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RAGE |OT| "It's done when it's done"
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AgentOtaku
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OH! where's the Quake room?
Also, how's the KB/Mouse controls in the PC version? They as good as DoomIII?
Also, how's the KB/Mouse controls in the PC version? They as good as DoomIII?
Alex Connolly
Member
AgentOtaku said:
Excellent controls. Smoothest, sleekest FPS I've played in a long time.
AgentOtaku said:
The Wasted Garage. Fairly well hidden, actually.
And yes, the controls are amazing.
AgentOtaku
Member
GuiltybyAssociation said:
Thanks!
PC version it is then.
Damn, Subway Town looks cool as hell. This and Wellspring look awesome.
I'm enjoying the game, but I don't know, something feels off. I think it's the story and characters. I just don't care for any of it or them.
I think it might be from me playing New Vegas right before this and so the the shared post-apocalyptic setting is messing with my experience in Rage. The vast world of Fallout with all of it's lore behind the universe makes Rage feel...I don't know, sparse in comparison. Probably unfair since this is simply a different kind of game than Fallout, I just wish there was a bit more to the world.
Combat is very fun, though. And the environments certainly look great.
I'm enjoying the game, but I don't know, something feels off. I think it's the story and characters. I just don't care for any of it or them.
I think it might be from me playing New Vegas right before this and so the the shared post-apocalyptic setting is messing with my experience in Rage. The vast world of Fallout with all of it's lore behind the universe makes Rage feel...I don't know, sparse in comparison. Probably unfair since this is simply a different kind of game than Fallout, I just wish there was a bit more to the world.
Combat is very fun, though. And the environments certainly look great.
Thunderbear
Mawio Gawaxy iz da Wheeson hee pways games
Five hours in and I am still loving this game. Loving it to the point that it's the most fun FPS of the year for me. I see it as a shallow FPS with some looting and arcade racing with decent amount of customization. This is by no means a RPG-FPS. Don't get why a game like Gears of War gets so much love when a game like this gets, comparatively, so much dislike. Maybe it's the MP aspects that does it, because I don't really have any close friends that game so I just play SP. Don't enjoy playing MP against people I don't know unless I know at least one person.
And the graphics are insanely good. Whoever called this game brown doesn't know what he/she is talking about! It has very strong colors and so much detail. The lighting is fantastic and I just want to stop and look at every single area because of how gorgeous it is. Not seeing tiling is refreshing even though some textures are quite muddy as a result of it. Can't wait for next-generation.
I am using the custom config on my PC (that's the version I have) to try to increase the resolution of the textures but it seems they either didn't include higher resolution textures or the current method doesn't properly unlock it. I want something that fills up my 1.5gb of VRAM (not that VRAM is used for textures only like a lot of people seem to think but anyway).
I better hurry up and finish it though as Batman is out next week and I am really looking forward to that... Or wait until the PC version comes out which I might do.
And the graphics are insanely good. Whoever called this game brown doesn't know what he/she is talking about! It has very strong colors and so much detail. The lighting is fantastic and I just want to stop and look at every single area because of how gorgeous it is. Not seeing tiling is refreshing even though some textures are quite muddy as a result of it. Can't wait for next-generation.
I am using the custom config on my PC (that's the version I have) to try to increase the resolution of the textures but it seems they either didn't include higher resolution textures or the current method doesn't properly unlock it. I want something that fills up my 1.5gb of VRAM (not that VRAM is used for textures only like a lot of people seem to think but anyway).
I better hurry up and finish it though as Batman is out next week and I am really looking forward to that... Or wait until the PC version comes out which I might do.
Thunderbear
Mawio Gawaxy iz da Wheeson hee pways games
Fjordson said:
I definitely think this. Rage is an arcade game with some additions, while Fallout is a full blown Action RPG. If you accept that I think it's an awesome, and fun game. It's not a deep experience, but I don't think it needs to be.
As for writing... I don't really think any writing in games is any good except for a couple of exceptions. We're really in the dark ages in this area.
ShinobiFist
Banned
This game has no story. I've been very harsh on this game, and for obvious reasons. The limited world is what killed it for me. The lack of towns doesn't make sense to me, and their size as well. The ping pong pacing got annoying real fast. Subway Town is such a tease. It looks so awesome, but yet, tiny. This game is a Tech Demo to me. I had fun doing some of the main missions, but the lack of substance(You hardly drive on the second disc)and the know problems this game has is a huge turn off. I think people who enjoy this game is because of the 60fps and texturesFjordson said:
Kong Fisso
Banned
I think you're wrong.ShinobiFist said:
Shooting and killing shit in Rage is awesome. Detractors complain about the lack of towns, rpg systems, npcs, whatever. Just look at the retarded Bioshock/Fallout discusion.
I'm glad they built this as a shooter first and foremost. I would have hated more rpg-elements and down time - takes away from the shooting and killing things.
Really don't get this constant tech demo reference. A tech demo for who? Its not being licensed to anyone and won't be used for anything other than Bethesda games. I also don't see how something with this many issues can be called a tech demo. For me RAGE is really impressive in some areas but dissapointing in others. Especially on PC, its pretty inconsistent. As impressive as RAGE can be, I hardly think its a convincing reference for the tech.
Or is "just a tech demo" the new "looks like Borderlands" in terms of lazy and sloppy criticism?
Or is "just a tech demo" the new "looks like Borderlands" in terms of lazy and sloppy criticism?
Thunderbear
Mawio Gawaxy iz da Wheeson hee pways games
ShinobiFist said:
You know that's not true? I mean it's not even an opinion, the game has a narrative. You wake up from stasis because a meteor has hit earth and you were sent to the moon to rest until the planet would be habitable again. As you progress through the story you find out more and more why you were brought back prematurely. It's not a great story but it has a story. Call it a weak story, but it does have a story.
A tech demo would be a game with no gameplay right? It has plenty of gameplay. There's lots of action, well implemented FPS and a fun side aspect of driving missions but the main heart of it is an FPS which ID has always said (referring to your comment about no driving on the second disc (not sure where the disc swap is since I have the PC version).
As for the last part I bolded, that's not at all the reason why I love (yes, love) this game. I do love the 60fps part, but there's so much more that I love. You don't like the game, fine, but don't try to tell others why they like it or why they are wrong for liking it.
ShinobiFist
Banned
Kong Fisso said:
Bulletstorm did a better job at "killing shit is awesome" And this game wasn't built as a shooter all the way. They really, and clearly gave a fuck about the driving(Which was done very well)What's the point of having a world or towns if they're tiny as fuck. If RAGE would have just got rid of the world map and have a typical pacing like any other FPS, I probably would've enjoy the game a lot more. They're other FPS in the market that is doing a lot more in the genre than RAGE. From content, story, mechanics and world. Shit, id couldn't even get the shotgun spread right, lol. RAGE is like a hotgirl who can't fuck right.
Kong Fisso
Banned
Sounds like you like fucking the fat, nasty type with all the toys and cheap jewellery.ShinobiFist said:
RAGE doesn't even need all that shit. She too pretty.
I'm amazed at people defending the story saying that it's "minimalism" is a pro, rather than acknowledging that it's really just pathetic and about nothing, with a biggest non-ending I can remember in recent years, which really is a kick to the balls after such a long development time.
plagiarize
Banned
Google 'carmack story' and then at least you'll not expect a proper story in their next game. Not saying that the game wouldn't be better with better writing, cause it would, but just steering you clear of expecting to get that from an ID game.Hela said:
AgentOtaku
Member
It's funny cause it seemed like id really tried for narrative back in 2004 with Doom3 (which mostly consisted of System shock2 logs, though nowhere near as good). Ultimately it was still met with a meh reception and now they're back to really not caring/focusing on it and putting gameplay first. Which is fine, but in Rage's case, I think the world/setup is awesome, so it's a shame it get's half-served.
I didn't really expect anything amazing, or groundbreaking but I expected something and they've given me absolutely nothing. I know very well that id isn't Bioware, and I don't want them to be, but that's no excuse for creating nothing. Especially when the multiplayer is mostly throwaway.plagiarize said:
I'm several missions into Subway Town - still loving the combat, still impressed by the atmosphere - but the game overall feels like a collection of unrelated side-missions. There's no real sense of progress or purpose.
Level design is strong, but actual mission design is practically non-existent. Several missions literally boil down to "play through this level again, but in reverse". Locations look great and are interesting and varied, but very little actually happens within them.
The various elements of the game feel disconnected. Driving around the wasteland, blowing up bandits can be fun, but it often feels superfluous. Mutant Bash TV is oddly random, as if it exists alone in this world, independent of the society around it. Again - it's enjoyable - but it's not integrated well.
I completely understand why many here are fully satisfied with id's focus and approach. As I said, I'm having fun, and definitely do not regret my purchase. But I do think that the experience as a whole fails to gel in a complete, cohesive way.
Level design is strong, but actual mission design is practically non-existent. Several missions literally boil down to "play through this level again, but in reverse". Locations look great and are interesting and varied, but very little actually happens within them.
The various elements of the game feel disconnected. Driving around the wasteland, blowing up bandits can be fun, but it often feels superfluous. Mutant Bash TV is oddly random, as if it exists alone in this world, independent of the society around it. Again - it's enjoyable - but it's not integrated well.
I completely understand why many here are fully satisfied with id's focus and approach. As I said, I'm having fun, and definitely do not regret my purchase. But I do think that the experience as a whole fails to gel in a complete, cohesive way.
Well, I had to use the +jobs_numThreads 0 command among other things. I shouldn't have to disable threads, but it did work.Refreshment.01 said:
That said, now I get a perfect 60 fps, but I still see texture pop-in. So while the resolution is superior, the experience is really not all that different from the PS3 version. I'm playing both back to back (main progress on PS3 and replaying on PC). I actually LOVE playing the game so I'm kind of enjoying the double shot.
That said, although it was running well last night, I can't help but think that it will randomly break again soon. The settings required to get it running properly are very specific and even one variable change will tank the whole thing.
AgentOtaku
Member
Gvaz said:
Yep, like I said, DoubleBarrell doesn't really need to exist honestly. They both have completely shit range, are more or less interchangable, and once you turn shotty into clip-fed, DoubleBarrell becomes useless.
Only time I use it is to just hear how awesome it sounds.
Stallion Free
Cock Encumbered
Quake 4 was Raven, not Id.awwyeahgurrl said:
AgentOtaku
Member
dark10x said:
This is why i'm still hesistant to get the PC version. Sure I should be fine with my setup, but if i'm not for whatever reason (like Deus Ex), i'm essentially stuck with a $60 game that I can't get rid of =/
AgentOtaku
Member
Effect said:
I read the 3-issue comic run and it was pretty damn forgettable.
If you're going to go that far, then why not include Doom and Wolf 3D for iPhone?StuBurns said:
Rage HD was awesome, for what it was, and I fucking love Doom 3. Team Arena was more of an add-on than a real game, though. Even if YOU didn't enjoy those games, can you really call them crap? I hate the recent Mario Kart games, for instance, but I wouldn't say they are crap.
The problems with Deus Ex were not even remotely close to the problems with Rage. At least DX was still quite playable despite some hitching and loading issues (which were all solved, thankfully). Rage was absolutely NOT playable in any way, shape, or form for me. It has taken more than a week to finally reach a playable state and, even then, it's not perfect.
I've had much more fun with the PS3 version as a result even though it feels great with a mouse and keyboard (when it works). You might have better luck with an nVidia card, of course, but I wouldn't count on great performance.
Man, I think we disagree on just about everything. Every time I see you post an opinion I find myself disagreeing with you.StuBurns said:
For instance, I think God of War III is the best in THAT series but I recall you posting just the other day that it was crap. I found the first two games to be somewhat dull and over-hyped, actually. That said, they were both very well made and of high quality.It seems that way.
AgentOtaku
Member
Gvaz said:
lol, will have to try this
Thought would most likely be if you charge $60 then you bring you A game. Nothing less. I see no reason why people shouldn't take that stance. Developers/publishers know what their game is like. If it doesn't reach a certain standard that can easily be judged by comparing a game to others (they don't exist in a bubble) then price down your game accordingly. Not all games are equal in quality but if they are going to be priced the same then those of lesser quality should be judged more harshly for the price being asked. I'd personally be more forgiving to a game that has flaws but is costing me $30 or $40 compared to one costing me $50 or $60.DaBuddaDa said:
plagiarize
Banned
you didn't google it then. i made sure the first hit was relavent before i told you to do the search.Hela said:
i'm not blaming you for not knowing this, but:
John Carmack said:
agree with it, disagree with it... that's his philosphy. if you'd known that, you may have steered clear of the game altogether, or you may have come in with different expectations, but now at least, you know.
So instead of people nitpicking at each others posts does anyone actually have any thoughts on rage? Any issues other than drivers that I should know about, how's the general content in the game, what's the general length of a playthrough.
I couldn't give a shit if you liked a game I didn't like, we all have our own opinions.
I couldn't give a shit if you liked a game I didn't like, we all have our own opinions.
and before anyone asks why I'm asking for an opinion when I said I don't care about others, I haven't played rage as opposed to games I have played and made my mind up about.
plagiarize
Banned
i may find two games to be worth $60 even if i greatly prefer one over the other. value is inherantly subjective... and even as individuals we don't hold every game to the same standards, because we don't as individuals expect to get exactly the same thing out of every game.dark10x said:
what i expected to get out of Ghostbusters: The Game and what i expected to get out of Dead Space 2 were completely different. if i'd judged Ghostbusters by the same standards i judged Dead Space 2 i'd have slated it. but i didn't, because i'm human and it gave me EXACTLY what i wanted, so i loved it.