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Puzzle & Dragons |OT2| Don't Ask, Just Reroll
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In the last thread I was joking around in one my posts in presenting the idea of a monster whose skill is to convert monsters in a dungeon to king X dragons. Well, Tower of Saviors is about to make a portion of this dream a reality in updating their roster this Friday that features a monster whose leader skill is to give 50% chance of converting their version of high X dragon into king X dragon who appear in daily timed dungeons. The only practical use of this monster is to help players level up faster. Excellent idea for a skill nonetheless.
Step it up Gungho.
Step it up Gungho.
Sounds like a fast way to max out quickly and get bored.
IMO the thing that keeps me playing PAD is the fact that there's always another monster I need to level for a team. Yes I understand that means I enjoy the grind, but spaced out the way it is (I'm not playing PAD for hours and hours, just here and there) it's fine.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
I feel like ToS burns through gimmicks too quickly and as a result there's some patently broken shit in that game; I saw a YouTube vid once of a team of monsters with active skills that 1) caused gems of a certain color to drop far more often and 2) extended the size of the board to the top of the screen for a limited duration, so the turn consisted of a gigantic cascade of monocolored orbs.
This. I feel like GungHo actually looks at their game and makes sure not to introduce things that are terribly broken and/or without balance.
See: Satan's awakening skills lololol
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
I'm in Group B. I ran it 6 times and only got 2 supers. This has been the norm for me with this dungeon from the beginning. Not 1 super outside of the last floor in all 6 runs. Should have spent my stamina elsewhere.
I haven't spent enough time with ToS to assert that there is broken stuff in that game, but generally speaking I love circumventing game mechanics. If there was a way to clear Zaerog dungeon in 10 seconds without use of any stones, I would happily do it. If the ultimate consequence of bypassing game mechanics in such a manner is me getting bored with the game, that a price I am completely willing to pay. There are so many other games to get into.
MMBosstones86
Member
finally bustied my Valk. Time to join the party finally.
Lucy up to lvl83 as well. Good day!
Lucy up to lvl83 as well. Good day!
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
Busty Hermes
MMBosstones86
Member
Busty Hermes
um....what in the hell is that.
atlantaguy
Member
Are those giant shields attached to his shoes?Busty Hermes
I was thinking he's sub-fire, replicating Apollo and Persephone with Artemis appearing to be an outlier with sub-light. That being said, his garish ensemble is completely ridiculous and makes me wish I rolled Hermes.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
Oh right I forgot I've had a Hermes rotting in my box since the first Chinese godfest.
I went to wikipedia to read a lil about him and:Busty Hermes
I really like their attention to the exact details!Hermes (/ˈhɜrmiːz/; Greek : Ἑρμῆςis an Olympian god in Greek religion and mythology, son of Zeus and the Pleiad Maia. He is second youngest of the Olympian gods.
Hermes is a god of transitions and boundaries. He is quick and cunning, and moved freely between the worlds of the mortal and divine, as emissary and messenger of the gods,intercessor between mortals and the divine, and conductor of souls into the afterlife. He is protector and patron of travelers, herdsmen, thieves, orators and wit, literature and poets, athletics and sports, invention and trade.In some myths he is a trickster, and outwits other gods for his own satisfaction or the sake of humankind. His attributes and symbols include the herma, the rooster and the tortoise, purse or pouch, winged sandals, winged cap, and his main symbol is the herald's staff, the Greek kerykeion or Latin caduceus which consisted of two snakes wrapped around a winged staff.
In the Roman adaptation of the Greek pantheon (see interpretatio romana), Hermes is identified with the Roman god Mercury,who, though inherited from the Etruscans, developed many similar characteristics, such as being the patron of commerce.
Either a Light or Fire-sub I guess considering the aura surrounding him & his new suit color.
the_log_ride
Member
Septimus Prime
Member
Anyone have an Awoken Satan they want to put up? I want to try smacking Laophraig in the face with a Satan team.
atlantaguy
Member
Mines only level 53 but I can put it up. Let me know when you're in please.
Septimus Prime
Member
Sorry, my wife asked me to assemble a console table, so I couldn't play. Thank you, though!
I ended up trying with Yari's Satan, and I got owned by the demons. It's probably not the safest team. =(
MMBosstones86
Member
Fragamemnon
Member
I got a +1 from a green carbuncle today in the plant pits, was pretty happy.
The sad thing is that most of my plants will have to go towards the shabo evos, and not pengdra. I am really hard up for monster XP now, have two important monsters w/ level 70 max (for evolution) on 4M XP curves.
You get a one time trade with another player for a "Starter dragon". When you send the present you and the receiving person will both get a random starter dragon (light and dark have a chance as well).
There's some design problems with the dungeon for Ancient Light Dragon. In Legend floor 5 contains 2 demons that only bind a specific color while in Master it contains 2 thunder chimeras that can cast double bind infinitely and I got my whole team binded. As a result you can safely tank Legend with a 4/1/4 team but you can't easily do that in Master.
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
Hahaha - that's fantastic. I mean, it sucks for you...But it's funny that they did that.
I'm currently clearing Legend for my stone with my super gravity team: Luci/Luci + Hades/Hera/Hera-Is/Zeus.
Oh, is that what happens? I got one the other day from someone and I wasn't sure what it was for. I sent my gift awhile ago to someone but I don't remember getting one as well. Must've fed it to something else, heh.
Yeah, the Indian pantheon could use a small boost. Everyone outside of Parvati, really. Lakshmi's pitiful Active in particular could use some new effect.
I've been leveling Duke Vampire in anticipation of his ultimate evolution, as he should become a great fit for Horus, especially if he's sub-water. Echidna, Rose Valk, ult Vamp would free up a slot for any situational needs.
Fragamemnon
Member
I agree. Indian pantheon is in really bad shape. Even worse situation than the Japanese 1.0 pantheon.
GungHo is trying to ensure that everything that flies out of the REM has a reason or purpose, either through the addition of new team compositions and new gods or direct updates of existing monsters. I feel they are doing a decent job-I mean we are talking about running Fairlios and Toytops evolutions in advanced teams now!- but it is indeed coming along quite slow.
To their credit through, there is really only one thing that is arguably imbalanced in the game (Lucifer) and even then he comes at a huge cost of boring you to tears when playing. Still, a little faster pushing of changes would be welcome.
Same for me yesterday. 4 runs and 1 super king to show for it. Decent level up experience but nothing amazing for the amount of stamina spent.
the_log_ride
Member
I can confirm the safety of 4/1/4 on legend. Finally cleared with a double blue Noel team. Subs were: ultimate Sieg, bowmore, Hera-is, and blue mech warrior.
As for speculation on shiva upgrade if and when he gets an ultimate evolution, how about if he got 1.75 boost across all three stats? Not sure what way they should go with a sub element, but thinking about that got me thinking of ultimates in general.
Remember all those dragons that got multiple ultimate evolutions (ifrit, leviathan, Tiamat, etc)? Do you think GungHo will apply this to new monsters, or retroactively to old ones? Would be an easy way for GH to get players to hunt down EVO mats evolving and reversing evolutions.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
Well they did just add alternate busties for the non-fodder Shinra Bansho collab mons like last week. Reverse busty only takes one of each regular lit instead of something ridiculous too. So there's precedent.
MMBosstones86
Member
not yet, but I've found ones that drop enhanced orbs are particularily nice. Stat boosts are 'meh' IMO unless you REALLY use a monster a lot.
I think enhanced orbs and skill boosts are the best awakenings. I just ran metal dragons to use the little ones to evolve some dark pengdras and got a king and Tamadra in the same run. This is the 5th Tamadra I've got from metal/jewel dragons. I've max awakened my Rose Valkyrie and used the others on GOdin and Ares.
Yeah the list is damn big. My gods, Luci, Artemis and Odin don't have that.
Does 2 bind resist = 100%?
Fragamemnon
Member
The thing about this is that you would only want to be spending your rare/precious awakenings on monsters you actually use. So it is by and large team and player dependent.
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Maybe we should just do a rundown by pantheon on what to spend awoken skills on and what to avoid IF you have those monsters and are using them.
For example, Greek 1.0:
Minvera - 1 skill only for orb enhancement
Neptune - 1 skill only for orb enhancement
Ceres - all skills very good
Venus - all skills very good
Hades - skills medicore, not a priority past the 1 point for orb enhancement
Zippedpinhead
Member
Heartbreakers seem to have a pretty good consensus that at least 2 awakening on them are good ideas.
1 awakening on Greek 1.0 is nice (drop enhance orbs) and ones like Neptune, Ceres and Hades are very useful as subs.
beyond that? no clue
MMBosstones86
Member
i believe bind resist is 20% each, not sure how it is calculated : .2 * .2 or .2 + .2 (i think its the latter)
Doesn't have to be your leads. Some subs you use often are good choices as well, since the awoken skill applies to every monster you use, not just the leads.
Enhanced Fire
Enhanced Water
Enhanced Wood
Enhanced Dark
Enhanced Light
Figure out which team you run and act accordingly. Start with harder to acquire mobs (2 Heroes, anything from Descended dungeons, etc)
Huh that's weird. Bind resist on the pad wikia says 50%.
I don't have too many gods, but I'm not going to use a Tamadra on something farmable.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
I think the big thing with awakenings is that there aren't really any teams that require them yet, asides from George's Zaerog farm team. Thus far their main application has been to let you kill descendeds easier, which is why most people currently recommend awakenings that multiply damage. Once content drops where certain awakenings are required (and if the rumors are true, Beelzebub may be the first) then more specific recommendations can be given.
MMBosstones86
Member
you're right...I was thinking blind. Stilll....i don't know if its X + X or X * X.
If it's X + X, then Awoken Odin getting 100% bind resist would really kick ass, and he has 2 +skill and a self recovery for himself.