Weird...I've always thought you were much higher ranked and had uber maxed monsters all this time.
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Weird...I've always thought you were much higher ranked and had uber maxed monsters all this time.
I am guilty of spreading EXP myself.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
Splitting time between two versions and no IAP, also throwing away stamina at Legendary dungeons instead of jewel dragons and using stones on REM instead of box space
the_log_ride
Member
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
Having a weird amount of stam makes farming supers tough. I have 120 stam right now, so I can do 2 supers + 1 OoH. It takes more time than I'd like to do the OoH and thus slows my farming.
That aside, I got 5 supers, so I'm just deciding who to pump.
Anyone know any safe/quick Mythical Goemon builds? I know I can do Luci/Luci, but it's just so SLOW.
That aside, I got 5 supers, so I'm just deciding who to pump.
Anyone know any safe/quick Mythical Goemon builds? I know I can do Luci/Luci, but it's just so SLOW.
After going 0/6 and 0/3 for Verche skillups yesterday, I get rewarded by 2 invades out of 3 super runs. Those 5 Super Rubies helped get Goemon from 48 to 75! If I wasn't working at the time, I definitely would've stoned for a couple more runs to see if that streak continued.
Haha I'm in the same scenario so I know that feeling.
Haha I'm in the same scenario so I know that feeling.
Septimus Prime
Member
Safe? Yes. Quick? No. Maybe a 4/2/2 team with Hermes and I&I (or Depth Plesios)? You only need 26k HP to tank Coin Toss.
Of course, the rest of the dungeon will be pretty hard with that team.
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
I could try a Horus/Horus - something I haven't played in a while. I'd go Kirin, but it's far too easy to get screwed on the first round. Horus has significantly less chance to get turn 1 screwed.
I may just bite the bullet and farm with Luci/Luci. I've been thinking about running Ur/Ur, but I don't know if I can do it. Luci/Luci is safe and takes only about 20 minutes or so. Just a LOT of Goemon runs, haha.
atlantaguy
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Yeah that period lasted way too long for my taste. The worst was when I was running 2 Supers then 3 Sea God of Heaven. I hit 149 stamina yesterday though, so today was incredible. By the time I finish the first 2 runs, I just had to wait a few minutes for that last point.
As for Mythical Goemon, I'm still a little stumped. I know I ran a 2/4/2 Hermes/I&I team last time he came around but I think that was for Legendary. Mitsuki would certainly be an issue, and Goemon would not be all that easy either. I might just go with my original Lucifer team. I'll have almost 20k more HP than the first time I ran it, so it should be safe, but you're right. It issuper slow. If anybody has suggestions I would much appreciate it.
Septimus Prime
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The dungeon itself is much harder than the boss, imo. I actually got wiped once on the first round with a double Lucifer team (the same one I posted on PDX) with 60k HP and Siren. Those little ninjas just hit way too hard and are way too hardy.
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
Yeah - my team is Luci/Luci + Hera-Is/Hera/DL Hades/Dark Ceres. Tons of HP and enough RCV to make my life not miserable. Goemon is still a crap shoot, though. If I get really unlucky and have a double leader bind, it's a guaranteed wipe. Which sucks.
Ugh why doesn't Lucifer have resist bind? seriously!
atlantaguy
Member
Bring Rainbow Keeper instead of one of those Gravities. Pop his skill before Goemon uses his bind. Should at least help in the event of a double Lucifer bind.
Haha, as if Lucifer doesn't have enough going for him
BladeoftheImmortal
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Wasted a stone and 50 stamina on super rubies. I got a super ruby on the first round, so I couldn't stall my droid dragon. Got beasted. Went through it two others times, and got my gigas from level 31 to 55 so not so bad.
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
His awakenings are terrible...The least they could have done is exactly this. Give him a utility if nothing else. Although my Ceres has one level of awakening and thus has recover bind. The problem is that this means I STILL need to take a hit, and I STILL can't do that with double Luci bind.
My current options right now are (buffed HP/unbuffed HP/RCV/RCV with 1 combo):
Luci/Luci + Hera-Is/Hera/Ceres/BlOdin - 73096/18274/12680/15850
Luci/Luci + Hera-Is/DL Hades/Ceres/BlOdin - 72312/18078/13232/16540
DL Hades gives me more RCV, so I think I may go that route. It also introduces a light element for combos against the ninjas. And really, after I get enough plants tomorrow, BlOdin will likely be in the 90's. That's another 1100 HP buffed and 124 RCV buffed from my current level 79.
PS - BlOdin is fucking nuts. Probably some of the best overall stats in the game. I'm quite happy I got lucky and pulled him a while back.
E: A a Keeper could work actually. Just such a waste of a spot, haha.
I think the box space thing is hurting you overall. I'm a free player myself. I put $20 into the game in my first couple months of play but haven't spent a dime since that money went to useless rolls that did nothing for my progress. I'm still close to maxing out my 9th and 10th mobs (Byakko and Hera-UR). Getting box space to be able to hold enough pengdras, plants and evo mats speeds things up dramatically. You don't need 300 spaces either, I've been at 150 -165 for a long time and it's enough but tight. I farm about 20 - 25 plants on Thursday, hill of iris Monday then evo when the metal dungeon comes around. You get big big chunks of exp that way. 20 level in Hera ur from that process today.
I'm sure the dual accounts is a big factor too. I had to stop the Japanese account it was just too much of a time sync managing both. But thought I'd throw in my 2cents. I always think about it as 50 box spaces = golem and a rider.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
How do you survive with 150 cards?? I'm at 220 right now and need to clear out the fridge constantly.
Septimus Prime
Member
I'd recommend Siren over Ceres. You won't get a double shot of Morning Star, but Siren will help you stall for 30 turns so you can land your six Ultra Gravities.
As for the little ninjas, sometimes them's the breaks. The time I lost, it was a round of 5-6 of those little shits, and they were all hitting me for over 30k per turn, on round 1. I just couldn't out-heal it.
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
I guess that's fair (Siren vs Ceres), but my Siren is severely underleveled (I think she's 72 or something dumb). I did it with Ceres 0-stone last time, but I got lucky and didn't get leader bound.
atlantaguy
Member
I don't know, the stalling isn't the hard part, particularly with the stats you have. The trouble is really the first few rounds and then surviving Goemon's first few turns. The extra HP/RCV from Ceres would be very helpful for the first few rounds at least. And I really think Rainbow Keeper instead of Hera is the way to go. The only downside is a little bit of extra stalling on Goemon and a slight hit in RCV. This team is essentially what I ran last time but with Neptune instead of Ceres. I got double leader bound and made it through.
Septimus Prime
Member
If I remember correctly (and I might not, since it's been a while), if you knock Goemon into his Coin Throw threshold, he won't even do the bind, and three gravs will put him there right off the bat. The danger is that now you're going to have to stall through a bunch of Coin Throws, but at least there's no potential instant-death bind.
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
I guess I could put RK in there instead of Hera and do Hera-Is/DL Hades/Ceres/RK. I still get all my dark bonuses and 2 gravity users. If I pop RK right away, that should be fine. I was worried that only 2 gravity users wouldn't cut it. After MATH, it appears as though 2 gravity nearly the same as 3 since you need to charge MS back up no matter what.
Good call.
Alright after Ruby I ended up with 3 Supers, 6 Kings and 13 Highs.
For reds I have a 69 Empress Echidna, 41 Minerva, 28 Firedragon Tyrannos, 33 Gigas, 15 Drall, 6 Mystic Flame Knight and 30 Leilan.
Just dunno where to put the eggs, leaning either Echidna or Minerva but I don't really run mono-red team. Not much that'll help me with Goemon but planning ahead would be nice to have a direction.
Edit: Oh I guess I have Dino Rider too and while I kinda hate putting points into that I do want to build my DA Metatron team sometime argh >.<
For reds I have a 69 Empress Echidna, 41 Minerva, 28 Firedragon Tyrannos, 33 Gigas, 15 Drall, 6 Mystic Flame Knight and 30 Leilan.
Just dunno where to put the eggs, leaning either Echidna or Minerva but I don't really run mono-red team. Not much that'll help me with Goemon but planning ahead would be nice to have a direction.
Edit: Oh I guess I have Dino Rider too and while I kinda hate putting points into that I do want to build my DA Metatron team sometime argh >.<
Its annoying to farm for that stuff later when you need it though.
Unless you are running a healer team and desperately need the HP, Echidna isn't going to give much of a return on your exp investment at those levels. If you run a Suzaku team, put it on her. Otherwise, Gigas gets good stat gains and is generally useful. Tyrannos is not a bad choice, but you said you don't run mono red.
Probably had my best set of super runs earlier today. 13 supers and 11 kings in twelve runs. Now to decide where to stuff it all. My lights are still hungry, but the future super golds make me hesitate now. Thinking about boosting my 2/4/2 reds or maybe Hera-Ur, but nothing really benefits what I usually run these days.
witchedwiz
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Well i lovemy tamadra (8 atm), but some exp fonder would be great too...
And some rem luck at next godfeast!
witchedwiz
Member
Buffa are good, with i had a persephone... I have ares,apollo,Ermes and all those elementals so.. Okay!
BladeoftheImmortal
Member
What are the elementals new leader skills? Do they get an extra buff to anything? Shaitan might not be such a shitty pull any more. Except his active which doesn't have much use.
BladeoftheImmortal
Member
darn.
BladeoftheImmortal
Member
New monster box. What can I get rid of or what should i keep?
i am working on leveling up my homura and gigas right now. i thought about feeding the noel dragon to my ancient dragon. but that may be not so good. i rarely use it now. maybe i hould try a 4/2/2 team more, i usally go for 2/4/2. my problem is i still dont know how to build strong teams. or whem to sub one for another.
edit: valk is at level 46.
BladeoftheImmortal
Member
ok. last time i asked people said to worry about my monored first and then my other ones.
Grab a CoC archer and healer this week. They are okay for red and healer teams respectively when you don't have their REM equivalents. Eventually you will want to drop the demons, ninja, and chimera. They don't have much place on a serious team outside gimmick builds and can be farmed up if you need them. Team building comes with experience, but generally you want to start with orb changers and a delay/defense, then add special attacks/boosts such as gravity, defense penetration, and type/color damage increasers.
Don't neglect your mono red team, but you already have a siren, a valk and an echidna.
Get yourself this coc healer and a king shynee and clear content you could not clear until now. Valk is GREAT for farming content!
With a Valk team you can easily farm the xp for other teams.
But get this coc healer!
Get yourself this coc healer and a king shynee and clear content you could not clear until now. Valk is GREAT for farming content!
With a Valk team you can easily farm the xp for other teams.
But get this coc healer!
BladeoftheImmortal
Member
where do the healers spawn? i was going for one but i didnt see one in my int, expert, or master runs.
Only because they have tons of Gods to choose from. I assume you're non-IAP like me and I can't count the number of master/legend/descend dungeons I cleared with it. Don't ever feed it.
For example, Ancient Light Dragon legend is a piece of cake with Noel Dragon lead.
BladeoftheImmortal
Member
ancient light dragon has no fire. what team do you use?
I used mono blue, but it works for fire too if you have hera.
There's a sample team with red noel lead here:
http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/mission.asp?m=387
BladeoftheImmortal
Member
i have no hera .
edit: which dungeon does the coc healer spawn in?
i mean difficulty wise. i beat master and didn't see it at all.
.edit: which dungeon does the coc healer spawn in?
i mean difficulty wise. i beat master and didn't see it at all.
Zippedpinhead
Member
i have no hera
edit: which dungeon does the coc healer spawn in?
i mean difficulty wise. i beat master and didn't see it at all.
I've never seen her in the lowest two tiers, but she can appear in any. She is just really rare. I recommend farming the highest one you can safely do to get her. And keep a CoC Archer and skill it up. It's great for mono red as a sub.
Your red team is decent for the weekly dragon dungeons, especially with red Noel as a leader (4x HP and rcv means you tank everything). So I would work on the valk next as you already have most of the pieces ready to go. Just need to level and evo Valk and evo big shynee.
Whoops. That was a post while tired, meant to say 260. I thought you were at 75 box space or something crazy like that? Weren't you doing that for a while? I'll shut up now.