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Puzzle & Dragons |OT2| Don't Ask, Just Reroll
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Well I've only gotten 1 pierdra to even drop in around 10 runs so I'd say yup lol
witchedwiz
Member
Godinmax awoken friend
cdd/dj/neptune lead
Max skilled siren (Max awoken),
rk(or susanoo) for mitigation,
poison user if you used dj/cdd , else lucifer
Gravity
If you have 2x autoheal (Godin siren) you just Need to do One hearth match per turn to survive hera and stall for gravity/ms..
Hades is heal and stall and you have enough turn to heal with 2 match of heart and 4 random match (autoheal) to heal to full.
Neptune insta dies to poison.
Ceres, minerva and venus faceroll.
silliest thing is early floor but if you have a decent team like this..
http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/simulator.asp?q=391.70.1.0.0.0.0..202.70.1.0.0.0.3..597.70.1.0.0.0.0..629.70.1.0.0.0.0..321.1.1.0.0.0.0..363.99.1.0.0.0.5..
you can faceroll early floor, faceroll boss..
normally with a resist/godin team it's a grindfeast, but with morning star and gravity (on top of poison that is required) you can pretty much just /lol everything...
Personally I'd take echidnaover rk but it's up to you, you just need three solutions (godin, resist lead and either dmgsoak or turn wait from echidna) so that hera binds can at worst hinder you for a bit..
if it takes both lead, with rk you last three turns easily, with echidna you just ignore the bind and wait three turns.. if it takes one lead and another random monster, the damage reduction from one lead is enough so that you can survive the remaining bind turn
So yeah that's that......
REALLY fast and surprisingly easy
witchedwiz
Member
witchedwiz
Member
small question from me regarding tomorrow hera-ur!
this lineup:
hera-ur --> i should be able to tackle mythical with monored (ares, homura, siren, gigas, freyr friend and last sub slot either a drall for orb conversion or an horus for orb enhancement..) or with a resist team (flare drall, hera, hera, keeper of dark, siren, luci friend)
gaf team?
this lineup:
hera-ur --> i should be able to tackle mythical with monored (ares, homura, siren, gigas, freyr friend and last sub slot either a drall for orb conversion or an horus for orb enhancement..) or with a resist team (flare drall, hera, hera, keeper of dark, siren, luci friend)
gaf team?
I beat Hera-Ur on Legend with this team back in September. Cost me 3 stones, 1 when my Ares was bound and cut my hp in half and 2 due to lack of hearts.
My team's attack was not enough to one shot Hera-Ur even with Goemon + Horus + Freyr. Luckily I got 2 free turns to finish her since she used her status guard and then "gathering magical power".
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
Oh yeah shit now I remember what happened last time I attempted Hera-Ur. I had too much attack power on my team so she started unleashing magical power before Lucicannon could charge up :lol
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
Godinmax awoken friend
cdd/dj/neptune lead
Max skilled siren (Max awoken),
rk(or susanoo) for mitigation,
poison user if you used dj/cdd , else lucifer
Gravity
If you have 2x autoheal (Godin siren) you just Need to do One hearth match per turn to survive hera and stall for gravity/ms..
Hades is heal and stall and you have enough turn to heal with 2 match of heart and 4 random match (autoheal) to heal to full.
Neptune insta dies to poison.
Ceres, minerva and venus faceroll.
silliest thing is early floor but if you have a decent team like this..
http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/simulator.asp?q=391.70.1.0.0.0.0..202.70.1.0.0.0.3..597.70.1.0.0.0.0..629.70.1.0.0.0.0..321.1.1.0.0.0.0..363.99.1.0.0.0.5..
you can faceroll early floor, faceroll boss..
normally with a resist/godin team it's a grindfeast, but with morning star and gravity (on top of poison that is required) you can pretty much just /lol everything...
Personally I'd take echidnaover rk but it's up to you, you just need three solutions (godin, resist lead and either dmgsoak or turn wait from echidna) so that hera binds can at worst hinder you for a bit..
if it takes both lead, with rk you last three turns easily, with echidna you just ignore the bind and wait three turns.. if it takes one lead and another random monster, the damage reduction from one lead is enough so that you can survive the remaining bind turn
So yeah that's that......
REALLY fast and surprisingly easy
I have 4 Tamadra to use. I could finish GrOdin awakening, or I could put 2 on Bastet for orb extension and use the other 2 for something else...I have auto-heal on my Ceres already. So GrOdin/GrOdin + Ceres = 1500 auto-heal. It's definitely super easy. The problem would still be time (and finding enough GrOdin to use since most people seem to run Valk anymore).
the_log_ride
Member
Gonna need all the burst you can get for Hera-Ur.
Here is the team I ran. 0-stoned Legend difficulty.
Also, when does Minerva dark bind? I wanna make sure not to fall into that trap when I run this again with my newly bustied Ares friends.
edit: here's the info from puzzledragonx.com
Dark Bind ( 2-4 Turns )
< 50% HP, 100% Chance, 1 time-use
Disable all dark attribute pets for 2-4 turns. This will also disable leader skills...
And for JP players: WHY CAN'T I HOLD ALL THESE TAMADRAS? And nice, three free stones for a delay yesterday!
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
I was gonna fully awaken Bastet and Yomi with all these free Tamadra... then I realized I never use either in any of my teams. Now I am stuck trying to figure out who to awaken once again.
witchedwiz
Member
sigh :X
Oh well i'll try..
Filler slot, drall for orb or horus for enhancement?
3 stones is good enough for me for hera ur btw, considering i'll move her in my main line up..
when she is properly levelled i'll either sub in goemon and kick gigas or dunno :X
witchedwiz
Member
static has a max skilled max level max awaken godin..
double godin
ceres
rk
1heal orb generator (siren max skilled...)
2 slot for whatever you want..
you REALLY need 1 poison to make a quick work on neptune, but if you want to do the long way, you can do with 2xgodin and just lolautheal +1combo
last slot 1 gravity, to shorten hera fight
my pref lineup is as i said
neptune poison
rk
siren
gravity
lolcannon luci
godin
burst, gravity, poison, active dmg, heart generation, triple defensive possiblity for hera bind
witchedwiz
Member
funny thing..
of your team what i lack is goemon, i have everything else... well i have a ares, but i can get a freyr friend
difference is monster levels XD
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
static has a max skilled max level max awaken godin..
double godin
ceres
rk
1heal orb generator (siren max skilled...)
2 slot for whatever you want..
you REALLY need 1 poison to make a quick work on neptune, but if you want to do the long way, you can do with 2xgodin and just lolautheal +1combo
last slot 1 gravity, to shorten hera fight
my pref lineup is as i said
neptune poison
rk
siren
gravity
lolcannon luci
godin
burst, gravity, poison, active dmg, heart generation, triple defensive possiblity for hera bind
Yeah, I've just always gone burst route for Hera, so I'm trying to think if it's even worth it. I could probably make quick work of her with Kirin, but that requires me to think about combos. I think I was 3/5 with my Valk team last time, so with Angelion and Bastet now, it will be even easier as I'll be able to take a hit from anyone but Neptune and Hades (and Neptune is easy with 9x burst). I may just do that since my team is better than last time.
Izanami skills are out!
Liza LS: Max HP is halved, all balance monsters' attack x4
Liza AS: All damage received within 1 turn decreased by 30% 4/11 max CD
Diza LS: Max HP is halved, all physical monsters' attack x4
Diza AS: All damage received within 3 turns decreased by 30% 6/13 max CD
Keep in mind, if you go double izanami your 20k life is only 5k... You don't want to catch preemptive strikes with her... But for farming its a cheap 16x multi!
Liza LS: Max HP is halved, all balance monsters' attack x4
Liza AS: All damage received within 1 turn decreased by 30% 4/11 max CD
Diza LS: Max HP is halved, all physical monsters' attack x4
Diza AS: All damage received within 3 turns decreased by 30% 6/13 max CD
Keep in mind, if you go double izanami your 20k life is only 5k... You don't want to catch preemptive strikes with her... But for farming its a cheap 16x multi!
witchedwiz
Member
welp paint me mindfucked..
floor1 small dragonx3, 1 tamadra.. tamadra get
floor2 king dragon invade, 1 small dragon... king get
floor3 smallx4.. small get
floor4 kingx... king get
floor5 high king, 2 small.. high king get..
either tomorrow i die, or i'm gonna get in a serious car accident....
gotta balance dat luck!
floor1 small dragonx3, 1 tamadra.. tamadra get
floor2 king dragon invade, 1 small dragon... king get
floor3 smallx4.. small get
floor4 kingx... king get
floor5 high king, 2 small.. high king get..
either tomorrow i die, or i'm gonna get in a serious car accident....
gotta balance dat luck!
I was misinterpreting the skill at first, I thought it was another leader skill where your HP has to be above a certain amount. So both Izanami's cut your HP in half as soon as you enter the dungeon, but does it cut your max HP in half, or just the amount of HP you currently have in half?
But that's a very nice leader skill despite the penalty (better than the above/below HP ones). I think the Physical one will have a little less trouble with that leader skill since they tend to have much more HP anyway, and Balanced might not be so bad either.
Septimus Prime
Member
Might be good to have Tengu on that team, too, to make a quick Resolve team when necessary.
Septimus Prime
Member
Well, assuming you have another Izanami in tow, you'll still be working with half-HP (as opposed to quarter-HP), so it's still better than nothing.
You definitely want the highest difficulty. Besides the fact that it has a higher drop rate, the Neptune birds can drop fully evolved on the mini boss floors.
You should always run the highest difficulty you can outside of x2 days where running a lower difficulty isn't so bad in terms of drop rate. Poring Tower was a different case because the monster mobs in the master level had demons mixed in, so even if it was a much higher drop rate, you could end up with demons instead of the skill up monsters you wanted. Also the lower level had evolved slimes, which were skill ups for other monsters like Titan and Vampire.
the_log_ride
Member
Oh Poring. We're never gonna see that dungeon again, are we?
atlantaguy
Member
The Odin setup for Hera is fine and it's definitely safe, but it certainly is a grind. If you're planning on picking up more than a few it probably won't be the best option. The Valk team is good too but can require a bit of luck on the orbs. A Horus or Kirin setup with Echidna, Orochi, Cu Chu, Valk is pretty safe and only takes about 5 minutes. Otherwise a bunch of Gravity would probably be doable if you don't have Orochi. Something like Hera, Hera-Is, Echidna, Cu Chu (assuming one leader is Kirin) or Valk (if you're using two Horus) would get Hera's health way down and give you 4 or 5 turns to kill since you can survive and hopefully heal a hit from Hera.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
So with Izanami I think that means we'll start seeing 0.5/12/1 teams
witchedwiz
Member
eh, i've run 20 time pierdra (runnig the 21th right now) and i just had 3 drops..
i mean, ok it's rare and all, but cmon...
Woh! That's harsh!
5 Tamadra drops & at least 3 times that sighted between today & yesterday.
I stone my 114 stamina once or twice these days.
Yeah, it's painful. :/
On the upside I got the masks from the Wednesday dungeon I need to upgrade a few of my monsters today, now I just need to wait until Friday for Dub-mythlit [good luck with that!].
Until then, I will repeatedly run this Pierdra dungeon until I get what I need. I was wanting to try Hera on Friday with a max-skilled Drawn Joker as Leader [assuming I get the Dub-mythlit I need] with an Arch Angel Lucifer as a Friend, and Keeper of Rainbow's/Mk. Golem II for Neptune, but now I'm not so sure. ~_~
I still might give it a try and see.
How many times did you run it?
the_log_ride
Member
I cannot wait until the US gets the 6.2 update. So glad GAF has such an active base of players. The free stones aren't too shabby, either.
witchedwiz
Member
yeah but we'll have to take rotations..
because 5x valk team won't be exciting to play, so someone will have to saddle dat maxlevel echidna XD
What would you guys suggest for Hera Ur tomorrow - Asta + luci or Loki/Pers + Luci? My Monored isn't high enough level to be able to burst her done.
If I use Asta, should I go for 3 gravity or 2 gravity + counter + Pierda? Or is one counter sufficient for grind through the first few levels?
If I use Asta, should I go for 3 gravity or 2 gravity + counter + Pierda? Or is one counter sufficient for grind through the first few levels?
witchedwiz
Member
definitely bring pierdra..
or even a siren if it's max skilled..
sure you diminish hp/rcv but frankly with 2.5k rcv you can heal a LOT with a decent combo, so a good heart maker is better
if you can, go dual asta, but be prepared to nuke her down from 30% to zero, because of her graviton (25% should be the percentage she starts doing that)..
I already envision nightmare of me failing to get the clear amount and get fucked to oblivion...
the pure amount of joy....
anyway i'd go with 2 gravity, + counter....
I only have 54 Stamina so probably 20+ times? I've gotten pretty lucky with the drops actually, just not the skill-ups. >_<
I've gotten two Piedras, and no skill ups, so you're ahead of me at least.
On the flip side, my Hellray Harpie Demon is now at 15 turns per Bomb, thanks to that dungeon. So, hard to hate on it too much.
Haha, true. I'm skilling-up my Blood Demon as well. Unfortunately the game seems to favor him over Pierdraw, but perhaps that has to do with the increased number I feed [more than likely this is it].
I will not give up!
Septimus Prime
Member
Pierdra is the new Scarlet Snake Princess.
Speaking of, I still need that dungeon to return. I desperately need her for my Kirin team.
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
Ha - truth. At least DJ isn't as clutch as Echidna.
Septimus Prime
Member
Between max skill or near-max skill Siren, Parvati, Angelion, Megalodran, and Fortoytops, (and Amaterasu; shit, why not?) I should be good on heart makers.
And yet I must max skill Pierdra. Stupid game. =(
And yet I must max skill Pierdra. Stupid game. =(
Zippedpinhead
Member
Need to burn stamina with a level up really close, anyone want to throw up a Luci so I can run birds gold?
Zippedpinhead
Member
Invite sent, too many valks on the list today, great for pierdra, poor for birds