atlantaguy
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SS Isis destroyed Challenge Level 8. Its basically a safe version of my U&Y team, since Isis resists all the leader binds.
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Puzzle & Dragons |OT3| Come for the rolls, stay for the trolls
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Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
Yes, as long as you are rank 60 or higher (seems like a typo, might just be you can't access the shop until rank 60). You get MP along with whatever amount of money selling the monster would give.
Some MP stats:
6* exclusives - 50k
5* exclusives - 15k (big drop here, boo)
gold eggs - 5k
some higher rarity gold eggs (collab) - 15k?
silver eggs (collab or normal REM) - 3k
Descend bosses (and Zaerog) - 10
Literally everything else - 1
You still earn normal gold when sold, MP earned is shown below it. Don't need to evolve anything. Using low stamina or other trash farming could be a decent return with enough effort?
Also, NA might benefit from farming late bloomer dragons now? They sell for 3k, since they're REM silvers. Hmm. Fruit dragons are also 3k, but those aren't really farmable outside the gift dungeon.
Max skill Sumire in 20 fruit feeds. Needs awakenings so I can use her.
6* exclusives - 50k
5* exclusives - 15k (big drop here, boo)
gold eggs - 5k
some higher rarity gold eggs (collab) - 15k?
silver eggs (collab or normal REM) - 3k
Descend bosses (and Zaerog) - 10
Literally everything else - 1
You still earn normal gold when sold, MP earned is shown below it. Don't need to evolve anything. Using low stamina or other trash farming could be a decent return with enough effort?
Also, NA might benefit from farming late bloomer dragons now? They sell for 3k, since they're REM silvers. Hmm. Fruit dragons are also 3k, but those aren't really farmable outside the gift dungeon.
Max skill Sumire in 20 fruit feeds. Needs awakenings so I can use her.
Descend bosses are only worth 10? Hahahaha. This truly is a whale only system right now. I'm totally going to ignore it outside of the presdras I get from other stuff. It's not worth the stress or hassle as a low IAP player.
Selling trash monsters might eventually add up to some evo mats, though. I've definitely sold a ton of trash over the course of my time with the game. You won't be farming guys to grab a Pii, but some useful side benefits. 10 trash silvers for a Pii also isn't a bad exchange rate either.
Farming late bloomers actually sounds like a descent idea. You might at least get a couple Piis out of it. Anyone got an idea of the best drop stam ratio dungeon for one of those would be?
Selling trash monsters might eventually add up to some evo mats, though. I've definitely sold a ton of trash over the course of my time with the game. You won't be farming guys to grab a Pii, but some useful side benefits. 10 trash silvers for a Pii also isn't a bad exchange rate either.
Farming late bloomers actually sounds like a descent idea. You might at least get a couple Piis out of it. Anyone got an idea of the best drop stam ratio dungeon for one of those would be?
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
It's a great catchup mechanic for beginners. Troll silvers, currently the worst possible prize from the REM, can be traded for 3k points, which is exactly how much a mythical evo mat costs in the store. You don't need to play through Friday mythical ever again.
Actually, that's totally true. Right now I feel like the mythical mat hump is probably the biggest progress gate in the game right now assuming you get a good starting roll. I would've killed to sell a golem, healer girl or some shit to get the mats I needed.
CornBurrito
Member
Aren't late bloomer drops being removed from dungeons? I read that on padx pretty sure.
As jewels get rarer, their value rises. As for Mythical mats for 3k, it mainly helps new players. It took forever for me to be able to even clear those dungeons and the rates on the PAL machines for them are still pretty shit.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
Did this just happen in JP? I got a Divinegon drop from... somewhere just a few weeks ago.
I just saw it announced like this week or so. Not sure if it was effective immediately, but I'm guess it probably was.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
Well I ended up courtesy rolling an Asmo=Deus. Wonder if she's a viable leader.
How about pem 3k silvers? Are they also worth 3k?
Also the real game changer here IMO is 3k silvers. I'm pretty sure most of us, if you played over a year you have 20+ useless silvers. For hoarders and 2 years like me? 50+.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
3k MP only applies to REM exclusive silvers it seems.
atlantaguy
Member
Still not sure what to do with mine. I've put her on the back burner for now. I tried skilling her up, but got no drops in 3 days.
Tried 3k PEM cards which I think are silver, they sell for 1 MP.
It's kind of a joke that gold eggs are only 5k compared to silver, but I guess they cost 5 stones either way. I'm sad that it took them so long to put in such a weak system to handle dupes. My hard rolling days are far behind me now, but I would have earned a lot of MP back then.
thinking about how many I've fed for possible skill ups, its definitely annoying, and it seems the items you can buy are ridiculously expensive at this point.
granted - its minimally better than nothing, but I'm not sue I'd even sell my dupes at this point with the changes and refreshes that occur - never know when you can put a different team together.
I suppose none of us are really the aim for this system. It's more for the people that roll thousands every Godfest.
It does feel like just the minimum they could do, especially when some other games have started introducing trade back systems. PAD seems to have a more generous REM than most, though. MP exclusive cards is sort of a half measure towards that anyway.
Like all new PAD features, it's being released half baked and without enough development. It will probably change significantly in the months to come. $5 evo mats is totally LOL.
It does feel like just the minimum they could do, especially when some other games have started introducing trade back systems. PAD seems to have a more generous REM than most, though. MP exclusive cards is sort of a half measure towards that anyway.
Like all new PAD features, it's being released half baked and without enough development. It will probably change significantly in the months to come. $5 evo mats is totally LOL.
George Claw M.D.
Member
Maybe late to answer, but my only Dark monster was DKali, so I put her in slot 2 so she deals her damage second after my leader Ra, then everyone else hits after. To deal with the shield, I subbed in Echidna. Pop Echidna so the shield expires and Zaerog doesn't get a turn to reup it.
Little Green Yoda
Member
Dupe Rodins are great for speed farm teams.
It doesn't seem like that would be more worth it than 100k MP.
Adding everything else I don't want in my box besides the Rodin only gives me 60k MP, hah.
Also for anyone thinking of farming Late Bloomers in NA while you can, here's a quote from the PAD forums to convince you that this is a bad idea :
Yeah, I was thinking they were 15% drop rate or something, it's even lower. Although NA probably has like a year before we see this update, so...
If you don't see the value of dupe Rodins, there's no hope for you, haha. First turn Goemon teams? Easy 3x normal or Star Vault farming? Nearly any 5 or 7 turn dungeon becomes push button. I mean, if you don't do what 90% of the endgame is, sure, sell them. Make sure to post pics of it too so all of us without dupes or any can get salty.
If you don't see the value of dupe Rodins, there's no hope for you, haha. First turn Goemon teams? Easy 3x normal or Star Vault farming? Nearly any 5 or 7 turn dungeon becomes push button. I mean, if you don't do what 90% of the endgame is, sure, sell them. Make sure to post pics of it too so all of us without dupes or any can get salty.
I can already first-turn goemon with dupe tomatos.
Farming for plus-eggs plz no.
I mean, it's only faster farming because you can end the floor with Rodin's nuke or am I missing something else? I don't actually understand why he's such a good farming tool and I'd like to know.
Farming for plus-eggs plz no.
I mean, it's only faster farming because you can end the floor with Rodin's nuke or am I missing something else? I don't actually understand why he's such a good farming tool and I'd like to know.
The other thing is even if delay expired, as long as the shield is down the boss will cast that first, buying you another turn.
I also run Yomi Mistress, Izanami, and her dark reduction awakening will prevent the 100% gravity from killing you even without using her skill.
tiltnkirby
Member
Ain't no Hathor but comes with way more swag.
She also doesn't like skilling up.
Day 600 log in hype, can't wait for the MP festa with all my stones.
I wish I had Reine, Blodin and DKali.
The alt valks just hate me. But SS Isis is really an awesome card, there are so many things you can do with her.
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Any consensus on the rare evo machine? I've looked around, but there doesn't seem to be any hard data. 57 pulls atm and wondering if I should blow it ...
tiltnkirby
Member
Save 'em till we get it back.
Thanks! I wasn't sure what the rate differences were, I'll take your advice.
Buster Machine
Member
Yes, it's because of the nuke plus the skill boosts. There's a huge difference between clearing a floor with the push of a button and clearing it with an orb change + making a match when speed farming.
When people say this system is made for whales, they mean it. The value proposition for the stuff in the shop is complete shit, including the latent awakenings. Not much need to contemplate doing something drastic like feeding your only 2 Rodin.
tiltnkirby
Member
I can only give you my side, which seems like: 40% gold keepers, 60% masks. I am not even kidding with that.
I have 3 Rodins, I was planning to keep one.
I'm just trying to be honest with myself, the likely outcome is that I keep never farming Plus eggs and the dupe Rodins rot in my box.
But I'll keep what you guys said in mind.
EDIT : Speaking of grinding, this is the tenth light chaser I feed trying to get the last skill up on my Metatron. I have terrible luck on getting the last skill levels...
Yamato Rush suuucks. Only have that and dumb Zhou Yu left in current JP challenge. Keep dying with my A.Shiva team because I have to sub out a hypermax Minerva for Dark Izanami to tank Goemon preempt. Not sure I'm going to finish this set, but happy with my progress overall.
Just noticed that Shiva Dragon needs 9,999,999 exp to max level. How cute.
Just noticed that Shiva Dragon needs 9,999,999 exp to max level. How cute.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
So the latent awakenings are even worse than expected... auto-heal is 3% of your rcv, and time extend is 0.05 seconds
0.05??
Okay, that's the stuff I wanted, I thought it was 0.25. Now I know I'll keep my dupes.
Memorial Tamadra finally isn't excessive!
And it's base card stats. No extra for having plus eggs. The single stat bonus awakenings are similarly small boosts.
This deal is getting worse all the time.
George Claw M.D.
Member
Hehe. So 30 latent time extends gets you a whopping 1.5 seconds. It really is just for whales who can't help but min/max their teams. No thanks. Though I guess a single resist of each color will let you survive 100% gravities. Maybe they'll continue tweaking the values.
Don't say this too loudly, or else they will make 101% gravity the new standard.
Finally beat Medjedra Descended! Mythical... With Beelzebub/Ronia devil team, I can't die even with skill lock for 99 turns... Spent around 75 turns on Isis then got all my skills back with Osiris. It's all smooth sailing after that. Don't think I'll try the stage unless it's' necessary. 2 Medjedras should be enough and I don't even have Isis or Bastet.
Man, no Medjedra drop... next time I guess.
Missed it too. Beat Legend a couple times with my weird half done Ra team, but about half the time I struck out to Skill Lock. By the time he's back again, I'll be nearly lock immune so that'll work. Should be able to destroy that dungeon at that point.
Do you guys ever have days where you combo like a god like clearing the whole board and getting everything perfectly aligned and then days where you can't even activate Lkali's leader skill?
I had the former for the past few days and I felt like I was actually getting BETTER and then I just had the latter today
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I had the former for the past few days and I felt like I was actually getting BETTER and then I just had the latter today
:|
Happens so often... Still amazed I cleared some of those Mythical Descends with how inconsistent I am...