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Puzzle & Dragons |OT2| Don't Ask, Just Reroll
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MightGoThere
Member
I have not been able to 0 stone clear this fucking Zeus dungeon yet, in exactly all of my runs ever in that place I've gotten a 8+ cascade to wipe the mask floor which means that to kill Zeus it'll cost me at least one stone. It's so fucking irritating.
witchedwiz
Member
tonight is my night for zeus!
Yeah, if Robin works then I have everything in that team except Rowdy Goblin, which will be useful against Tengu too, so it's time to get one.
That sounds a little bit like the Dungeons and Dragons game. The Mobage Arena of War game.
I played it a little bit ago, and it's got the leveling and fusing thing if I recall correctly. And you fight by flicking your cards/character and they pinball around the screen. I played it a little bit, but it didn't hook me. Something about loading times I think.
Back to PAD...
I am enjoying Hello Kitty so far. I picked up a couple of the slimes (green, yellow, red) in the 2nd dungeon (not enough stamina for the third). I don't have any dual-color monsters, so if i can get them evolved they'll be my first dual-colors, woo.
Trying to think of what to do for the Hello Kitty - Master dungeon. On one hand, it doens't seem that bad, on the other, if the attack timers hit at the wrong time, or I get orb-trolled, my monored team will get torn to shreds.
I'm not sure I'm ready for a Master level dungeon yet, but... I like killing the cute things...
I'm not sure I'm ready for a Master level dungeon yet, but... I like killing the cute things...
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
Got a Purin on one roll, cool I guess?
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
Brag post confirmed.
Do you still need a Zeus? If you do, I'll make space for you and put up my Zeus Olympios.
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Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
I mean, a lot of us are at the point in the game where we don't need to roll monsters to build new teams around. Purin does something, just not anything that my current teams need.
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
I was being facetious.
Hello Kitty mobs are cool and situational, but none of them are game changing for end-game players.
Assuming Kittyn & Mimmyna does not invade in your run, I think for your Ame team you just need to stall on the first 2 floors for Echidna, menace on floor 3 and kill them all with mass attack and combos, and then it should be safe enough to finish, stall for skills and unload them on the boss.
I just did it with Ame/Ares, but my team is high leveled so I just played it normally.
MMBosstones86
Member
They invaded my run...didn't know it was a good drop. Useful?
bodine1231
Member
Thanks for that but one of my other friends put theirs up for me. Took me 12 stones but I got him,messed up on the masks and got orb screwed a couple times so should have been around 9. Zues only took me 3 stones,it was those damn horsies that took me 8 stones to plow through.
If you don't have Cu Chu she might be an o.k balanced team lead but you would need to have a team of all water balanced type to use her active skill to full potential.
If you don't have Idunn&Idunna she is a good replacement for mono blue teams.
So just a trophy.
I went in on master on my rank 55 alt account using a haku team and I have to say stalling in here is extremely hard with the constant orb changes.
Still managed to clear it though, wasn't that hard. I could pretty much run this endlessly at this rank. I wish I had a fruit dragon now.Well my alt is a unevolved haku team with less than 9k hp, and it just died on the 2nd run. If you have a built up team of whatevers that can tackle descends all these are easy.
Try a mono colored team with an x2 HP multiplier if you're having trouble.
My alt... doesn't have any other multiplier leaders
. It's fine, it's just for me to mess around anyway.No invade, ran it with a Red Noel instead of an Ares. Meant my hits were less powerful, but I had plenty of HP and RCV to run it.
Because of the boosted HP, I just tanked everything.
Now the question is, can I do Mythical with that? The final boss isn't that scary... it's getting to it that'll be a pain.
Zippedpinhead
Member
Kitty Kingdom is really easy to Valk/Valk,
Mystic Light dragon on the other hand...
It's bind is what is killer.
Took in a Freyr/Ares team with a persephone (mainly to up the RCV and occasional dark orb turns). Pretty easy up to the boss.
Boss is a pain, got it down to about 15% and then it bound Ares, Bound Ares meant that my HP was under his move. I stoned because my Goemon had just popped up and I knew that skill would kill it. Pain in the rear, hopefully it will not be as difficult as the mystic land dragon.
Sadly can't just go in with Luci/Luci, and no one puts up Raphael.
Mystic Light dragon on the other hand...
It's bind is what is killer.
Took in a Freyr/Ares team with a persephone (mainly to up the RCV and occasional dark orb turns). Pretty easy up to the boss.
Boss is a pain, got it down to about 15% and then it bound Ares, Bound Ares meant that my HP was under his move. I stoned because my Goemon had just popped up and I knew that skill would kill it. Pain in the rear, hopefully it will not be as difficult as the mystic land dragon.
Sadly can't just go in with Luci/Luci, and no one puts up Raphael.
Mystic light is really easy with
Any light def (Light Neptune Best)
Enchilada
Some 50% Def char (I had a Max skilled fire golem)
Poison(If you didn't use light neptune for res)
Gravity
Best Amu you can find, hopefully max awoken.
Takes forever but nothing can kill you. Enchilada and Golem is for when light def gets bind.
MMBosstones86
Member
I am. Both days have been the late PM slots.
What's your ID on monster strike? for some reason i see your friend invite but i can't do anything, there's no menu to accept, weird.
Not sure if i'll pull the Hello Kitty Machine, i see nothing useful for my teams.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
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Maybe this would explain why I have yet to get any friends despite having the apparently most OP starter in the game.
You should be fine if you have more than 11-12k HP. If you have more than 20K you can just run the dungeon on auto pilot.
lightning2k3
Member
Hey guys, anyone running zeus descended today to farm for skillups? What kind of team are you guys using?
I've not been having much success with either zeus or goemon, but part of the reason is that i fail at stalling and overkill. What teams have you guys had success with?
I've not been having much success with either zeus or goemon, but part of the reason is that i fail at stalling and overkill. What teams have you guys had success with?
ugh on Zeus with Kirin team but cascade killed masks. Still 9 turns left for kirin gravities, should I bother using stones if I die or push through. I don't mind spending stones for Zeus but dunno how many I might have to spend without gravities and will be 3 turns on zeus before echidna is up.
I'm not running it today but this Haku team does really well on Zeus:
Haku
Echidna
Orochi
Hera-Is
Hera
Haku
witchedwiz
Member
can anyone put up an evolved max level (or close) astaroth and link his friend number? want to tackle zeus with that
want to tackle zeus with that can anyone put up an evolved max level (or close) astaroth and link his friend number?
331841202 , this is probably the first time I've actually put Astaroth up
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
I prefer Hera-Ur for Echidna, but Echidna is DEFINITELY safer.
To those who are interested in playing the JP version but have a rooted Android phone, PAD has recently launched in Taiwan and Hong Kong, which is exactly the same as the JP version (the game is in Japanese still) and even share the same server, but reportedly does not have root detection.
lightning2k3
Member
Unfortunately, I dont have haku, so that option is closed to me. I can instead run satan, dq hera, awoken zeus olympios, goemon, or horus.
witchedwiz
Member
witchedwiz
Member
asta aka easy mode zeus
no god in my team and going with a cheap
asta//asta
hera-is (max)
hera (max)
echidna (6 skilled, lvl 43 lvl)
dj (5/7 skill, lvl 58)
i've almost killed the chimeras on fllor 4 and 0 stone easily so far
no god in my team and going with a cheap
asta//asta
hera-is (max)
hera (max)
echidna (6 skilled, lvl 43 lvl)
dj (5/7 skill, lvl 58)
i've almost killed the chimeras on fllor 4 and 0 stone easily so far
George Claw M.D.
Member
You haven't even reached Zeus yet, but you're already calling the team easy-mode? I wish you the best and hope you're successful, but with that team 1F-4F should be easy. Zeus is the only real test.asta aka easy mode zeus
no god in my team and going with a cheap
asta//asta
hera-is (max)
hera (max)
echidna (6 skilled, lvl 43 lvl)
dj (5/7 skill, lvl 58)
i've almost killed the chimeras on fllor 4 and 0 stone easily so far
edit: heh. Congrats! So was it "easy mode?" How many turns did you need to survive Zeus?
witchedwiz
Member
0 stoned
zeus was easy...
even in the UNLIKELY event that he was willing to throw me 2-4 supernova (that i can tank mind you, i have 54k hp...)..
1) first supernova... i survive..
2) if the board has enough heart (6) with 2x heart combo and 4-5 more combo i heal to 47-48k again easily..
3) if i get another supernova..
4) dj dark-->heart.. AND redo step 2..
if dj is down i can throw echidna and get 4 stall turns..
my team only gods are the two heras and most of my steady damage comes from astaroth's counter..
so.. long? yeah
hard? nope
i had to just try and have the two heras and 1x astaroth up whhen he reach 20%..
then simply gravity, gravity coutner..
if he do a double supernova he almost kills himself lal
zeus was easy...
even in the UNLIKELY event that he was willing to throw me 2-4 supernova (that i can tank mind you, i have 54k hp...)..
1) first supernova... i survive..
2) if the board has enough heart (6) with 2x heart combo and 4-5 more combo i heal to 47-48k again easily..
3) if i get another supernova..
4) dj dark-->heart.. AND redo step 2..
if dj is down i can throw echidna and get 4 stall turns..
my team only gods are the two heras and most of my steady damage comes from astaroth's counter..
so.. long? yeah
hard? nope
i had to just try and have the two heras and 1x astaroth up whhen he reach 20%..
then simply gravity, gravity coutner..
if he do a double supernova he almost kills himself lal
witchedwiz
Member
surviving ain't real an issue..
I ran a LOT of descended with monored 2hp/4atk/2rcv (lacking rcv since monored rcv is always lacking but compensating with 2x on rcv)
so going with a 4x on rcv and my team with HIGH rcv makes me just feel ezMode..
i can heal 30-35k like nothing.. 45k is more then doable..
took quite some turns but nothing too extreme..
if we ever get astaroth skillup it would be a lot better..
personally since i was unsure (my first zeus run ever) i preferred to run with dj rather than the red archdevil... and it was the correct choice since dj let me do some extreme healing on demand as a secondary cooldown
i loose a bit more time, but really, i've downed hera and hera-is with a resist team on my first run of these two descended, so i've learnt patience..
anyway took around 40mins top (the whole thing), and that's not too much considering i never left a floor without full cd
had to stomach i think 3 novas simply because i timed badly the heras, but then again nothing too extreme..
first nova (with counter up) used dj
second nova (counter up)
active menace used
full hp
ri-counter up before menace end
third nova counter --> boom
lightning2k3
Member
Ugh, I can't seem to farm zeus in a stable manner. Either my combo skills are lacking or I am justnot + egged enough. Very disappointing.
witchedwiz
Member
anyone else another max level astaroth?
i want to start another run and finish it tomorrow morning (in 7 hours) when commuting
i want to start another run and finish it tomorrow morning (in 7 hours) when commuting
George Claw M.D.
Member
Cool. Congrats. Zeus is a beast and great addition to your toolbox. Yeah, Echidna + DJ really increases survivability. Especially since neither of them nor the Asties get bound by Zeus. It's still not guaranteed if you get Heart orb trolled, but since you're good at comboing, you obviously had no problem clearing out garbage orbs every turn.
I've run Zeus a few times now with different teams, and Dual Lucis are still the most consistent team imo. Haku is obviously faster, but it's not a guaranteed victory, especially if your Haku activations leave the board light on Dark orbs and you don't get help with the orbs that drop.
It's a lot slower, but this team is pretty much a guaranteed victory:
Lucifer
Zeus
Zeus
Hera
Echidna
Lucifer
You can mix and match any versions of Zeus and Hera, but the important part is having two 35% and one 30% gravities. Obviously having a Dark Zeus or Zaerog will give you more HP, but actually less RCV unless they have +RCV stats. It basically plays the same as dual Asties, but Zeus dies in only 2 turns. 1st turn activate all gravities, Menace, and one Morning Star. Make a Heart match to heal a bit. 2nd turn kill Zeus with your second Morning Star.
I've run Zeus a few times now with different teams, and Dual Lucis are still the most consistent team imo. Haku is obviously faster, but it's not a guaranteed victory, especially if your Haku activations leave the board light on Dark orbs and you don't get help with the orbs that drop.
It's a lot slower, but this team is pretty much a guaranteed victory:
Lucifer
Zeus
Zeus
Hera
Echidna
Lucifer
You can mix and match any versions of Zeus and Hera, but the important part is having two 35% and one 30% gravities. Obviously having a Dark Zeus or Zaerog will give you more HP, but actually less RCV unless they have +RCV stats. It basically plays the same as dual Asties, but Zeus dies in only 2 turns. 1st turn activate all gravities, Menace, and one Morning Star. Make a Heart match to heal a bit. 2nd turn kill Zeus with your second Morning Star.
lightning2k3
Member
Don't have a lucifer or a haku, which sucks because they seem to be the basis for most zeus farm teams. I am experimenting with satan teams, but I lack the orb changers to really make him work. I either stall out on round 4 or fail to kill zeus round 5.