DenogginizerOS
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Yup. Unless they forgot to put the steam code in the box...StuBurns said:
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RAGE |OT| "It's done when it's done"
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I'm rather surprised everyone's enjoying this so much. I like the game for what it's shown me so far, a shallow fps with an interesting setting and (other than enemies not dying to a bullet to the head and the assault rifle is a piece of shit) combat that's fun because of the weapon choices, but there's not much else to it that I find enjoyable. In a lot of ways, other fps' have done this better. It's no Fallout, and I kind of wish it was.
EvilDick34
Banned
Gvaz said:
I would say im surprised at your Negative review but all you have to do is look at the whole thread and how you shitted on it from the get go.
And your classic double talk aka: " I like the game for what it's shown me so far, a shallow fps....".
Nothing shallow in my opinion about this game. You have your main story, you have tons of sidequests, you have 3 mini games in Wellspring alone, with tons of car races you can do. ALL of your main weapons have at least two different ammo types with some having an option for 3 or more different ammo types. You can trick your car out with armor, spikes, rams, missiles, guns, and at least 6 or 7 different other weapons.
Also, i can headshot enemies just fine, i do it to the Authority troopers every single time, hell there are at least 3 sidequest sniper missions where headshots are essential to winning that quest.
cyen
Member
Im kinda enjoying it, the game has a good pace, the world have plenty to do and the gunplay feels good.
The art direction on this game is amazing, megatexture really pays off in the art department theres some beatiful vista and the world is really well crafted the only downside are the rough textures overall.
The game has the ID vibe in it, sometimes has the old school shooters feeling and im saying this in a good way, im really having fun with the game.
I have to say that the weakest link in this game is the plot, it doesnt make the player care for the cause, they just dump you in the world and say "do this do that" and thats that.
The art direction on this game is amazing, megatexture really pays off in the art department theres some beatiful vista and the world is really well crafted the only downside are the rough textures overall.
The game has the ID vibe in it, sometimes has the old school shooters feeling and im saying this in a good way, im really having fun with the game.
I have to say that the weakest link in this game is the plot, it doesnt make the player care for the cause, they just dump you in the world and say "do this do that" and thats that.
AgentOtaku
Member
EvilDick34 said:
Exactly
The main objective may be shallow IE: shoot da mutants!, but the means to do so is far from it (IF you opt to use those means).
Game is no more shallow than Gears, Vanquish, or any other, and if anything it does possess more depth because of it's subsystems
Remember though kids, RAGE IS NOT AN RPG
AgentOtaku
Member
Solo said:
I know!
3 day weekend for me! (^___^)
plagiarize
Banned
to me, preventing a game from just being 'head shot = death' isn't making it SHALLOW. i enjoy more protracted encounters with enemies personally. also, i don't think something is a bullet sponge if it attempts to cover, and retreat, and what have you.AgentOtaku said:
The Gearhead folks are a little too tough, I think. The shotgun works well enough, but they absorb too many assault rifle bullets; for instance, it takes several shots to the helmet for it to fall off, and another several hits to the head to fell them.
plagiarize
Banned
are you using armour piercing rounds?JaseC said:
plagiarize said:
...I didn't think of that.
Now I feel silly. The standard shotgun is my weapon of choice, so I simply forgot about the alternate ammo types.Edit:
perineumlick
Member
Headshots are seriously borked, at least on Nightmare; not sure about the other difficulties. I shoot a guy's helmet off, he gets back up, he should drop after one headshot, but that's not the case. It takes at least 2 more shots to finish him, which is silly. The Gearheads are pretty lame enemies; in fact I enjoyed fighting against the aggressive, parkour mutants much more than the soldiers laying back behind cover. The first half of the game is definitely the best part; I just wanted it to be over once I got close to the end. Overall a very flawed but fun shooter, nothing that will set the world on fire.
It's not double talk, I like shallow fps games for what they are, all combat and nothing else. Sure there's more than that to rage, but it's not things that interest me.EvilDick34 said:
Okay, well I am also giving my opinion. I feel the main story is shallow, but the premise is sound. The script is where it really shows how awful it is, and I'm not sure how you could think it's good. "Oh unnamed never speaking player, help me with this! You're our only hope!" has gotten exceedingly tired and trite.
The pistol with no mods with basic ammo does not kill in one headshot. Why? Do the enemies somehow have skulls of steel?? Is the pistol a BB Gun??
And I haven't gotten far enough to comment on anything else you mentioned. I'm just in wellspring about to get some guns for my buggy.
Er no, I just expect certain obvious standards to carry over from every fps ever. I don't care if enemies take a lot of bullets from hitting in the chest, but getting shot in the head should be an instant kill every time, unless you are using BBs or something.StuBurns said:
I have the zoom half binocular and every time what happens when I shoot them in the head is they get blood on their face or whatever....they lurch back going "ughhh" and they try to get back behind cover. It takes another direct shot to the head or at least two to the body at that point to actually Kill them.garath said:
plagiarize
Banned
high five.StuBurns said:
if i want to run around just headshotting guys i'll go play COD.
fake spoiler:
i don't want to run around headshotting guys.
The headshot thing does bother me a bit too. I've had quite a few instances where enemies are crouching behind something and only their head is sticking out and I shoot them only to have them fall over for a second and get back up. This happens with the assualt rifle and authority rifle just as much as the pistol.
For all the people saying Rage isn't a RPG it's sure as hell acting like one.
For all the people saying Rage isn't a RPG it's sure as hell acting like one.
AgentOtaku
Member
sajj316 said:
As stated earlier, id spent YEARS engineering/optomizing this for the 360 and PS3 ....I highly doubt it's gonna get any better than this.
Stallion Free
Cock Encumbered
Look guys, Gvaz already admitted to sucking at aiming (he needs a crosshair lololol!) so he needs a reward for actually hitting someone in the head. Two to three times is damn near impossible for him.
Heh, I don't know if Vanquish should be in there. That game offers a level of nuance to the player that simply isn't possible in most shooters. The challenge maps reveal this very quickly. The capabilities of your character are significant, to say the least. In that sense it's close to the likes of Bayonetta than Gears.
Of course, you CAN play it like Gears, I suppose, but you're missing half the fun (provided you stick to normal difficult and the story mode). Challenge maps are so much more demanding and really show what you can do. In that sense, I suppose it also reminds me of GunValkyrie.
I know what you're point is, though, and I agree that Rage is a deeper experience than people seem to believe. It's certainly far beyond the likes of single player Call of Duty, for instance.
Stallion Free said:
No need to act like a dick.
Gvaz said:
What difficulty level are you playing on? I wonder if playing on the higher levels of difficulty just adds a blanket - "add x hp" such that headshots won't always kill guys anymore.
I'm playing on hard and can get some one shot kills (though not many I suppose). From the quicklook where Brad was playing on normal he was getting one shot headshots a lot. Playing on nightmare maybe?
Gvaz said:
Same thing. Either using pistol with half binoculars or the Authority SMG. Maybe the people saying that one headshot kills are playing on normal or easy. Either that or they are talking about multiplayer. On single player Hard it takes 2 to 3 headshots to kill an enemy. Annoying.
Also shotgun spread is gi-fuckin-ourmous, the worst I've ever seen in an FPS. Game is great but shooting combat has some sharp edges. And I'm not taking COD as standard as I Loathe COD.
Gvaz said:
There goes my theory. So I don't know what people are saying about killing in SP with ONE pistol headshot. It simply doesn't happen.
plagiarize
Banned
if you want a game that does that, go play one. don't tell me that EVERY game should do that, when i want to play games where it isn't the case.Gvaz said:
i want the encounters to be a little more protracted sometimes.
most games don't have the number of responses to being shot that ID have put into Rage. it isn't padding. ID have programed reactions to those shots even if they don't kill them.
AgentOtaku
Member
I agree that the shotgun(s), while sounding godly, are also probably the most unfun weapons to use so far =(
This could have been mitaged if only one of them had the spread that they do. I should have been the double-barrell. Sadly they both are this way and are largly useless.
This could have been mitaged if only one of them had the spread that they do. I should have been the double-barrell. Sadly they both are this way and are largly useless.
Gvaz said:
I don't think anybody considers the story and dialogue to be genuinely good in the traditional sense, but rather adequate insofar that it's unimportant yet serviceable enough to its function, which is to act as a vehicle for the gameplay - give exposited reason for the player to continue playing. It's like this in every id game to varying extents, Rage being the one with the most narrative focus.
Pistol headshots annoyed me until I found the Fatboys ammunition.
There are weapons/ammo types that are built for headshots (crossbow feels SO good), and there are weapons that are built for just shooting the bastard till he stops moving.
The shotgun is great backup. If any of these bastards get near, one shell the to face knocks them the fuck out.
And yes, the story sucks, which is why this game isn't as engrossing to me as the Bioshocks or the Deus Exes.
EDIT: Gvaz, honestly you need to keep playing. The combat options just keep growing till the end of the game, and the variety is the spice that keeps this game moving.
There are weapons/ammo types that are built for headshots (crossbow feels SO good), and there are weapons that are built for just shooting the bastard till he stops moving.
The shotgun is great backup. If any of these bastards get near, one shell the to face knocks them the fuck out.
And yes, the story sucks, which is why this game isn't as engrossing to me as the Bioshocks or the Deus Exes.
EDIT: Gvaz, honestly you need to keep playing. The combat options just keep growing till the end of the game, and the variety is the spice that keeps this game moving.
They're probably not using basic ammo. Everyone I've talked to is like "oh yeah these dudes go down in one pulse ammo to the head with the pistol" and I'm just like >:S "I'm talking about the basic ammo..."T Ghost said:
The shotgun's spread kind of stinks because it's great at close combat but anything more than ten feet and the gun kind of sucks.
Gvaz said:
I've been playing on Nightmare, really easy so far. Upgrading the ammo will usually kill them in one shot anyway. You don't need headshots. The first ammo upgrade for the pistol kills in one shot. Headshots aren't needed for the ammo upgrades. I agree that regular ammo should kill in one shot to the head.
AgentOtaku said:
No doubt in my mind that they spent years optimizing this. We do know that installing the game (partial) on SSD yields significant improvement with respect to texture streaming/loading. What would be the incremental improvement if the game is 100% installed to hard disc? I don't know the answer to that question but I assume it would be a positive improvement.
plagiarize
Banned
i'd agree with this complaint if it was a game that limited how many guns you can carry at once. yeah, the shotgun isn't great beyond close range, but you've got a bunch of weapons that are. get used to switching guns often. it makes the game more interestingGvaz said:
I think this game, more than your average game, emphasizes using the right tool for the job. Headshotting Wastelanders with the crossbow is a 1 hit kill 99% of the time for me... unless they're wearing a hat. For those guys, a Fat Mama does the trick. Shotty is my go-to for muties and slimers. I tend to save Pop Rockets and sniper rounds for mid-bosses. I haven't even fought any Authority yet. When I do, I'll figure out what works best on them.
popsicle_sundays
Member
So I'm considering using my $20 Newegg credit towards the PC Version of Rage (which also gives $10 credit) is the game worth it? I've been looking over the config file modding and it looks a ton better.
I'm running the following:
Phenom x4 945 3.2 gigz
4gb ddr3 1600 mhz
GTX 570
I'm running the following:
Phenom x4 945 3.2 gigz
4gb ddr3 1600 mhz
GTX 570
AgentOtaku
Member
sajj316 said:
Sony has a limit on how much is allowed to be installed. They actually waived this just for id and allowed them 8gbs ...before it was something like 4-5 only.
AgentOtaku said:
I imagine that this is so the earlier PS3 models - ones with smaller HDDs - aren't overwhelmed by only a few games, but ideally Sony should have mandated that any developer opting to have their game install most or all of its data must also provide a smaller partial install option.
Played a bit of it now, I regretted getting the PS3 version pretty much instantly. ADS snap aim is really irritating. I don't think it makes a good first impression, graphically it's rough, the framerate is nice, but it doesn't feel all that crisp with a pad anyway. The dying mini game is lame. It feels like creatively it's being pulled from two very different directions, one of RPG/exploration pedigree, one from traditional FPS pedigree, and it's a disappointing middle ground. I'm not giving up or anything, I'll play more, but so far it's looking pretty middling.
Stallion Free
Cock Encumbered
The game feels incredibly crisp on the 360 pad on PC @ 60 fps triple-buffered.StuBurns said:
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I was enjoying the combat but finding it a bit on the derivative side. Once I did the Shrouded Bunker and got to the Dead City, I have to say that I'm sold. Rage has sold me on its combat. So fucking incredible.
AgentOtaku
Member
I do wish I could turn off the autoaim ...hurts more than it helps.