't even use it until like level 100 but if you're lucky enough to roll a Dark Meta, it would be wise to struggle through the first part.
IMO for non-IAP
Top Tier
Kirin (best subs completely non-REM), Dark Meta, UmiYama
2nd Tier
Horus, Lucifer, Bastet, Okuni, Haku
Everything else doesn't matter since you should re-roll.
Moderate IAP
Top Tier
Dark Meta, Kirin, UmiYama
2nd Tier
Horus, Lucifer, Bastet, Okuni, Haku, Yomi, G.Odin, B.Odin, Kush, Astarot, RA
3rd Tier
Rest of Chinese God, Valk, Norse Gods, Rest of Archangels, Greek 2 Gods, Light Meta, Orochi, Hades, Venus
MMBosstones86
Member
I think its basically Geomon or Haku. What is your HP like with Haku? A decent leader can get me around 18k i think. Hardest problem is stalling with limited RCV.
lightning2k3
Member
High RCV Goemon is usually the best. I use Goemon Echidna horus Ult evo Gigas and a King Bubblie. Stall for goemon skills on first few levels, kill everything, use gigas on stage 8, goemon on stage 9, then goemon horus bubblie on stage 10. hope for no skydrops of heals.
MightGoThere
Member
0 invades and only 4 regular kings after 4 runs, what the fuck is going on.
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
My Haku team mostly has trouble with killing fast enough on 8/9/10. I get around 18k as well with Haku/Haku + Orochi/Echidna/Ult Hera/Is.
Goemon might be OK if I can manage the damn cascades. That's what usually does me in.
Name a descended dungeon that Isis can't finish with 20x damage? Throw on top of it that she makes early leveling and content a joke and I put her right at the top with the new Busty.
I personally don't like Metatron since you have to control your health. One bad orb match or heart cascade and you're tickling mobs and how do you handle dungeons that you go from full health to dead.
I agree that times have changed from when the tier lists were created. There are a lot of mobs that you can go with that can clear the majority of content in the game.
lightning2k3
Member
On stage 1-7 you can use echidna to stall and clear some waves/heal up to manage the hp. On stage 8, after you use gigas you should be fine. On stage 9 you just gotta pray to the RNGesus. Or sub horus with a lucifer and you will always be fine.
I am non-IAP and I wouldn't know what to do with Dark Metatron if I rolled it, since most of the staples are REM only and you also need to awaken them to be effective.
I'm perfectly happy with Kirin/Horus/Haku leads since they can handle 99% of the contents so far and all the subs are farmable.
I'm perfectly happy with Kirin/Horus/Haku leads since they can handle 99% of the contents so far and all the subs are farmable.
I got my 5 free stones for 350 days today and ran super metals 8 times and got 9 supers and 8 kings. I had invades several times.
I fed Dark Metatron 5 super kings and got a great (1.5x bonus). I fed her another 4 supers and 1 king and got another great. 1.4 million xp total boosted to 2.1 million. Enough to raise her from 68 to 96. Awesome luck, only 345,000 left to max her.