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[CriginsMcJuggs]

i'm getting a more consistent performance and 0 ctd's since the new patch, but my experience has been pretty dire tonight. why?

l33t unlocks.

i have zero interest in playing a game which is engineered for the immersive, experiential qualities that ro2 so aspires to, wherein every other soldier is carrying some l33t new experimental superweapon. i'll let the fact slide that the mkb. 42 was never at stalingrad in return for some acknowledgement of just how rare a weapon this should be. give it a special "elite assault" class or something.

avts, svts, gewehr rifles, mkb. 42 rifles....these should all be elite weaponry, deployed to only the very finest players within that play session (how TW originally pitched the "hero" system, whereby the best performing players would be invited to per-session/round elite roles). even the regular assault weaponry should be more specialised in its deployment. tearing through previously tooth-and-nail balanced maps with a squad of assault rifle wielding commandos just feels so fucking wrong.

this was a battle (war, even) fought overwhelmingly by regular infantry armed with bolt action rifles. i feel like tripwire have fallen victim to their own most paranoid thoughts about what needs to be done to assure commercial success, and feel a need to offer up the assault rifle run-n-gun experience for all those who so desire it; to the detriment of authenticity, balance, immersion and idiosyncrasy.

there are a myriad of ways for tripwire to correct this, should they recognise it as a problem. until then, ro2 will only ever live in the shadow of its own greatness.

i like the ones that fire fast

Edit: But really I'm not too worried about this, seems like getting the jump on the opponent is more important than the gun most of the time

 

[Dakota47]

same.

Same here. More here.

 

[shintoki]

I for one, love the bolt action rifle. Normally one clean shot will put another down, 2 for good cause. The machine guns, repeating rifles, and others really ruin the mood. When players die in 1-2 hits and they have 7-9 people on the other team with auto weaponary. It losses a lot of the fun.

 

[Corky]

What does manual bolting do?

 

[Sober]

What does manual bolting do?

Instead of shot->bolt in one click, you have to press fire again to bolt before you can fire another shot.

 

[Corky]

Instead of shot->bolt in one click, you have to press fire again to bolt before you can fire another shot.

Ah, that's cool. I should turn it on

 

[Sober]

I think they are pushing out another update to fix the not-starting problem.

 

[Nemic77]

Played one match earlier today where I was up against a player inside a russian tank which had 0 ping and killed me almost instantly when I got it in sight... :s

What's up with that? Bot or something? Didn't look like it from the name and the way it moved around...

 

[Dakota47]

I think they are pushing out another update to fix the not-starting problem.

It doesn't seem to fix it though, judging by the forums.

 

[Ardenyal]

Played one match earlier today where I was up against a player inside a russian tank which had 0 ping and killed me almost instantly when I got it in sight... :s

What's up with that? Bot or something? Didn't look like it from the name and the way it moved around...

Wouldn't be surprised if it was wallhack/aimbot. I got shot twice through a closed off window today, or is there a glitch that lets you hug a wall and see through?

 

[Sober]

It doesn't seem to fix it though, judging by the forums.

Just updated, working fine for me.

Are the unlocks broke or something still? Things like the Mosin have "bayonet" locked yet I always spawn with em on Ranked servers.

 

[Dakota47]

Just updated, working fine for me.

Are the unlocks broke or something still? Things like the Mosin have "bayonet" locked yet I always spawn with em on Ranked servers.

Yup, it's all running well again for me as well.

Dunno about the unlocks but just now I played for about half an hour with the day one Sturmgewehr unlock and it is seriously overpowered, especially in close quarters. You can fire off a four or five round burst before the Ruskis can even react.

 

[Phife Dawg]

Wouldn't be surprised if it was wallhack/aimbot. I got shot twice through a closed off window today, or is there a glitch that lets you hug a wall and see through?

He probably saw your head peeking out once. I did my fair share of through the wall killing that way. Most people will stay rather immobile, making it easy.

 

[subversus]

I don't know why people bitch that the game is hard. It's totally not. I kill more people than people kill me and I play as a machinegunner or an engineer. I'm saying this not to boast (capping objectives brings you more points anyway) but just to show that you don't need to play as a sniper in this game to rack up kills.

About camping - it's not camping, it's strategic positioning behind the cover to get grasp of the situation and then slowly advancing further. You camp because you need to survive. Since the game is closer to a military simulator than your average shooter, camping is a must as in real military action. I'm tired of arcade shooters, so I think I'll be playing this a lot. I must find a good community because the game must be much better with a good squad on skype.

Graphics are good and they serve their purpose very well btw. I can see why they're taxing - huge, pretty detailed environments.

Fighting a tank is a real challenge. You can break its tracks with a grenade to make it stop by the way. I think it's a nice touch. The only thing I need to know is how to turn objectives on screen, because I check map every time I need to find them. also I'm level 3 (honor 3 or whatever) currently, when can I expect first unlocks?

 

[Llyranor]

The only thing I need to know is how to turn objectives on screen, because I check map every time I need to find them.

Hold T

 

[Dakota47]

Hold T

And to give another tip: hold R to check your ammo. Make sure you're in a safe spot though.

 

[Sober]

What I find weird (or is a bug?) is that the sprint meter doesn't appear on the HUD when you are sprinting. Blah blah blah realism, etc ... if so, then why even have a bar at all? Shouldn't it appear when the hud element is animating? Just find it odd.

And to give another tip: hold R to check your ammo. Make sure you're in a safe spot though.

I just had a hilarious death because of that. I pick up an SVT40, assume it's loaded then run around. I more or less get the drop of a German and pull the sights up, only to be greeted by the sounds of "click click click" ... empty weapon. I died.

 

[Dakota47]

What I find weird (or is a bug?) is that the sprint meter doesn't appear on the HUD when you are sprinting. Blah blah blah realism, etc ... if so, then why even have a bar at all? Shouldn't it appear when the hud element is animating? Just find it odd.

It shows up at key points I think. Half way empty and 25%.

 

[Nelo Ice]

I don't know why people bitch that the game is hard. It's totally not. I kill more people than people kill me and I play as a machinegunner or an engineer. I'm saying this not to boast (capping objectives brings you more points anyway) but just to show that you don't need to play as a sniper in this game to rack up kills.

About camping - it's not camping, it's strategic positioning behind the cover to get grasp of the situation and then slowly advancing further. You camp because you need to survive. Since the game is closer to a military simulator than your average shooter, camping is a must as in real military action. I'm tired of arcade shooters, so I think I'll be playing this a lot. I must find a good community because the game must be much better with a good squad on skype.

Graphics are good and they serve their purpose very well btw. I can see why they're taxing - huge, pretty detailed environments.

Fighting a tank is a real challenge. You can break its tracks with a grenade to make it stop by the way. I think it's a nice touch. The only thing I need to know is how to turn objectives on screen, because I check map every time I need to find them. also I'm level 3 (honor 3 or whatever) currently, when can I expect first unlocks?

press T for tactical view it'll show u where all the objectives are and other info.

 

[RedSwirl]

So is there no way for me to play this game before buying it at full price? I'm interested but haven't really played this type of game a lot.

 

[mojiimbo]

So is there no way for me to play this game before buying it at full price? I'm interested but haven't really played this type of game a lot.

I read here that they said they were going to do a free weekend sometime soon(?) after launch, which was a bit odd to me since that indicates that it'll probably also be on sale. Maybe they'll just reinstate the small discount they offered for preorders. They'll also be giving owners of the game guest passes to give out, I believe.

 

[TheExodu5]

I would expect it to be a few months. They'd want to iron out the stat tracking issues, as well as the performance issues before they have a free weekend, I'd think.

 

[speedpop]

So is there no way for me to play this game before buying it at full price? I'm interested but haven't really played this type of game a lot.

Try and wait for a free weekend if you're concerned about it. The game's community won't die out so you won't be at a disadvantage if you do take the plunge at a later date.

 

[subversus]

I wouldn't recommend getting this game without playing it first. It's not for everyone and differs from all shooters on the market drastically even though it looks like them.

 

[RibbedHero]

What's the reason for the dearth of reviews? The only review from a reasonable source is the Gamespy review.

 

[subversus]

What's the reason for the dearth of reviews? The only review from a reasonable source is the Gamespy review.

launch issues, a low-profile game, not many reviewers are able to stomach such gameplay.

 

[rabhw]

Really hard to enjoy this game when it keeps crashing to desktop every 10 - 15 minutes...

The patch clearly didn't fix whatever it is that's causing my crash!

 

[Sinatar]

What's the reason for the dearth of reviews? The only review from a reasonable source is the Gamespy review.

They didn't pay off the big sites with marketing dollars to get their game reviewed.

 

[Relax.MX]

They didn't pay off the big sites with marketing dollars to get their game reviewed.

Or maybe they have not been able to make it work like many others

Spoiler

Troll

 

[subversus]

They didn't pay off the big sites with marketing dollars to get their game reviewed.

but they reviewed Killing Floor pretty fast and favourably.

edit: another patch is going. Love Tripwire.

 

[Joe Molotov]

What's the reason for the dearth of reviews? The only review from a reasonable source is the Gamespy review.

Game's too hard, graphics are meh. 6/10
~*Insert mainstream review site here*

 

[AndyMoogle]

I just got another patch. It's the third one today.

 

[Phife Dawg]

So I tried it out for a bit and WOW is the MKb an imbalanced überweapon - holy crap! Semi auto on long rages, full auto on short, totally manageable recoil, insane stopping power and penetration at mid ranges. LOL! I hope they patch this asap. Was getting slaughtered as allies because everyone and their mother was sporting one of these bad boys. Hilarious.

AVT on the other hand is totally useless in full auto mode, recoils like a bitch and is empty in two bursts.

 

[Weenerz]

Before leaving for work today, I tried to log onto a server and it force closed. Restarted and same deal. Did they fix that with one of the 500 patches today or is that still an issue? This is really messy.

 

[Sethos]

What a mess. Despite all my praise, I'm letting the waters calm before I really start playing it -- I'd hate to run into a frustrating experience and deal with the 500 patches.

 

[shintoki]

They didn't pay off the big sites with marketing dollars to get their game reviewed.

I think a 5 or 6 is deserving. The game has some nasty technical and balance issues now, but nothing that a few months of patches can't fix. Where its score will most likely move up.

Of course I don't believe ones like COD, Uncharted, or Halo are worth the 8 or 9's either.

 

[vocab]

Biggest complaints aside from the performance:

1) Either too bright or Too dark. Visually. Dark spots are way too dark, and people can sit on the shadows, and I can't see them. It's like de_train. Awful awful.
2) Going into a building, the lighting gets a little brighter for no reason. Is this some sort of hidden bloom option?
3) Name tags will not show up at certain distances. I Tked someone because 1) their name tag did not show up, and B) he was looking at me from a position that was definitely in an enemy favored spot.
4) Allies seemed to get fucked badly. Always a uphill battle, and their weaponry against MP40/44's are shit. PPSHUSH is decent, but do shit at a distance.
5) Map balance seems out of wack.
6) DOF DOF DOF.
7) achievements are bugged

 

[subversus]

Biggest complaints aside from the performance:

1) Either too bright or Too dark. Visually. Dark spots are way too dark, and people can sit on the shadows, and I can't see them. It's like de_train. Awful awful.
2) Going into a building, the lighting gets a little brighter for no reason. Is this some sort of hidden bloom option?
3) Name tags will not show up at certain distances. I Tked someone because 1) their name tag did not show up, and B) he was looking at me from a position that was definitely in an enemy favored spot.
4) Allies seemed to get fucked badly. Always a uphill battle, and their weaponry against MP40/44's. Wheres my bar, or thompson god damnit.
5) Map balance seems out of wack.
6) DOF DOF DOF.
7) achievements are bugged

1)The way it's meant to be.
2)Strange, I experienced nothing like this. Poor implementation of HDR most likely.
3)They shouldn't. Don't kill people until you're sure. It's not a twitch shooter.

 

[XANDER CAGE]

What's the reason for the dearth of reviews? The only review from a reasonable source is the Gamespy review.

Writers like me got our review codes the day of release, so I'm assuming that people are taking the time to learn, play, and experience the game fully before writing anything. That's what I'm trying to do, at least.

 

[Sober]

The game runs a bit better if I turn off things like DOF, bloom etc. I haven't noticed the "HDR" effect from going from outdoors to indoors probably because of that.

 

[speedpop]

People complaining that the game is too buggy, people complaining that there are too many patches.

 

[Salsa]

who the fuck needs that marksman scope!


amazing how i can still pull this off with 200+ ping. Netcode is really solid.

 

[shintoki]

Had a pretty great spree in a round and ended up 3rd in the game. Basically I got in a really nasty spot and kept laying down suppression fire by one of their cover holes. Ended up with 26kills and a spree of about 14 before they finally got me out of our defenders' point.

When the game actually works, I'm really loving it.

Finished up Dungeon Siege III, so I'll probably be playing it more too.

 

[XANDER CAGE]

Why would you kill nude men from that far away? D:

 

[Salsa]

Why would you kill nude men from that far away? D:

people running around in the nude need to die

 

[Salsa]

Also where's the cheapest place to buy it right now?

im trying to turn over a friend who wants to get BF3 but really enjoys realism, so im telling him he should go with this and save some money, but he wont buy it for the current price.. halp

 

[Snuggles]

Also where's the cheapest place to buy it right now?

im trying to turn over a friend who wants to get BF3 but really enjoys realism, so im telling him he should go with this and save some money, but he wont buy it for the current price.. halp

WORLD-ATWAR-20PEC is supposed to take 20% off war-themed games on GreenManGaming, it's worth a shot.

 

[Sober]

GMG, probably. There is a 20% code for it, and I think the Deluxe edition might still have the 15% off too (the standard lost it from today I think; bought the standard with the 15% discount last night)

 

[Semblance]

It's $24 at GetGamesGo.

 

[mojiimbo]

Also where's the cheapest place to buy it right now?

im trying to turn over a friend who wants to get BF3 but really enjoys realism, so im telling him he should go with this and save some money, but he wont buy it for the current price.. halp

http://www.getgamesgo.com/product/red-orchestra-2-heroes-of-stalingrad

They were giving out Deluxe keys a few days ago but I'm not sure if they've run out.