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RAGE |OT| "It's done when it's done"
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thetrin
Hail, peons, for I have come as ambassador from the great and bountiful Blueberry Butt Explosion
Don't think you can.JohngPR said:
As I said earlier, anyone who is lukewarm on the combat, wait until you get to the Dead City. If you still don't like the combat after that, then I don't know what to tell you.
Hell, the intensity should kick in by the time you hit the Shrouded Bunker.
The game feels identically crisp to me on both the PS3 and using a 360 pad on the PC. Any issues he is having are likely related to his feelings on the PS3 pad. They are exactly the same in terms of feel (though I prefer using the bumpers for switching weapons over the triggers on a DS3).Stallion Free said:
The auto aim here seems far more subtle than most games, I thought.
Stripper13
Member
JohngPR said:
I did the EXACT same thing... down to shooting the ropes.
-PXG- said:
The (hub-based) world is open but the progression is linear with a handful of side-quests, primarily through job boards. If you enjoyed id's games of the past, I say it's worth the asking price.
Edit: Posting this made me realise I've yet to consult the job board in Subway Town. Oops.
thelurkinghorror
Member
Autofokus said:Say hello to Bethesda 2011, all their published games had no English. Next up: Skyrim.
But the uber collector edition of Skyrim will be only in english, so if you like dragon and hate localization now you know what to do...
Gvaz said:
Yeah, I noticed the Wellspring board. I was disappointed to learn that the board only offered 5 or 6 jobs.
CyReN said:
You're more or less at the halfway point. I think there's another mission or two required of you in Wellspring and then you're off to the second and final hub.
Snkfanatic
Banned
JohngPR said:LOL! At least I don't feel so bad for overlooking it now.
Did it too man lol, I figured they had to let us help her by cutting her down. Left disturbed
NullPointer
Member
Shooting bullets directly into an enemy's face only to see them them continue on their merry way *is* lame. And this is against beginner enemies, on normal difficulty.StuBurns said:
Do what you want with different scatter values, accuracy, penetration and damage types, but for the love of God, bullets to exposed faces should kill, and if they don't they should cripple (like really cripple, none of that Fallout 3 shit).
Guess its a personal pet peeve but for me it reduces the reward element in a shooting game and utterly breaks immersion. Bad guys stop being humanlike and become nothing more than nicely animated buckets of hit points.
Well I know for a fact there is one hit kills on normal with a pistol head shot (standard ammo) on PS3 now, because I've been doing it.NullPointer said:
I don't get the argument it's immersion breaking, if a game theoretically didn't have one hit head shots. If you can fire around in a guys heart, and he has a ten frame damage animation before returning to running mindlessly towards you, that is every bit as unrealistic as not having head shots. If you shot a man in the knee, he will fall to the ground and cower, games don't do that either, because it's not fun.
It's absolutely there.Sullichin said:
thetrin
Hail, peons, for I have come as ambassador from the great and bountiful Blueberry Butt Explosion
It's also a far better idea to always shoot from the hip, since it doesn't seem to hamper your aiming considerably, and you still have access to your wingsticks and grenades.dark10x said:
fizzelopeguss
Banned
This game is all over the fucking place, the mutants and guns (which are awesome) save it from being a complete dissapointment for me.
NullPointer
Member
Its not entirely realism that I'm asking for here, although that is one aspect. Its the fact that I get no positive feedback from a headshot (short of using a sniper rifle or the flingy blades), so the end impact of that shot seems no different than a shot to the chest or legs. At the end of the day it weakens gunplay because it feels like you can hit an enemy anywhere and have the same end result (purely a reduction in enemy hit points), and a shooter without that positive feedback for good aim just isn't as fun for me.nel e nel said:
I still like the game, but yeah, it does flatten the whole shooting experience to "shoot this enemy X times with this ammo".
oktarb
Member
StuBurns said:
Well they are going for a certain amount of immersion in this game. This can be seen with a couple of things. One, some enemies where helmets. Helmets that you can shoot off. This leads one to believe that the head need protection. yet if you shoot a guy without the helmet it rarely kills them. The grunt, duck and shoot back.
Second, they have a whole scripted animation where guys fall down and then fires from a prone position after you do heavy damage. This too leads to an attempt at immersion.
It still seems to me the enemies are 'buckets of hit points'. Some have more and some have less. So sometime you can headshot someone and they die. Other times you can't because you didn't do enough damage.
Fallout suffered from this too. You should sniper them in the brain bucket, the camera would go all dramatically slow, blood would spray everywhere and then wham back to normal speed and they're still running right at you.
Call it how you like but this simply doesn't feel right.
GrayFoxPL
Member
I got my ps3 version. First time right on release day!
Tbh the first hour of the game is dull and disappointing, but later it picks up and starts getting into good shit. The enemies animation and hit reaction especially at shotgun shot is top notch. Easily the best part of the game.
They fucked up a little with the shadow settings in dungeons. In darker areas game looks way worse then in fully lit rooms.
Shadows in dungeons have different tint - in first it is green, blue in second and purple in third. Bizzaro. In hub towns lightning and shadows appear to be much better and correct, no tint. Wtf ID?
Game installed pretty fast for me, I expected worse. Faster then DNF 5 gig.
Texture pop in varies greatly from area to area. Like some areas are better optimized then others. In some places textures load really super quick others seem to really take their time lol.
To be honest gfx aren't that impressive in game. The rock mountains look the best but that's it. It's ok but nothing to gasp about. And those fucked up shadowy areas drag the impression down.
Aiming is very precise I love it.
Funny thing at bandits voices, they speak with clean British accent. Kinda unfitting for desert barbarians but funny.
Tbh the first hour of the game is dull and disappointing, but later it picks up and starts getting into good shit. The enemies animation and hit reaction especially at shotgun shot is top notch. Easily the best part of the game.
They fucked up a little with the shadow settings in dungeons. In darker areas game looks way worse then in fully lit rooms.
Shadows in dungeons have different tint - in first it is green, blue in second and purple in third. Bizzaro. In hub towns lightning and shadows appear to be much better and correct, no tint. Wtf ID?
Game installed pretty fast for me, I expected worse. Faster then DNF 5 gig.
Texture pop in varies greatly from area to area. Like some areas are better optimized then others. In some places textures load really super quick others seem to really take their time lol.
To be honest gfx aren't that impressive in game. The rock mountains look the best but that's it. It's ok but nothing to gasp about. And those fucked up shadowy areas drag the impression down.
Aiming is very precise I love it.
Funny thing at bandits voices, they speak with clean British accent. Kinda unfitting for desert barbarians but funny.
NullPointer said:
Really, your not feeling ANY feedback from headshots? I'm playing on Hard, and while I'm not expecting to get one hit kills with the pistol, I definitely see some feedback, even if it's slight.
How far along in the game are you? As you progress, there are different factions with different armors that affect their reactions.
I guess it's subjective thing then, because while I have nitpicked about some of the environmental textures, the AI is pretty amazing with how it reacts to hit detection.
I'm enjoying this game and everything, but honestly, its the ugliest PC game I've played in a long time. It genuinely looks like a game from almost 10 years ago. The textures are disgusting beyond belief, and they drag the whole presentation down a huge amount.
I understand things have to be sacrificed on console in order to achieve 60fps, but I don't play on console. I play on PC, and I'm used to 60fps with something that doesn't look so terrible. Artistically the game is great, though. It's just a shame that art has been gimped by these horrible 2001-esq textures.
I understand things have to be sacrificed on console in order to achieve 60fps, but I don't play on console. I play on PC, and I'm used to 60fps with something that doesn't look so terrible. Artistically the game is great, though. It's just a shame that art has been gimped by these horrible 2001-esq textures.
CitizenCope
Member
I felt the same. Really the first couple of hours for me. Now that I'm 6 hours or so in I'm really digging it. Fun game and it looks fantastic on my 360. =OGrayFoxPL said:
Slackbladder
Member
With the config in place it's not too bad. Such a shame I don't have 5.1 for some bizarre reason.
I like the look of the game, the design of the characters, the feel of combat. But I wish the sky box changed or there was a day-to-night change too.
I like the look of the game, the design of the characters, the feel of combat. But I wish the sky box changed or there was a day-to-night change too.
Xander51
Member
Truant said:
I fully agree with this. Although I sort of liked the Doom-y, throwback nature of the last level, it's such a lame area compared to the clever design of every previous level. The ending of the game is incredibly anti-climactic, and there's no real final boss...it just kind of ends. Terrible let down of an ending. Loved the rest of the game though.
The fact head shots can be one hit kills implies there is an issue with the collision model, not the design. I think it's very unlikely random mutants are meant to have a higher tolerance to being shot in the face than others.
And thanks dark10x, just played a little only from the hip, felt much nicer.
And thanks dark10x, just played a little only from the hip, felt much nicer.
StuBurns said:
not a huge fan of how they're handling this on Nightmare. Some enemies take about 3 blows to the head before going down, but im guessing its to justify the different ammo types, since they do go down with one fat boy.
also yeah, ignore Iron Sights completely. Them being basically useless besides zoom was a great surprise, id game using relying on iron sights would have been weird.