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Puzzle & Dragons |OT2| Don't Ask, Just Reroll
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Hey guys, I started playing this, because, hey, why not, right? Something to do i the toilet, etc.
So I read the OP (well, kinda, I mean, I don't understand most of what it says
) and I've heard the stories about how your first pull is the most important, etc. First time trying now, and I rolled this:
http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/Fortoytops
So, should I just keep re-rolling until I get one of the specific ones mentioned in the OP? and no, I'm not ignoring the title of this thread , but with what I assume are thousands of monsters in this game I wonder realistic it is to hope for one of those, and how long would it take me to get one specifically.
I'm sure all of you are tired of hearing this stuff from newbs like me, but I'd kindly appreciate any response. Thanks =)
So I read the OP (well, kinda, I mean, I don't understand most of what it says
) and I've heard the stories about how your first pull is the most important, etc. First time trying now, and I rolled this:http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/Fortoytops
So, should I just keep re-rolling until I get one of the specific ones mentioned in the OP? and no, I'm not ignoring the title of this thread
, but with what I assume are thousands of monsters in this game I wonder realistic it is to hope for one of those, and how long would it take me to get one specifically. I'm sure all of you are tired of hearing this stuff from newbs like me, but I'd kindly appreciate any response. Thanks =)
Is Mighty Mouse so little known??
Inky, trust the op. Trust the title. Reroll. Personally, I rerolled every couple of days or weeks and when I fell upon a Kirin decided to continue playing. I wasn't so desperate to play to keep doing it over and over all at once, instead every night or every couple of nights or so I would download it and play before going to bed. Do whatever you want but honestly really truly the op isn't kidding when they say reroll unless you get one of those mentioned.
Hey guys, I started playing this, because, hey, why not, right? Something to do i the toilet, etc.
So I read the OP (well, kinda, I mean, I don't understand most of what it says
http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/Fortoytops
So, should I just keep re-rolling until I get one of the specific ones mentioned in the OP? and no, I'm not ignoring the title of this thread
I'm sure all of you are tired of hearing this stuff from newbs like me, but I'd kindly appreciate any response. Thanks =)
That one is among the worst you can get. There is no Godfest going on so rerolling right now will take a long time till you get anything significant.
But there is no reason to waste the opportunity of pretty much starting this game with whatever you want, on a Fortoytops.
You pretty much save 5$ every time you reroll, compared to when you would actually have to pay for all of those rolls. Rerolling in this game is invaluable.
Thanks for the quick response(s), I just wanted to make sure because obviously I don't know anything about the game. I shall trust the OP from now on.
And blame it on him I don't get any work done due to rerolling
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
I've spent like three weeks trying to get a single Dub-Amelit and have gotten nothing but Dubmyths
why
why
Tonner Cyn
Member
Are the new ultimates of Cu and Siegfried better than the old ones? I have both in their old ult form maxed out and typically use them as parts of teams as opposed to leaders. Just want to make sure before spending the mats on them.
Zippedpinhead
Member
1/9 on FA Luci skill ups. At least I got one...
Now to wait on stamina for more...
Now to wait on stamina for more...
maks
Member
To be fair, the rerolling portion of the OP isn't going to be helpful for a beginner since it only lists pictures of monsters. You wouldn't know what the names of the monsters are so you can't look them up.
Inky, the P&D subforum has great guides.
http://puzzleanddragonsforum.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=17
From there read these 2 threads and our OP for everything else
[Beginner] Starting Rolls
[Beginner] Monsters a beginner should farm for
Inky, the P&D subforum has great guides.
http://puzzleanddragonsforum.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=17
From there read these 2 threads and our OP for everything else
[Beginner] Starting Rolls
[Beginner] Monsters a beginner should farm for
Thank you for this.
It's not only the no names why I was asking, it is because I don't think it makes it clear what are the paramaters it is using for that decision, other than he obviously knows better than me
I understand the monsters have types, elements, basic stats, skills, etc. and that they work on a star system, that is why I thought I should ask with a 5 star Dragon type roll, instead of a 3 star, etc. But the nuances of all those things coming together to make a good starter monster are harder to grasp for someone new. I get the list seemed to be pretty specific, but I still thought I should ask, so sorry for breaking the one rule in the title. I trusted the OP, just no myself understanding why.I also should say that, yes, I was kind of skipping the "do your homework" portion of coming to a new game that seems to have some depth to it, so I was taking the easy way out asking and not reading any guides or anything.
It makes them better at farming, but not really more viable for tougher dungeons than they already are. If you were already maining one or the other and have the team to support them, it might be worth it. It mostly hurts them as subs, since they both lose stats compared to the old ultimates.
They gain a higher atk multiplier but you have to keep the hp above 80%. That's not too bad for Cu Chulain since balanced types have decent rcv but terrible for Siegfried since physical types (with few exceptions like BOdin) have poor rcv. I wouldn't bother with the new Siegfried ultimate.
George Claw M.D.
Member
Wow! Did you do that purely through evolved drops or did you also evo the non-evolved drops? I've been farming EVA strictly stone-free. Only been feeding evolved drops since I haven't gotten any Plants/Flowers until today. Only got 3 skill-ups for Luci and none for Isis or Odin. But that's fine since Luci is the only one I really want to skill-up. At this rate, I'm going to need to stone if I want to max out Luci. But I'm trying to hold out and manage my stamina as much as possible. I only need 9000 exp for my next rank-up. I could run KoG to clear it, but I'm waiting for 50 stam to run EVA and maximize the rank-up refill.
As for the new Siegfried/Cu Chu ultimates, if you already have 2 you might as well have both flavors for added flexibility. It's situational whether one or the other works better as a leader. But as subs, the different sub colors adds flexibility depending on what teams you use them in. Like W/L Sieg works better on Sakuya teams, since his Light element takes better advantage of Sakuya teams' heavy Light bias. And the team usually already has Echidna to cover Fire.
Tonner Cyn
Member
I think at this point I have decided to just keep the old ultimates that I already have. I don't have seconds of these but now I guess I will be running Heroes again. I know it just ran but it seems like they've been putting out there fairly regularly so it shouldn't be too long before I can go for them again.
lightning2k3
Member
Thank you for this.
It's not only the no names why I was asking, it is because I don't think it makes it clear what are the paramaters it is using for that decision, other than he obviously knows better than me
I also should say that, yes, I was kind of skipping the "do your homework" portion of coming to a new game that seems to have some depth to it, so I was taking the easy way out asking and not reading any guides or anything.
Basically, your starting roll will usually decide which leader monster you will have for the vast majority of the game. Leader monsters have abilities that affect your entires team, and when paired with another leader monster, synergize to become even stronger. In the past, there was two ways to beat content in the game, sheer attrition and kill of be killed. You would either run leaders like Archangel Lucifer, who gives your entire team 2x HP and 2x recovery, or leaders like Horus, Ra, Kirin, etc, who have no survivability but have huge spike damage potential(4,5,7x multipliers). Without these leaders, you will find that you will hit a wall in terms of dungeon difficulty around castle of satan, and it will be really hard for you to progress. At that point if you want a good leader monster you will have to spend $$$. Nowadays, spike teams have become more dominant, but you can still do well with a good tank team for the first 90% of the game.
Swap ?
Evolved only. Don't want to bother evolving everything and I want to get Lucifer done before 2x ends so I can switch to Green Pirate this weekend. It helps that Fourth Angel has dropped about 70% of the time on floor 3.
Ronia went 2/2 to max skill. Blonia still refusing to get that final level. Only two baby Tamadra so far. Love running Shiva on Trifruits, it was such a pain before his new ultimate.
I see, this is super useful and checking the wiki it makes a lot more sense. Thanks a lot.
lightning2k3
Member
Since you are new and are not familiar with the concepts of the game, I suggest that you just play with what you have for now to familiarize yourself with the game and the skills etc and see if you find this game fun. In a week or two, there will be a "godfest" where rare monsters are more likely to appear in the REM, and that would be a good time to reroll. It's more time efficient than spending a week or two rolling for the perfect leader.
George Claw M.D.
Member
What's your Shiva Trifruit team? More reliable than Satan?
Shiva/Gigas/Homura/Freyr/Red Odin/Shiva. Shiva and Red Odin max awoken, orb changers max skill.
Haven't failed with it yet, way better than Satan since I always have red orbs available and have color advantage. Only danger is a full set of sky dropped red when I am stalling on Tamadra, and even that has to happen two or three times.
Haven't failed with it yet, way better than Satan since I always have red orbs available and have color advantage. Only danger is a full set of sky dropped red when I am stalling on Tamadra, and even that has to happen two or three times.
lightning2k3
Member
I don't know about razertik but i use shiva echidna horus gigas and ares + shiva friend. You can replace horus with rsonia if you have it, and ares with the red mystic knight. Pretty much just need to match 3 red on first turn, and a few rows until you get to tamadara. THere I orb change, match 2 rows, stall for ares+ orb enhance and set up for 3 rows, then blow up trifruits easily.
Septimus Prime
Member
Yeah, I kind of feel the same way. The power creep is just out of control now, and it really feels like +297 is the required baseline these days.
haha totally remember your ex screwed your run... twice
and make sure you don't let this one slip away!
George Claw M.D.
Member
Nice. Forgot about Rodin. I have him max level/awoken. Gigas and Horus are active on turn 1 due to all the skill boosts. Yeah I can see that team being super reliable for Trifruits. I'm only gonna run it once to test the team out, but use stam mostly for regular Thurs dungeon and EVA. It sucks not having Gronia and Blonia to soak up extra Green and Blue Trifruits.
I'm definitely more casual about it, but I think that's a better way to play anyways. I'm just doing new dungeons here and there and collecting stones. I'm up to 68 free stones, which is nice to have when I need new monsters to bring in some new gameplay and strategies.
Finally got a good team going for green pirates that doesn't involve lucking out w/ stalls using Satan. Freyr/Goemon/HeraU/Echidna/Siren, Ares friend. Stall for fireworks and one-hit the boss. Found it works w/ Ronia friend too so I don't even have to go around begging people to switch to Ares!
I'm guessing you meant a team for Hera-Ur. If so, I would take your second team. I find a heart maker very valuable. If you meant Hera-Is, the second team is still better for the same reason. Watch out for floor 5, though. If the Chaos Blizzard Dragon shows up, he can one shot you with that team. This advice is assuming you are doing these dungeons on Legend difficulty.
In other news, I've finally acquired my very first Valkyrie and Hera-Ur. I feel like I've made some progress in this game. LOL
Jinxed myself here. Had this exact scenario happen with three full sets dropping one after another. First failure out of 40+ runs.
Getting a good baby Tamadra rate now, but no blue fruits. I don't need green or red anymore!
George Claw M.D.
Member
You pulled all the Sonias?
Septimus Prime
Member
Yeah, but also you need the critical piece that's max skill Hanzo. Without him, it's hard to have the orbs you need all the time.
Yup. Red Sonia came on an accidental pull last Godfest. Green Sonia happened in the same set as Blue Sonia. Along with Dark Tron, I'm done pulling for a long while, thankfully.
George Claw M.D.
Member
Nice! Of all those, I only have 3 Ronias. I've wanted D.Tron for the longest time, but I actually wanted Blonia more than her, now. I'd only pull if they ever do a 3x special God Godfest, though.
George Claw M.D.
Member
Yeah. I'm actually raising my second Ronia. Playing challenge mode dungeons showed me the effectiveness of having more than 2 Ronias on a team, especially in dungeons that have multiple sub bosses.
someday maybe if i get the tamas lol, im working on max skilling it right now. 1/6
fa luci is like 0/9 or something.
ive gotten 2 invades and i ve gotten heart cascades overhealing me : i think i could do run a 9x yomi team and still beat the dungeon. 6 turns to kill the boss is super easy.
IAmRandom31
Banned
Hey guys, I started playing this, because, hey, why not, right? Something to do i the toilet, etc.
So I read the OP (well, kinda, I mean, I don't understand most of what it says
http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/Fortoytops
So, should I just keep re-rolling until I get one of the specific ones mentioned in the OP? and no, I'm not ignoring the title of this thread
I'm sure all of you are tired of hearing this stuff from newbs like me, but I'd kindly appreciate any response. Thanks =)
Keep rerolling till you atleast get a god. It is not a godfest, so that could be awhile.
But once you get a strong starter, you can beat the next dungeons really fast too so you get another 5 for an additional roll within like 20-30 minutes probably.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
How are REM rates in other dragonesques? Monster Strike's was total shit in terms of getting top tier mons, and after attempting to roll for a Peridot in this weekend's Extra Gacha in Dragon Poker I am now completely terrified of the REM in that game. Very few games seem to have an equivalent to PAD's godfests.