It's definitely not perfectly crisp but its decent. You can't really expect much with GungHo.
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It's definitely not perfectly crisp but its decent. You can't really expect much with GungHo.
This is a very very scary moment for this game:
http://youtu.be/uLm6UGvVPYA
The card is juggler from final Fantasy collab and gives a 7x multiplier for matching 2 sets of hearts.
http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=1901
In glad that this final Fantasy crystal defenders collab is never going to make it over to us after watching that video.
I have no clue what gungho was thinking making a character that easy and strong. It is flat out over powered and game breaking. The power creep they will have to implement to balance this character could make a lot of other teams useless.
Having a card like this makes the whole game trivial. I wouldn't even want to play anymore.
Edit: here they are demolishing the new endless corridors. One shots every boss in the hardest dungeon in the game. Good call gungho.
http://youtu.be/XiOLHKxDXeQ
http://youtu.be/uLm6UGvVPYA
The card is juggler from final Fantasy collab and gives a 7x multiplier for matching 2 sets of hearts.
http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=1901
In glad that this final Fantasy crystal defenders collab is never going to make it over to us after watching that video.
I have no clue what gungho was thinking making a character that easy and strong. It is flat out over powered and game breaking. The power creep they will have to implement to balance this character could make a lot of other teams useless.
Having a card like this makes the whole game trivial. I wouldn't even want to play anymore.
Edit: here they are demolishing the new endless corridors. One shots every boss in the hardest dungeon in the game. Good call gungho.
http://youtu.be/XiOLHKxDXeQ
atlantaguy
Member
Yeah I'm pretty sure they need to just nerf the Juggler. It's not something Gungho has a history of doing, but I think this card deserves it. Those teams are putting out millions of damage per turn with hardly more effort than an Athena team.
Dont see the big issue since this isnt a PvP game.
I mean lets be honest if you are a whale and spend a ton of time with the game you will have a bunch of broken teams. Whole squad +297 with the best REM exclusives and many dungeons are easy. Some of the most popular and strongest teams are quite easy to play.
I would be shocked if you couldnt "steamroll" most dungeons when you are nearly Rank 1000 and spend thousand of dollars on the game - i mean otherwise those dungeons would be just impossible for non heavy iAP users.
I mean lets be honest if you are a whale and spend a ton of time with the game you will have a bunch of broken teams. Whole squad +297 with the best REM exclusives and many dungeons are easy. Some of the most popular and strongest teams are quite easy to play.
I would be shocked if you couldnt "steamroll" most dungeons when you are nearly Rank 1000 and spend thousand of dollars on the game - i mean otherwise those dungeons would be just impossible for non heavy iAP users.
Yes the Juggler is definitely OP. I don't know what Gungho was thinking. Two combo of hearts (+ one other combo for giving damage) is super easy to do. Especially with heart+color orb changer such as Hero God or Angels.
They can't nerf it though because many people already spent a lot just trying to get that card.
They can't nerf it though because many people already spent a lot just trying to get that card.
First one is Devil Rush, a Legend plus dungeon. He one shots the fat metal with 1.5 million armor.
The second is the new Endless. Zaerog and Sonia Gran have super high HP. He doesn't one shot them because Zaerog absorbs dark at first and Sonia Gran revives when killed above 50%. She also has a 50% light/dark shield.
Bonkers.
The second is the new Endless. Zaerog and Sonia Gran have super high HP. He doesn't one shot them because Zaerog absorbs dark at first and Sonia Gran revives when killed above 50%. She also has a 50% light/dark shield.
Bonkers.
The example being run is extreme with 4 Pandoras but they're far from required. You can have double drawn joker and CDK and still see a huge amount of success.There are tons of cards that will activate this leader skill.
I see this comment a lot but don't agree. If people, especially whales are obtaining cards like this and making the game trivial they get bored and stop playing because the challenge is gone. So Gungho has to create new content designed to stop these OP teams and keept the whales swimming. This trickles down to every other team and card in the game. What can they do to stop this type of mechanic, block dark attacks? Now every other dark team is screwed. It's a slippery slope and I really don't like it.
That LS is insanely easy to activate even without an active skill. Double drawn joker max skill with any of the dozens of dark mobs with Row enhance or TPA in the other slot and you crush everything. The 49x active on it's own is enough to crush almost everything, you dont even need tpa/RE.
Compare this to Horus or Kirin who are difficult to activate, requiring at least 5 combos and do a 1/3 of the damage that Juggler does with three matches. If I'm a new player and pull this card, I'd never have played this long. The fun I had with this game and the reason I played so long was the slow climb and the feeling of accomplishment from clearing new content, slowly climbing and improving.
Final Point and I'll stop ranting. This clearly seems like someone screwed up. Maybe they meant to make it a 3x attack and someone made a typo. I mean for all of the characters to make OP, why would you choose a random mob from a crap game? Juggler?
Ronia was bad enough, this is just game breaking. Very sad day for PAD.
Drawn Joker and CDK both change light orbs so you can't use them together. To one shot these bosses you need to make heart orbs and attack orbs at the same time. That means Heroes or Angels. You still need heavily plussed teams and orb matching skills because you have to stall until your actives are up and there is no hp or rcv multiplier. You are also vulnerable to jammers, poison, and bosses changing your heart orbs until the Juggler actives are ready. It's not that easy for the average player.
Edit. What's wrong with Ronia? She has great recovery but her atk is not overpowered without Lu Bu/King Baddie.
Edit. What's wrong with Ronia? She has great recovery but her atk is not overpowered without Lu Bu/King Baddie.
CornBurrito
Member
You're a teacher colinp?
Yeah, my mistake on CDK/DJ combo. I was ranting but still doesn't change the opinion. There are a lot of cards you can put in those last two spots and make the team extremely OP. Having 6 hearts and 1 or 2 combos of dark is just way too easy to do in my opinion. It's early and this is a knee jerk reaction to seeing the card in action but 49x is insane.
Think about how hard RA is to activate and he doesn't even get to use the benefit of TPA or RE because of the requirements and isn't Mono Dark and bind immune.
The comment about Ronia was more of a community opinion, she makes a lot of content trivial just by having her. She was the #1 card in the game up until this point.
CornBurrito
Member
Wee Jas gives 6 hearts exactly. Though he isn't dark type 
Little Green Yoda
Member
I agree with everything in this post.
I've seen several people mention this, but I highly doubt Juggler gets changed or nerfed. All the JP whales (and most others) are pulling for this card now. GungHo would have to refund every pull on the collab machine and that still wouldn't cover the issue. Players would quit, especially the most lucrative ones.
Juggler is here to stay (in JP, lol NA, enjoy the after effects with none of the benefit).
Juggler is here to stay (in JP, lol NA, enjoy the after effects with none of the benefit).
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
Remember the fallout from how badly AA Luci warped the meta, when F2P goes horribly wrong
CornBurrito
Member
Thing is that for a lot of content you won't need that crazy damage. The guy's outputting several million each turn. In many descends you really only need 1-2 million for some floors, and then a bit more for the boss.
It also seems odd that some random collab monster is stronger than a lot of Special Gods. Like this this seems significantly better than Kali. Or any other "match x for y multiplier" god. Is Juggler one of those gold eggs like Wetatron where it's a 1% chance?
Extreme King Metal Dragon is back tomorrow - i shall have my revenge
@J0dy77
I get your point, lets see how this "fiasco" plays out. I am not worried at this point, no matter what follows next i doubt that Gung Ho will introduce any changes to screw all regular players just to appease a couple whales. If they do...well they are enough other interesting games to play - their loss.
@J0dy77
I get your point, lets see how this "fiasco" plays out. I am not worried at this point, no matter what follows next i doubt that Gung Ho will introduce any changes to screw all regular players just to appease a couple whales. If they do...well they are enough other interesting games to play - their loss.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
Well, from precedent, every other time they wanted the metagame the following happened:
AA Luci: the game sucked for a while with all those descendeds with high HP and high damage
Killua: they added 4th awakenings to every REM god, net positive
Row awakenings: we got Wadatsumi and that's about it
Ronia: combo challenges
AA Luci: the game sucked for a while with all those descendeds with high HP and high damage
Killua: they added 4th awakenings to every REM god, net positive
Row awakenings: we got Wadatsumi and that's about it
Ronia: combo challenges
Yep, JHSs in Japan.
Extreme King Metal Dragon is back tomorrow - i shall have my revenge
@J0dy77
I get your point, lets see how this "fiasco" plays out. I am not worried at this point, no matter what follows next i doubt that Gung Ho will introduce any changes to screw all regular players just to appease a couple whales. If they do...well they are enough other interesting games to play - their loss.
Its been shown a few times that 0.15% of players (15/10000) generate almost 50% of freemium/iap revenue.
you better believe the game is designed to cater to the whales.
edit: full disclosure - I'd roll for it.
atlantaguy
Member
I'm gonna have to level up with extreme kings if I want to do more than one run. It's not worth wasting 70 stamina per stone. If only there were some kind of mechanic that kept all that extra stamina from being wasted...
Little Green Yoda
Member
We still haven't gotten the increased PAL pt update yet. Stamina overflow could happen in the latter half of the year at this rate :lol
Ahahaha, you guys are nuts!
If you want me to pick you up japanese iTunes cards let me know.
Are they for the same quantity over there in terms of price?
The yen-dollar changes everyday if that's what you mean.
When I sell itunes or PSN cards I keep it at 1:100, so for a 3000 yen iTunes card i ask for $30. Depending on the exchange rate I either do well or poorly, but I keep it at that (mostly because I turn around and use that money for US iTunes, PSN or eshop cards).
I have no idea what the price of stones in game is though.
When re rolling, Is there a way to delete data048.bin file without connecting to pc?
www.reddit.com/r/PuzzleAndDragons/comments/2u53db/tip_how_to_create_a_japanese_itunes_account/
Create a jpn iTunes accnt and download the jpn version of game
www.reddit.com/r/PuzzleAndDragons/comments/2u53db/tip_how_to_create_a_japanese_itunes_account/
Little Green Yoda
Member
No more invades in legend descends? Wonder how much the mythical invade rate is buffed by?
So about those mini 3K gods...
Zippedpinhead
Member
Mini 3k in the second part? After I have time to get to 50 pal pulls thanks to the descended challenges?
Awesome...
I'm going to have so many pii's thanks to challenge descended...
Awesome...
I'm going to have so many pii's thanks to challenge descended...
This is new. Not even in JP as far as I'm aware. Interesting, but now I don't know the rate increase and if it's worth stoning for.
Also, 5x tech.
And they go to PAX East but not South? I see how it is...
Me and my friends have fed countless Yatagarasus. Not. A. Single. Skillup. Anecdotally speaking it's pretty much certain it has some incredibly reduced skillup rate compared to everything else. Might as well farm piis.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
Well, it was how the orb invades were initially, so technically it's now new :V
Ten piis is like 50 stones as a super low estimate. I know there's not a lot of worthy light cards, but there's got to be something coming that's a better investment. I guess if you absolutely have to have her.
Should get TsuXna in here to give an opinion since he maxed his.
Yeah, true. But I don't think they reduced rates in mythical when the legend invades were introduced? So the rate up is what catches my eye. Is it better than the 1.5x, basically.