SuperAngelo64
Banned
The Banjo-Kazooie soundtrack is an overrated sound crime.
It's James Pond degrees of bad.
It's James Pond degrees of bad.
Raise the flame shield: Your "controversial" gaming opinion.
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It really bugged me how Joel apparently never had the idea of teaching Ellie how to swim. It seemed like he had time to.
Katzenjammer
Member
I just finished "Brothers - A Tale of Two Sons" in one sitting and found it to be a very underwhelming experience. While it has a few neat ideas and settings, the whole comes off being way less than the sum of its parts.
gigantor21
Member
So, essentially, you believe that academic study of video games runs the risk of being too easy to co-opt as yet another marketing tool to live up to it's potential--if it hasn't already? It's an understandable assessment, given the self-congratulating undercurrent surrounding, say, The Last of Us, or Bioshock Infinite, or Gone Home. But I feel that's simply an inevitability of gaming's current place in the larger cultural landscape.
If the concept of video games as art was a person, it still wouldn't be old enough to walk yet IMO. Comics have been around in some form or another for hundreds of years, but AFAIK serious academic study that wasn't "OMG OUR CHILDREN ARE BEING CORRUPTED" didn't arise until about 30-35 years ago. I think it's WAY too early to worry.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
I'm inclined to agree here. It was a revolutionary game for its time, and one of the most important (platform) games ever, but personally I don't find it neither particularly good nor particularly fun to play.
Silent Hill: Shattered Memories is the only walking simulator you will ever need.
Servbot #42
Unconfirmed Member
I dunno if this qualifies as a controversial opinion but after finishing Max Payne 3 i found it to be a mediocre experience, did people here actually think it was good?
KotOR 2 is better as 3/4 of an RPG than KotOR 1's full game. And KotOR 1 is a great game, don't get me wrong, but the sequel is one of the most unique and compelling Star Wars stories ever.
SWTOR is an absolute pile of shit and a disgrace to the series. Bioware should be embarrassed for putting that out and daring to call it "KotOR 3-12", as if it was actually a true, honest continuation of the previous two games stories instead of a cash-grab MMO that pissed all over the characters and themes. The people who made TOR either had no clue how to make a worthy successor to the series, or had no interest. Personally I think it was the latter, and they just wanted to make their own Star Wars MMO and use the KotOR name as a brand to sell it.
Also, Bioware in general (including their crown jewel, the Mass Effect series) is way overhyped. They are not the best writers or RPG designers in the game industry by far. I wouldn't necessarily say that Mass Effect is a BAD series (although ME3 was pretty awful), but it's not worthy of the ridiculous praise and "best game series of all time!!" Everything that Mass Effect gets praised for (choice and consequences, characters, world), I could name at least five other games this generation that do them far better. They're fun for what they are, but they're not that good. To be honest, I think that the series' emphasis on cinematic presentation and streamlined accessibility has more to do with it's popularity than anything else.
SWTOR is an absolute pile of shit and a disgrace to the series. Bioware should be embarrassed for putting that out and daring to call it "KotOR 3-12", as if it was actually a true, honest continuation of the previous two games stories instead of a cash-grab MMO that pissed all over the characters and themes. The people who made TOR either had no clue how to make a worthy successor to the series, or had no interest. Personally I think it was the latter, and they just wanted to make their own Star Wars MMO and use the KotOR name as a brand to sell it.
Also, Bioware in general (including their crown jewel, the Mass Effect series) is way overhyped. They are not the best writers or RPG designers in the game industry by far. I wouldn't necessarily say that Mass Effect is a BAD series (although ME3 was pretty awful), but it's not worthy of the ridiculous praise and "best game series of all time!!" Everything that Mass Effect gets praised for (choice and consequences, characters, world), I could name at least five other games this generation that do them far better. They're fun for what they are, but they're not that good. To be honest, I think that the series' emphasis on cinematic presentation and streamlined accessibility has more to do with it's popularity than anything else.
I was pretty hyped for Wolfenstein: The New Order, especially after all the positivity here, but I found it really bland and boring. The stealth was good, the story was decent, the gunplay was good, but my God the shooting got really tiresome after a while. The horrendously bullet spongey heavies didn't help. Probably the most disappointing game this year for me.
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
I only finished it the other day and was pretty disappointed as well, I was really enjoying it to begin with but the waves of enemies towards the end really soured it for me. The fetch quest sections in the hideout were completely pointless and really ruined the momentum of the game, also wtf was with having to pick up every piece of ammo individually. What a stupid idea that was
my tinfoil hat theories for MS and EA:
1) Peter Moore left MS to go to EA for a future investment in order to corner specific markets with their buying power and resources.
2) Through out the 360 launch to current time, MS has put a significant amount of money in buying out timed exclusives in very clever ways like making Madden 30 fps ( via above), or using CoD4 as a timed exclusive. This gave it significant momentum, and they advertised it heavily.
3) I also believe that there has been a significant astroturfing campaign going on in the forums, and upon each mess up there seems to be a direct parallel between the shift and then what certain posters and writers focus on.
4) I also believe that all of the mess ups in terms of resolution gate and other misinformation were not mistakes, i.e. Digital Foundary, Polygon, etc. It was a coordinated action to perceive parity, working in part with the astroturfing campaign. Perhaps the writers were unaware or were withheld information, however for a reason.
5) Sony is held to a much high standard, not only with the press but in the forums for their games and efforts. No games, arrogant, etc. Even reviews.
6) Fanboys are also a huge issue, for both sides, but I genuinely think there is a much higher coordinated effort from MS to infiltrate forums and websites to spread misinformation. Concern trolling, with Naught Dog and The Order in particular.
1) Peter Moore left MS to go to EA for a future investment in order to corner specific markets with their buying power and resources.
1a) EA has notoriously and aggressively bought on game developers since, who then exhausted their resources and are eventually shutdown. EA Access is basically a graveyard of those studios hardwork.2) Through out the 360 launch to current time, MS has put a significant amount of money in buying out timed exclusives in very clever ways like making Madden 30 fps ( via above), or using CoD4 as a timed exclusive. This gave it significant momentum, and they advertised it heavily.
3) I also believe that there has been a significant astroturfing campaign going on in the forums, and upon each mess up there seems to be a direct parallel between the shift and then what certain posters and writers focus on.
4) I also believe that all of the mess ups in terms of resolution gate and other misinformation were not mistakes, i.e. Digital Foundary, Polygon, etc. It was a coordinated action to perceive parity, working in part with the astroturfing campaign. Perhaps the writers were unaware or were withheld information, however for a reason.
5) Sony is held to a much high standard, not only with the press but in the forums for their games and efforts. No games, arrogant, etc. Even reviews.
6) Fanboys are also a huge issue, for both sides, but I genuinely think there is a much higher coordinated effort from MS to infiltrate forums and websites to spread misinformation. Concern trolling, with Naught Dog and The Order in particular.
Picking up anything in that game feels anal as shit. Still fun tho
ThePlayerofGames
Banned
I think dlc has pretty much ruined gaming.
We are never, ever going to get games as a complete product - like they should be - ever again. And gamers have no one but themselves to blame.
I also think gamers are flat out idiots when it comes to things like standing up for their consumer rights. They'll happily give them up for the newest, shiniest thing that comes along, including Steam.
Steam trained a generation of gamers it's okay to give up your consumer rights for a few bucks during a sale.
Lastly, shut up about frame rate.
I understand the concept that a better fr makes a game smoother, but it dominates every conversation about every upcoming game to such a degree that it just comes across as whining.
Either play the game or don't. Whining about the fr just makes me want to tune you out completely.
We are never, ever going to get games as a complete product - like they should be - ever again. And gamers have no one but themselves to blame.
I also think gamers are flat out idiots when it comes to things like standing up for their consumer rights. They'll happily give them up for the newest, shiniest thing that comes along, including Steam.
Steam trained a generation of gamers it's okay to give up your consumer rights for a few bucks during a sale.
Lastly, shut up about frame rate.
I understand the concept that a better fr makes a game smoother, but it dominates every conversation about every upcoming game to such a degree that it just comes across as whining.
Either play the game or don't. Whining about the fr just makes me want to tune you out completely.
The Jak and Daxter series is better than the Ratchet and Sly games
NBA and NFL Street games are infinitely more fun than the Madden and 2K
Call of Duty became boring after WaW and MW2
I enjoyed SWTOR's story mode
Fallout 3 is this better than Skyrim and New Vegas
Halo 3 and Halo Reach was the best multiplayer in the series
NBA and NFL Street games are infinitely more fun than the Madden and 2K
Call of Duty became boring after WaW and MW2
I enjoyed SWTOR's story mode
Fallout 3 is this better than Skyrim and New Vegas
Halo 3 and Halo Reach was the best multiplayer in the series
Boss Man
Member
Destiny is more of the same.
Man, it definitely did peak too early. I enjoyed the rest of the game, but yeah I can see that.
neurosisxeno
Member
It's HaloLand Online. It's basically Borderlands in a Halo setting with raids. I've been describing it that way to people since the initial announcement.
I'll disagree. The actual questing and story elements of SWTOR were hands down the best part, and I had a ton of fun leveling different classes for that reason. The game was only actually a piece of shit when you hit max level, and that has since been remedied I hear. Dungeons were nearly unplayable and the faction imbalance was so bad you spent 90% of the PvP time playing Huttball against the same people on your faction over and over.
The only reason that "Kotor 3-12" came up is because people demanded to know where SWTOR fit in chronologically, so they said it took place after Kotor 2 but had tons more content, enough content to dub it "Kotor 3-12". Calling it a cash grab is silly because it was actually a phenomenal value in terms of story-driven content. It would take you several months to level each class and they all had very different stories.
DannyDanger
Member
I'm pro #gamergate and #notyourshield
I don't agree with the internet threats obviously. But I don't think those ppl represent the majority of gamergate supporters.
Also I 100% disagree with the notion that gamergate is an attack on women, at its core.
That claim has no solid footing imo
I don't agree with the internet threats obviously. But I don't think those ppl represent the majority of gamergate supporters.
Also I 100% disagree with the notion that gamergate is an attack on women, at its core.
That claim has no solid footing imo
Captainbojanglesiii
Banned
Persona 3 > 4 due to its OST and atmosphere overall
Red Dead is a great game, but it is boring
The Nintendo 64 wasn't that good and the controller is awful
DLC is amazing when done correctly
Mario Kart 7 is one of the 3 worst Mario Kart games and is still amazing
Super Mario 3D Land is underrated and one of 3DS' best games
Left 4 Dead is not very good
Pokemon R/S/E is the worst region
Halo: Reach is the best Halo game
Halo 3 ODST isn't very good, it's just good
Console gaming will not be dying anytime soon and in fact will strengthen this gen
Red Dead is a great game, but it is boring
The Nintendo 64 wasn't that good and the controller is awful
DLC is amazing when done correctly
Mario Kart 7 is one of the 3 worst Mario Kart games and is still amazing
Super Mario 3D Land is underrated and one of 3DS' best games
Left 4 Dead is not very good
Pokemon R/S/E is the worst region
Halo: Reach is the best Halo game
Halo 3 ODST isn't very good, it's just good
Console gaming will not be dying anytime soon and in fact will strengthen this gen
You don't really get Dota do you? It really is better to call it an ARTS and not lump it in with the "MOBA's"
flatearthpandas
Member
Might as well pop in. I bought the Last of Us on PS3 used and returned it a few days later because it felt like a chore. However, I kept my mouth shut since I hadn't finished it and it supposedly got better right after where I stopped.
Sat with my friend as he played through the rest of the game on PS4 last week. For what was supposed to be the Children of Men of videogames, it felt awfully like the World War Z.
Sat with my friend as he played through the rest of the game on PS4 last week. For what was supposed to be the Children of Men of videogames, it felt awfully like the World War Z.
TheAggroCraig
Member
I found Limbo to be super boring, nothing special about it at all.
I didn't like Infamous Second Son at all, while I loved Knack especially in Co-Op. I still think Knack is the best exclusive game on the PS4. I feel that Second Son was just lacking alot of what made the previous games fun, especially Infamous 2. Hopefully now that they got the engine running we'll be able to get a better Infamous game since the'll have more to time to work on it and actually create some content for the open world they made. Second Son was literally story missions in an open world. Knack just was so much fun playing Co-OP with a friend and for me I just found it much more fun experience than Infamous, and it's why I hope that someday we'll get a Knack 2 with some actual variety and more depth to the combat. Knack has the potential to become very good with more time put into it.
Speaking of knack, all the ppl who talk shit about knack but then beg for it month after month on ps+ are complete assholes. This isnt even me trying to ignite the knack defense force. You just dont walk into a butcher shop and talk shit about the meat but then clamor for the scraps thrown away at the end of the night
Speaking of ps+, it brings about the most inflated sense of entitlement that I've seen. "Wtf ps+ is offering me all these games that i already own/bought/played from when they originally released?! This is another shitty month for ps+. This service sucks"
Similarly i think the notion of "I'm mildly interested in this game but i think I'll wait til i get it free on ps+" is damaging to the industry as a whole
Speaking of ps+, it brings about the most inflated sense of entitlement that I've seen. "Wtf ps+ is offering me all these games that i already own/bought/played from when they originally released?! This is another shitty month for ps+. This service sucks"
Similarly i think the notion of "I'm mildly interested in this game but i think I'll wait til i get it free on ps+" is damaging to the industry as a whole
Whiteblade999
Member
A couple:
-I hate achievements, in fact I think they have ruined games to a degree. Achievements are thrown in at pointless story intervals for no other reason then to have a visible way to track progress and to give false replay value. If I do something amazing in a game, then I know and not because a popup said so.
-I hate Microsoft. Once upon a time they supported PC gaming. Then they decided to make money from the console market and released the Xbox. This is a great business decision and I had no problem with this. What I had a problem with was gutting all their PC studios and then actively trying to kill PC gaming with the most intrusive DRM method I've ever seen outside of Starforce.
-I hate achievements, in fact I think they have ruined games to a degree. Achievements are thrown in at pointless story intervals for no other reason then to have a visible way to track progress and to give false replay value. If I do something amazing in a game, then I know and not because a popup said so.
-I hate Microsoft. Once upon a time they supported PC gaming. Then they decided to make money from the console market and released the Xbox. This is a great business decision and I had no problem with this. What I had a problem with was gutting all their PC studios and then actively trying to kill PC gaming with the most intrusive DRM method I've ever seen outside of Starforce.
I'm not so sure either of those are "controversial" opinions. At least on GAF...
OT: I think the Xbox One has been the better current gen console for 2014 given the exclusives.
I actually like the concept of achievements.
When implemented properly, in a creative way (tip: "completed the tutorial" is anything but creative) they can be an incentive to try some cool or fun things - I had lots of fun with some of the achievements in Vanquish, for instance, as they encouraged me to play more aggressively and step out of my comfort zone with my playstyle.
And I sorta like the idea of my progress with a game being visible to others, though arbitrary story-related achievements are probably a crappy way of showing that. It's just this little social thing, that I can see that a friend of mine is this far into a game I already played, so I know I can mention some parts of the game to them without spoiling stuff. Kinda neat.
Though all the grindy, random, pointless, or multiplayer-oriented achievements can go die in a fire.
oh yeah, symmetry my friend symmetry.
weird word that is, keep thinking I misspelled it....mis-spelled, mispelled. haha
yes the lastest woflenstein did a great job of making me play with different stlyes of gameplay. but I still hate platinum trophies.....probably because I dont have any... just like 4000 other ones.
you should see a doctor... just in case you have a lobotomy or something you know, just in case.
case in point:
Wolfenstien-Boarderlands
Boishock-Battlefield
Killzone-Halo
COD-Dishonered
HL2-Destiny
Ok I'm done.
CrossTrigger
Member
Chrono Cross made 100% perfect sense and those who found it convoluted and confusing just didn't pay enough attention.
Nikodemos
Member
The only 'j-style' RPG that didn't have overly melodramatic and/or simplistic (my disdain for the stereotypical "hot-blooded hero" is astronomical) dialogue was Anachronox.
Moving onwards, I like the UFO: After-something series by Altar and believe they were unfairly dismissed.
flatearthpandas
Member
I play JRPGs almost exclusively. I also let the voice actors finish talking before moving to the next line or read all the text if it isn't voiced. You develop coping mechanisms.
I'm usually browsing the internet during cutscenes or extended dialogue and trusting I'll notice if they say anything interesting or important (almost never). If it goes on too long, or happens too frequently, I'll sometimes talk over them MST3K-style. When that gets old, I will complain out loud about how stupid the dialogue is.
Bravely Default, I honestly had to put down in disgust quite a few times.
Should probably just start skipping dialogue.
boybrushdRED
Member
Final fantasy XII is my favorite FF title, and for me, it is the best PS2 game ever.
-Playstation All Stars Battle Royale is a great game.
-Zelda games are boring.
-Half-Life 2 has not aged well.
-Final Fantasy XII is a good game.
-Xbox one is a good console.
-I love the Playstation Vita and find many people are ignorant about it and the amount of games it really has.
-I feel the same way about the Wii U, it is just as good as the Wii and Gamecube.
-Even though most of the games are similar the Call of Duty games are still good.
-Gamecube controller sucks.
-Dualshock controller is best controller.
-Zelda games are boring.
-Half-Life 2 has not aged well.
-Final Fantasy XII is a good game.
-Xbox one is a good console.
-I love the Playstation Vita and find many people are ignorant about it and the amount of games it really has.
-I feel the same way about the Wii U, it is just as good as the Wii and Gamecube.
-Even though most of the games are similar the Call of Duty games are still good.
-Gamecube controller sucks.
-Dualshock controller is best controller.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
We don't know yet. Zelda fandom operates on the same principle as Schrodinger's Cat. Every opinion is simultaneously controversial and accepted wisdom until the next console Zelda is released.
I wouldn't call dishonored a FPS.
