nicoga3000
Saint Nic
I have SO many gold dragons from the last time they showed up. Without 2x king, I may just skip gold dragons today. Pengdras, on the other hand...I need more of them.
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Puzzle & Dragons |OT2| Don't Ask, Just Reroll
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Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
Hey GungHo I was only sort of kidding about needing to make up for lost income
New Valks have attack stance for their new elements.
I think the money train will slowly fade unless Gungho starts to introduce some fresh ideas. New busties every few months and more burst teams is getting boring and people will burn out.
Just reminding everyone that I'm the president of the Raphael club. Lucifers need not apply.
I would love to start a Raphael squad, I'm on board and will make him a priority. Mine has sat at lvl 20ish for a long time because no one runs light teams. Definitely feels like there is some really strong potential with that team. Lets make a push to get light going. We have the resources in this thread.
2x Raphael - Thor, Zeus, Valk, Verche would be beastly.
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
I read about the new JP REM stuff. If that comes to the US, I'll be so happy. The 3* garbage rate feels really high for the cost of pulling.
With the type of luck I've been having in this game, I'm probably going to still roll 3 stars consistently during Godfest.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
Probably going to be a when, not if.
Also actually reading the announcement - new Valks are pure Water/Dark and do not gain a new subattribute until presumably they get Rose.
They're also adding chasers and Dark Lady into PAL and tweaking rates of other garbage PAL pulls.
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
Chasers and Dark Lady??? What are those?
So how many Valks will there be now? Three?
Zippedpinhead
Member
I've got my First Raphael evo'd, and my second Raph (for awakening) is in the works. Zues and Valk in that team are ok, My Thor and Verche are lacking though...
Its japan... Vampire and Sieg lack boobs!
I wish they would remove the 3* monsters from the REM completely. If you are going to give me crap at least give me the evolved 4* versions.
Zippedpinhead
Member
Anyone want to throw up an awesome satan for Zues! I've got a Luci team that may work (Sod Luci, fallen Luci, awoken Hera, awoken Hera-is, d/d hades, with a Luci friend leader) but I kind of want to try the no RCV spike satan team (no stalling)
EDIT: Tried it with Satan team, got severly orb trolled on off timer chimeras, 1 set of three dark orbs, matched it and a ton of blue orbs for a fire chimera, got him down to <20% dual bind. Cascade leaves me with NO dark orbs, and Vamp was a turn away from coming up...
So that's 100 stamina, Tried with the luci/Luci/Luci team, got to chimeras and could not out heal their attacks. Screwed up and only had two of the three gravities ready, the third would have let me one shot one of the chimeras I think.
EDIT: Tried it with Satan team, got severly orb trolled on off timer chimeras, 1 set of three dark orbs, matched it and a ton of blue orbs for a fire chimera, got him down to <20% dual bind. Cascade leaves me with NO dark orbs, and Vamp was a turn away from coming up...
So that's 100 stamina, Tried with the luci/Luci/Luci team, got to chimeras and could not out heal their attacks. Screwed up and only had two of the three gravities ready, the third would have let me one shot one of the chimeras I think.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
I have a feeling the off color Valks are going to become the new Gungtroll due to their color/type incompatibility, lol
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
What's the thought behind a Satan team? With no RCV and no stalling, it sounds a BIT like suicide. Unless I'm missing something.
George Claw M.D.
Member
Probably so people don't send fraudulent mail to other players, pretending to be from GungHo. Just a guess.
Hmm ... 2 new Valks, and they have new skills? So I can't just devolve my second Rose Valk and convert her to one of these new ones... If skills are different, we'll also need new monsters to skill them up, aside from attempting to do it through REM dupe pulls. Unless I'm mistaken and that's not how it's gonna work.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
The new Valks share attack stances with Vamp/Sieg so you can just skill them up the traditional way. Which makes you wonder why they even added the new Valks in the first place.
PG is also claiming they're adding 5* PAL dragons back into the REM, which is a gigantic fuck you to the players.
PG is also claiming they're adding 5* PAL dragons back into the REM, which is a gigantic fuck you to the players.
Collectors will spend a lot of stones to get their hands on them. But as far as "improving the game" they are definitely a waste of space outside of providing some alternate colorations for Horus/Kirin teams (assuming they keep their green subtypes).
What's the thought behind a Satan team? With no RCV and no stalling, it sounds a BIT like suicide. Unless I'm missing something.
I think it's Satan + Satan + Loki + 2x against light = 36x. Stall at stage 2 and use Thanthos + Echidna to get 7 attacks in.
Gotta offset reducing the 3* drop rate somehow. Now noobs can be trolled with 5* dragons.
George Claw M.D.
Member
Interesting. I can see Blue Valk bringing more consistency while not giving up Light damage on Kirin teams. Not really sure where I'd fit a Dark Valk in. But at least Dark Valk is easy to skill-up. I just wondering why GungHo's making 3 versions of her. Might as well go all the way and add a Light/Red version like the Late Bloomer Dragons.
And that does suck about the Rippers being added back to the REM machine. They're most useful to newer players and should stay in the Pal machine.
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
This is pretty smart...I just wish I had the dubs to evo my Thanatos.
I think they realize that Valk is the go to farm team for everyone at this point. So to create some parity, they're introducing different colors so everyone's list isn't 30 yellow valks.
MMBosstones86
Member
instead its 20 yellow, 5 blue, and 5 dark. Which doesn't matter if they have the same leader skill
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
Lazy to an extent. Depending on her stat line, I would argue that multicolored Valks would be in the top 5 best subs in the entire game.
- Echidna - max skilled, she would easily be the #1 sub in the game
- Siren - although she's losing her usefulness with the huge sway towards spike teams
- Hera gravity family - Hera-Is is bonkers good, and the busty Hera in JP is pro with dark/dark...Hades also fits here, but Hera is farmable
- Valk family - see below
- ???? - no idea who goes here, new monsters make this such a wildcard
Valk has really good stats and the benefit of no resistances for her main element. Her down side is that she only works well in a few teams - healer, combo burst, mono-light (lol), and mono-green (which she probably sits wildcard for).
By giving her a dark, fire, and water sub element (or main, not sure how that works yet), she can FINALLY be of use for nearly every team as that 4th sub. If her active also changes based off of her element, that'll be even better. I think once all the details are out, we can make a fair assessment of her.
Personally, I'm excited to see what use she'll have. Worst case, I treat her release the same way I did all the Chinese gods and ignore them.
the_log_ride
Member
Just got a small update pushed to my phone. Only 2 items were loaded.
Tried restarting several times, because I'm missing the character art for Ultimate Ares. Anyone else experiencing the same problem?
Tried restarting several times, because I'm missing the character art for Ultimate Ares. Anyone else experiencing the same problem?
Nope, no update on my end.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
B.Valk starts Wt, becomes Wt/Lt on busty, and has Attack Stance - Water.
D.Valk starts Dk, becomes Dk/Fr on busty, and has Attack Stance - Dark.
Their awakenings change to the obvious Orb Enhance one, but everything else down to stat growths remains the same as regular Valk.
D.Valk starts Dk, becomes Dk/Fr on busty, and has Attack Stance - Dark.
Their awakenings change to the obvious Orb Enhance one, but everything else down to stat growths remains the same as regular Valk.
MMBosstones86
Member
Guess I don't see the point, not sure she'll replace Sig or Duke as heartbreakers for those colors
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
Valk and new Vamp are actually pretty close stat wise - Valk has just under 100 less ATK, ~500 less HP, but ~200 more RCV. It's going to come down to if you prefer HP to RCV.
Lazy to an extent. Depending on her stat line, I would argue that multicolored Valks would be in the top 5 best subs in the entire game.
- Echidna - max skilled, she would easily be the #1 sub in the game
- Siren - although she's losing her usefulness with the huge sway towards spike teams
- Hera gravity family - Hera-Is is bonkers good, and the busty Hera in JP is pro with dark/dark...Hades also fits here, but Hera is farmable
- Valk family - see below
- ???? - no idea who goes here, new monsters make this such a wildcard
Valk has really good stats and the benefit of no resistances for her main element. Her down side is that she only works well in a few teams - healer, combo burst, mono-light (lol), and mono-green (which she probably sits wildcard for).
By giving her a dark, fire, and water sub element (or main, not sure how that works yet), she can FINALLY be of use for nearly every team as that 4th sub. If her active also changes based off of her element, that'll be even better. I think once all the details are out, we can make a fair assessment of her.
Personally, I'm excited to see what use she'll have. Worst case, I treat her release the same way I did all the Chinese gods and ignore them.
Stats look the same, too. The ultimates are blue/light and dark/red. Active is heartbreak to main color for each.
Blue healer team is possible, but not ideal since you still take Echidna and Shynee. Also suffers from resisted element.
Dark healer team...haha, no.
As for mono colors, just use the Vamp/Siegfried you already have. Vamp stats are fine and he at least fits devil teams. And it's not like any straight blue team needs more RCV.
They will probably find uses on color requirement teams, but there's already lots of options there. Disappointed that they could have made these with more interesting subtypes or leader skills.
The more common strategy I'm seeing is to pop Echidna at the chimeras to finish stalling for turns. Then use a King Baddie and Orb changer to one shot zeus.
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
Yeah, she's a luxury monster for sure. I half wonder if the reason they don't give her a sub-type is to avoid making her a REQUIRED sub (similar to Echidna, although her lack of sub-type is offset by her ridiculously good active).
Yeah that works too. Since my Satan is rather low level so after research I went with Haku/Devil team instead.
Lazy to an extent. Depending on her stat line, I would argue that multicolored Valks would be in the top 5 best subs in the entire game.
- Echidna - max skilled, she would easily be the #1 sub in the game
- Siren - although she's losing her usefulness with the huge sway towards spike teams
- Hera gravity family - Hera-Is is bonkers good, and the busty Hera in JP is pro with dark/dark...Hades also fits here, but Hera is farmable
- Valk family - see below
- ???? - no idea who goes here, new monsters make this such a wildcard
Valk has really good stats and the benefit of no resistances for her main element. Her down side is that she only works well in a few teams - healer, combo burst, mono-light (lol), and mono-green (which she probably sits wildcard for).
By giving her a dark, fire, and water sub element (or main, not sure how that works yet), she can FINALLY be of use for nearly every team as that 4th sub. If her active also changes based off of her element, that'll be even better. I think once all the details are out, we can make a fair assessment of her.
Personally, I'm excited to see what use she'll have. Worst case, I treat her release the same way I did all the Chinese gods and ignore them.
My point is they should be creating new and unique changes to the game. With the Billions they are raking in, they couldn't even give her new artwork? Just lazy and boring.
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
I definitely don't disagree with you, haha.
MMBosstones86
Member
completely agree with you.
Got my final ripper evolved thanks to plenty of Dragon Plans dropping today. Now I just have to get it up to level 25ish, and I'll be set.
I'm still about 9 team cost away from being able to field them all at the same time, but just having 3 in a team has let me breeze through dungeons that were difficult before. Starting to save up 10 stones for the next GodFest, woot woot.
Should I be looking to farm something out (I'm thinking Siren since her healing is awesome), or keep pushing forward through the dungeons?
I'm still about 9 team cost away from being able to field them all at the same time, but just having 3 in a team has let me breeze through dungeons that were difficult before. Starting to save up 10 stones for the next GodFest, woot woot.
Should I be looking to farm something out (I'm thinking Siren since her healing is awesome), or keep pushing forward through the dungeons?
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
I want them to do a Cataclysm / Big Bang / ARR style overhaul sometime in the next year where they actually balance the colors against archetypes. The primary obstacle is that I could see a flying column of whales emerge from the ocean and descend upon GungHo headquarters because of it.
MMBosstones86
Member
i either need a 2x skill up or 2x drop on plants, because holy bad luck today. I'm at about 2 per 3 runs.
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
Siren and Naga are the monsters you want to farm, but both of them will make your soul hurt. You're better off pushing forward to open Tower of Giants so you can farm ranks during 1/2 stam on weekends (I know nothing of your current rank/progress, so forgive me if you've already got that).
I'm Rank 64 right now, my last fully completed normal dungeon was Tower of Flare.
Didn't know that Tower of Giants was considered a rank farm location, though. Good to know.
(How's my ranking compare to my progress? Probably low, since I tend to be terrible at team building, and have mostly been pushing forward through sheer force)
MMBosstones86
Member
Played around with a REM simulator on PAD DB. Here's what $100 gets you:
Never roll outside of godfest and pay money to support the game not chasing a monster.
I happen to think the REM Simulator isn't so spot on.
3 pulls of Batman : 2 D/W and one D/D
1 pull of REM : Lucy