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Puzzle & Dragons |OT2| Don't Ask, Just Reroll
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For those needing translations:
http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/news.asp?nid=53
Gungho has definitely trying to give Healer types a boost. "Da Qiao & Xiao Qiao" seem to be the best of the set though with the easy to activate x4 (match 4 elements or 3 elements and hearts) and being a healer type. Sun Quan's active is going to be ridiculous when mixed with Sandalphon.
edit: beaten
lightning2k3
Member
Horus is still better due to ult evo. But it definitely makes isis less useful.
I was thinking more of their alternate skills, Sandalphon being a shield and Sun Quan being a delay. Add on the x2 attack for both, and that gives Healer types a lot of coverage.
Only if you're thinking about the x5 and not the healer subtype.
Horus has no type boost unless you take Izanagi? I'd rather have the 13 turn (probably 8 max) orb changers paired with Shynee than have to match Ra style.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
Totally called them giving Chinese girls split busties with their off elements. Now that Team Haku character specialist can clear Athena without spending 100 stones.
Goddess in Paradise only has Chimeras and Pengdras with a smaller chance of dropping plus eggs. Any of the other dungeons leading up to GiP have better success for me and you have the chance of fully evolved Pengdras.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
They would never make a condition so lenient, and the l.skill specifically says "attack with".
Jonsoncao
Banned
Talos's Abyss or Aether Desert?
the_log_ride
Member
Can someone put up a flame chaser for me? Gonna go for S rank and get me a tama
Yes. Or even the Water/Fire/Wood versions. They have a chance to drop ogres and devils with better chance for + eggs. I just run based on the low level fodder I need for feeding or what Dub I'm lacking. I need a lot of light dub from Aether Desert atm, will probably run that.
the_log_ride
Member
Cosigned. Just did this with a Valk team. Had shynee on there but didn't need him like raz said. Was lucky enough to score enough with combos and # of turns to get over the 200k point mark.
Zippedpinhead
Member
Quick Question
about how much does one Row enhancement awakening add?
I've got three dark row enhancements on my dark team currently, Four on my Haku team, and could potentially get seven dark row enhancements on my devil team (gotta work on awakening satan).
MUCH LONGER Question:
Also thinking that my Shinji x Kaworu could work well on the Haku team instead of Hera-Is. Unit 13 has two row enhance awakenings and a skill cooldown, but sometimes Gravity is necessary... Also trading HP and RCV for a lot more ATK.
The rest of the Haku team would be Haku, FA Luci (Fully Awoken, 1 skill up), Loki (1 awakening so far, 1 skill up), and the red sub
Red Options are Shiva with 2 awakenings but not ultimate evolved yet, Dark Minerva no awakenings or skill ups, Ultimate Freyr with no awakenings, Hera-Ur but mostly as a red stat stick, and Goemon as a red stat stick. I also have a Chiyome (unevolved 5*), ultimate Berserk (max skilled), and Ultimate Persephone (1 skill up no awakenings)
Blue options other than Unit 13 and Hera-Is, I have the previously mentioned Ulti Berserk. I also have a Dark Neptune with 2 awakenings, Ulti Drawn Joker (max skilled), Satan (no awakenings), and a Dark Liege Vampire (dark/blue Vamp as opposed to blue/dark vamp) max skilled
about how much does one Row enhancement awakening add?
I've got three dark row enhancements on my dark team currently, Four on my Haku team, and could potentially get seven dark row enhancements on my devil team (gotta work on awakening satan).
MUCH LONGER Question:
Also thinking that my Shinji x Kaworu could work well on the Haku team instead of Hera-Is. Unit 13 has two row enhance awakenings and a skill cooldown, but sometimes Gravity is necessary... Also trading HP and RCV for a lot more ATK.
The rest of the Haku team would be Haku, FA Luci (Fully Awoken, 1 skill up), Loki (1 awakening so far, 1 skill up), and the red sub
Red Options are Shiva with 2 awakenings but not ultimate evolved yet, Dark Minerva no awakenings or skill ups, Ultimate Freyr with no awakenings, Hera-Ur but mostly as a red stat stick, and Goemon as a red stat stick. I also have a Chiyome (unevolved 5*), ultimate Berserk (max skilled), and Ultimate Persephone (1 skill up no awakenings)
Blue options other than Unit 13 and Hera-Is, I have the previously mentioned Ulti Berserk. I also have a Dark Neptune with 2 awakenings, Ulti Drawn Joker (max skilled), Satan (no awakenings), and a Dark Liege Vampire (dark/blue Vamp as opposed to blue/dark vamp) max skilled
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
Row enhancement adds 10% per. Rule of thumb is that you need at least five row awakenings to be "worth it", because 2x3 orbs adds 125% damage while 1x6 only adds 75%.
It adds 10% per row per enhancement.
For example, 1 row with 7 enhancements would give you 1.7x, 2 rows with 7 enhancements would give you 2.4x.
lightning2k3
Member
I always heard that 4 row enhancements was enough. Plus when you match a row of 6 you get an aoe attack, which is useful in many situations.
Ok good timing with the row enhance question floating around. I've been working on this team on the side for twins. How can I improve it? Trying to see if this could work for KoG but would need the right friend leaders.
Right now I'm sitting at 60% row enhance once fully awoken and 3 skill cooldowns. Id like to get a light enhancement in there some how and two more skill cooldowns. Need that lemon dragon.
Right now I'm sitting at 60% row enhance once fully awoken and 3 skill cooldowns. Id like to get a light enhancement in there some how and two more skill cooldowns. Need that lemon dragon.
George Claw M.D.
Member
I haven't been paying attention to this week's special dungeons. I wouldn't have known Breakers has a score rank if it weren't for you guys. Did Take also have a score rank?
And yeah, Qiao sisters might be better than Horus due to even easier activation and Healer sub-type. Also, nobody mentioned that with these sisters, L.Tron continues to hold that L.
And yeah, Qiao sisters might be better than Horus due to even easier activation and Healer sub-type. Also, nobody mentioned that with these sisters, L.Tron continues to hold that L.
Ok good timing with the row enhance question floating around. I've been working on this team on the side for twins. How can I improve it? Trying to see if this could work for KoG but would need the right friend leaders.
Right now I'm sitting at 60% row enhance once fully awoken and 3 skill cooldowns. Id like to get a light enhancement in there some how and two more skill cooldowns. Need that lemon dragon.
I would say replace verche with valk, venus with a unicorn. If you team up with Wukong, you'll need a valk to make best use of his and Ralph's active. Also, i dont know if this team can do Kog, unless you bring a unicorn. Zeus has a lot of health to burst through.
S-ranked breakers quite easily with Haku lead and 1 star trash subs on both my main and alt. Didn't really need high levels either, just need to be able to stall on the first four rounds till Haku is up for safety.
And they said the Qiao sisters would be good subs for LTron, definitely did not realize the irony of that statement there.
And they said the Qiao sisters would be good subs for LTron, definitely did not realize the irony of that statement there.
Ok good timing with the row enhance question floating around. I've been working on this team on the side for twins. How can I improve it? Trying to see if this could work for KoG but would need the right friend leaders.
Right now I'm sitting at 60% row enhance once fully awoken and 3 skill cooldowns. Id like to get a light enhancement in there some how and two more skill cooldowns. Need that lemon dragon.
I don't think this will do enough damage for King of Gods since you must one shot without a delay.
For Twinlits, drop Raphael for Valk. You need at least two quick orb changers. Also, you can substitute Green Odin instead of Lemon Dragon for Venus (or Thor if you aren't using his active). He will provide the necessary skill boosts to get you to five and still give you 10 light attribute attacks. You will still need to pair with another Divinegon.
Good point about Valk over verche. Forgot that Raphael skill needs valk to be effective, thinking it was turn the board light for some dumb reason. I want to slot in Takeminikata (don't have Unicorn and I think he's better overall) but don't want to lose the row enhance. I would also need to lvl and awaken him.
What would the math look like if I have 50% row enhance, 3x from Divenegon, 4x from Wu Kong and orb enhance from Takeminakata? I would think that could one shot anything but would leave me with trolling on any earlier rounds.
Evaluating the new gods again...
>50% to get 1.5x rcv sucks, why would you need more RCV when you're at >50% HP unless your RCV is really low or your HP is really high. And if your RCV is really low anyway, you'll have trouble going back to >50% HP. So without the RCV bonus, it's 3x at >50% HP which is underwhelming.
Cao Cao: Great typing (red attacker), meh LS, decent AS starts at 14 turns so maybe 9turns max. Pretty decent. Stat distribution is your typical attacker (high atk and low rcv)
Sun Quan: Meh typing (blue healer), meh LS, amazing AS but starts at 18 turns, maybe could be brought down to 13 turns maxed? Definitely need skill up but great replacement for Shynee.
Liu Bei: Terrible typing (green attacker), meh LS, decent AS. Starts at 15 turns so that's probably max at turn 10. Not particularly interesting.
DaQiaoXiaoQiao: Great typing (light healer), great LS, decent AS starts at turn 13 that's the same as heroes so assume max turn 8.
Lu Bu: Great typing (who doesn't like dark devils), meh LS, questionable AS. Would have been a good stat replacement for king baddie, but reducing hp to 1 for only 10x damage seems quite bad. Starts at 16 turns. 0 rcv? Very high atk.
Guan Yu (5star): Conditional 3.5x is definitely far better than 3x, but again feels kind of underwhelming similar to LMeta's ult evo. It's a heartbreaker that starts at turn 12 for extra 3k hp heal so nothing great here either. Seems to have very low RCV. Meh unless easy to skill up. Meh typing (green physical).
Guan Yu (6star): Pretty much same as above. Meh typing (red dragon)
So... green seem to get the shaft again, guan yus are probably stat sticks and seems like you'd wish you roll other godfest exclusives instead, and unless the awakenings of these gods are amazing, overall they're not really exciting except for the healer gods.
>50% to get 1.5x rcv sucks, why would you need more RCV when you're at >50% HP unless your RCV is really low or your HP is really high. And if your RCV is really low anyway, you'll have trouble going back to >50% HP. So without the RCV bonus, it's 3x at >50% HP which is underwhelming.
Cao Cao: Great typing (red attacker), meh LS, decent AS starts at 14 turns so maybe 9turns max. Pretty decent. Stat distribution is your typical attacker (high atk and low rcv)
Sun Quan: Meh typing (blue healer), meh LS, amazing AS but starts at 18 turns, maybe could be brought down to 13 turns maxed? Definitely need skill up but great replacement for Shynee.
Liu Bei: Terrible typing (green attacker), meh LS, decent AS. Starts at 15 turns so that's probably max at turn 10. Not particularly interesting.
DaQiaoXiaoQiao: Great typing (light healer), great LS, decent AS starts at turn 13 that's the same as heroes so assume max turn 8.
Lu Bu: Great typing (who doesn't like dark devils), meh LS, questionable AS. Would have been a good stat replacement for king baddie, but reducing hp to 1 for only 10x damage seems quite bad. Starts at 16 turns. 0 rcv? Very high atk.
Guan Yu (5star): Conditional 3.5x is definitely far better than 3x, but again feels kind of underwhelming similar to LMeta's ult evo. It's a heartbreaker that starts at turn 12 for extra 3k hp heal so nothing great here either. Seems to have very low RCV. Meh unless easy to skill up. Meh typing (green physical).
Guan Yu (6star): Pretty much same as above. Meh typing (red dragon)
So... green seem to get the shaft again, guan yus are probably stat sticks and seems like you'd wish you roll other godfest exclusives instead, and unless the awakenings of these gods are amazing, overall they're not really exciting except for the healer gods.
the_log_ride
Member
Ltron's Busty should have had her show the 'L' that's tattooed to her chest.
How were the new god sisters supposed to help her out anyway?
Regarding the score system, since Breakers has a score mode, do all the Survey dungeons have it, too? I can't remember on the JP side. I think not. Just wondering what the easiest dungeons there are for getting S ranks.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
Don't think any survey dungeons asides from Hamahime has score attack.
Zippedpinhead
Member
Tomorrow can't come soon enough. I have 5 evolved sixth angels to feed to FA luci and 22 unevolved ones (half max level) that need plants and lits to evolve. and not a whole lot of space for either any evo material.
maybe I won't go 1/15 on FA luci feeds this weekend...
maybe I won't go 1/15 on FA luci feeds this weekend...
From puzzleanddragonsforum :
Updated info post with max level stats and awakenings. Reposting here for ease.
Cao Cao: God/Attacker
3195/1856/27
Awakenings: Fire row boost, fire orb enhance, skill bind resist, skill boost
Active Skill: 1 turn delay and change water orbs to fire orbs
Leader Skill: Attackers gets a little hp boost and attack x3
Sun Quan: God/Healer
2795/1183/530
Awakenings: Water row boost, water orb enhance, blind resist, skill boost
Active Skill: 2 turn delay, healer x2 attack for 2 turns
Leader Skill: When HP is above 50% Healer attack x3 and rcv x1.5
Liu Bei: God/Attacker
2525/1645/353
Awakenings: Wood row boost, wood orb enhance, jammer resist, skill boost
Active Skill: Dark and Heal orbs become Wood Orbs and Heal 3k hp
Leader Skill: When HP is above 50% Attackers attack x3 and rcv x1.5
Qiao Sisters: God/Healer
2415/1221/641
Awakenings: Light row boost, water row boost, movement time, skill boost
Active Skill: Change dark to light orbs and fire to heart orbs
Leader Skill: 4 elements or 3 elements + hearts gives x4 atk
Lu Bu: God/Devil
2613/2093/0
Awakenings: Dark row boost, dark orb enhance, bind resist, skill boost
Active Skill: For 1 turn Devils get 2.5x attack, reduce team HP to 1, and cause 10x attack mass attack
Leader Skill: Devils gets a little hp boost and attack x3
Guan Yu 5 stars: Wood/Light God/Physical
4118/1337/182
Awakenings: Wood row boost, bind resist, skill boost, autoheal, skill boost
Active Skill: Change heart orbs to wood orbs and recover 3k HP
Leader Skill: When HP is above 50% Physical type 3.5x atk and 1.5x RCV
Guan Yu 6 stars: Fire/Dark God/Dragon
3945/1537/203
Awakenings: Fire row boost, autoheal, bind resist, skill boost, autoheal, skill boost
Active Skill: Change heart orbs to fire orbs and recover 3k HP
Leader Skill: When HP is above 50% Dragon type 3.5x atk and 1.5x RCV
George Claw M.D.
Member
I like the sisters' time extension and skill boost awakenings. But the 2 row enhances seem kind of useless for a leader skill that needs to match 4 different types of orbs. I guess they would be more useful if used in a sub slot instead, which is why it was said they'd make a good L.Tron/Valk sub. Qiao + Valk turns Dark, Fire, and Hearts into Light orbs.
LOL @ Gungho giving Da Qiao & Xiao Qiao time awakening too.
Gungho has to get people to pull for those Blue Valkyries somehow.
Gungho has to get people to pull for those Blue Valkyries somehow.
chickdigger802
Banned
is p&z worth getting into new atm? Played a while back for a bit until my file got randomly corrupted :S
seems a bit different now.
edit: huh rolled a bastet first time. dont remember her being on tier lists before
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seems a bit different now.
edit: huh rolled a bastet first time. dont remember her being on tier lists before
.Septimus Prime
Member
I think I'm kind of burnt out on this game, guys. =(
lightning2k3
Member
Take a break, maybe logging in to collect free stones. No one can play a single game forever. You may come back refreshed after a few weeks off or you may not come back at all. Either way just enjoy what you are doing.
George Claw M.D.
Member
Why the sad face? It happens. Like Lightning said, maybe you need a break or slow your pace. But if you just don't regain interest in the game, no big deal. We don't all play just one game. It was fun while it lasted. On to the next one!
You are set Bastet is end game material.is p&z worth getting into new atm? Played a while back for a bit until my file got randomly corrupted :S
seems a bit different now.
edit: huh rolled a bastet first time. dont remember her being on tier lists before