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Reddit bans two prominent alt-right subreddits

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legacyzero

Banned
In the NAZI PUNCHIN BIDNESS

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NimbusD

Member
Was banned from The_donald for one comment that honestly wasnt even that challenging (I like to look at the subreddit sometimes just to see the mental gymnastics people enjoy doing to spin the bad news that surrounds Trump), it was something along the lines of "actually that makes sense" to something they made sound like liberals were being hypocrytical.

Anyway, my point being, I can't believe Reddit allows communities like that, that are so interested in being outward influencing towards the rest of the site's communities, but so closed when it comes to anyone even being a sliver off of their hive-mind hype-train. It's only going to lead to bad things, even if it weren't centered around misogynistic, racist and xenophobic speech and practices. Let that shit stay on 4chan and the like where it belongs. At least there you wouldn't be banned for calling them out on bullshit.
 
completely and utterly incorrect, especially on private sites.
Let me amend my statement then.

They're entitled to their free speech AND if Reddit bans them, there goes a significant chunk of their userbase. It's the same problem Twitter has, where they can ban all the anime avatar white nationalists but that only cuts into their profit margin for no real reason. Of course, now Twitter is facing the repercussions of that with no one willing to buy a platform of harassment.
 
Came across this guy on Reddit the other day.
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It's sad how common I see those types of people on there.

See no one would have a problem if they picked a town and grew it to be their haven. The problem is that isn't what they want. They want the US from coast to coast to be the White Nationalist Haven. That shit ain't gonna fly.
 
Let me amend my statement then.

They're entitled to their free speech AND if Reddit bans them, there goes a significant chunk of their userbase. It's the same problem Twitter has, where they can ban all the anime avatar white nationalists but that only cuts into their profit margin for no real reason. Of course, now Twitter is facing the repercussions of that with no one willing to buy a platform of harassment.

again no, nazis don't deserve free speech.
 

Toxi

Banned
It’s unclear right now who specifically was doxed, but chatter on Reddit alternative Voat suggests it was the man who punched alt-right figurehead Richard Spencer.
Looks like some other people could use a punch in the face.
 

ryseing

Member
/r/altright was a legitimate Nazi shithole, so it was about time those fuckers got banned.

/r/The_Donald isn't getting banned guys. The mods over there have carefully toed the line.
 
Let me amend my statement then.

They're entitled to their free speech AND if Reddit bans them, there goes a significant chunk of their userbase. It's the same problem Twitter has, where they can ban all the anime avatar white nationalists but that only cuts into their profit margin for no real reason. Of course, now Twitter is facing the repercussions of that with no one willing to buy a platform of harassment.

How does getting banned from a private website conflict with free speech?

The first amendment is
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

I don't see anything in the text that prevents a private site from banning people.
 

BiggNife

Member
I mean, it's better than nothing, but as long as /r/the_donald exists then the toxicity that's plagued reddit recently is just going to keep getting worse.

And Reddit knows that they'll lose a lot of ad revenue to Voat if they do it so they won't.

It's a shame.
 

Battlechili

Banned
i suspect they harbor the same beliefs.

they had their opportunity to avoid letting the site turn into a white supremacist site but noooo my free speech1!!
Reddit is predominately left ideologically though. It was (and still is to some degree) the site pushing Bernie Sanders the hardest, and its also the site where Jill Stein herself did an AMA on which was semi-successful
 

studyguy

Member
The greatest irony is that they have arguably the largest group of knuckleheads outside of /pol/ or stormfront congregating in /r/the_donald literally laughing their asses off at the modposts about inclusion after the Muslim ban. A site that supposedly cherishes inclusion but won't lift a finger to stop bold faced hatred till it slaps them in the face through bad press.

Whatever dude.
 

mo60

Member
holy shit just ban the donald already this is ridiculous

They aren't going to get rid of that subreddit unless they do something that is explicity against the reddit rules.r/the_donald is eventually going to implode on it's own anyway.
 
Reddit is predominately leftist though. It was (and still is to some degree) the site pushing Bernie Sanders the hardest, and its also the site where Jill Stein herself did an AMA on which was semi-successful

the same bernie or bustrers that ended up becoming trump voters?

yeah reddit is as left as democrats in the US.
 
I mean, it's the free speech argument and the slippery slope. Yes, they're garbage but they're entitled to their free discussion.There's also the fact that once they're banned, the cockroaches will just split up and flee to different "special snowflake" zones, making it harder to keep track of them.

It's a thorny problem that can't really be solved.

So at no point do you draw a line?

(aside from ignoring the fact that Reddit is under no obligation to give these guys a platform)
 
right action weak ass reason.

they need a new category for banning reddits:

continuous promulgation of hatred for, at the bare minimum, an entire religion or an entire people.
 

rjinaz

Member
the same bernie or bustrers that ended up becoming trump voters?

yeah reddit is as left as democrats in the US.

Yep. The people that were Bernie supporters on the reddit threw out a lot of racist bullshit and many turned into Trump supporters in the end, some even actively despising Sanders and calling him a traitor. Left my ass. They just wanted the system shook up, it had nothing to do with the Left. As a Bernie supporter I refused to go there.
 

AlphaDump

Gold Member
Twitter and reddit are basically fanning these fires all over the world and are doing nothing to stop it.


It is actually kind of infuriating to think about.
 

Apathy

Member
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As a non-American, the "I have the right to express my opinion" shtick grows old really fast.
Yes you are entitled to your opinion, that doesn't mean it's an opinion worth sharing.

I am quite a strong supporter of freedom of speech, the difference is that I know that being online like on reddit, they have their own rules where freedom of speech isn't protected. In the same way that a private club can invite whomever they want, I can't get upset over it, but I can call them out. I don't expect them to change but I will damn make sure people know how fucked up they are.

If racists want to be giant racists in the open, go for it, but I will ridicule and mock them and troll them myself, with zero issues about hurting their sensitive little feelings. If reddit decides to ban them or someplace like here on gaf wants to ban those fools, 100% up to them and I am fine either way.
 

caliph95

Member
It sounds like these subs were banned for doxxing though.

Wasn't the_donald caught breaking the rules a lot of times. It seems like besides a lot of the reddit hating trump another issue with the non trump redditors how the donald was able to get away with stuff and breaking rules like brigading.
 

Polari

Member
Reddit is predominately left ideologically though. It was (and still is to some degree) the site pushing Bernie Sanders the hardest, and its also the site where Jill Stein herself did an AMA on which was semi-successful

I'd say more libertarian, at least in the way the site has been moderated. Some pretty offensive subs like /r/picturesofdeadkids were are around for a long time and became pretty prominent before getting banned (tbh I'm not sure that one has been banned even now).
 

Tacitus_

Member
You guys are confusing Reddits free speech vs a government guaranteed free speech. It is the site that is guaranteeing it, not any government. This is why they drag their feet on banning these shit holes.
 

vityaz

Member
I appears there was a "bounty hunter" site on which they wanted information to identify (dox) the guy who punched that Spencer neo-nazi.

The admins didn't ban the site, they marked it for auto-spam. If a site is banned, you cannot post it. But if it's auto-spammed, it can be posted, and the moderators of the subreddit can approve it.

People were posting it to these subs, and their mods were approving it.

Honeypot operation by the admins? :D
 

tuxfool

Banned
Reddit is predominately left ideologically though. It was (and still is to some degree) the site pushing Bernie Sanders the hardest, and its also the site where Jill Stein herself did an AMA on which was semi-successful

If you mean getting ripped to shreds as being successful, I don't want to see failure.
 

muu

Member
r/conspiracy's been full-on altright for a while. Considering the name you'd think there would be some analysis of trump's shenanigans but it's all been WE MUST INVESTIGATE PIZZAGATE

oh yeah, and the_donald
 

RinsFury

Member
I appears there was a "bounty hunter" site on which they wanted information to identify (dox) the guy who punched that Spencer neo-nazi.

The admins didn't ban the site, they marked it for auto-spam. If a site is banned, you cannot post it. But if it's auto-spammed, it can be posted, and the moderators of the subreddit can approve it.

People were posting it to these subs, and their mods were approving it.

Honeypot operation by the admins? :D

Maybe they can try the same with the_cheeto? Set a trap for those pieces of shit.
 
Why does Reddit take forever to delete these types of garbage subreddits? And there's still plenty more
Because the social sites like Reddit and Twitter were all conceptualized by people who were hard on that Silicon Valley flavor of libertarian-ism.

In the past, Reddit has had to be exposed and yelled at in order to remove some heinous shit, like childporn subreddits. It wasn't until relatively recently that they started coming to the realization that admins of discussion forums already did ages ago: taking a lax approach to what type of conduct is allowed on your site causes the community to go to shit. You should look up the Ellen Pao debacle, it was a real doozy.

How did they even find out who punched Spencer?

I really hope that part isn't true.
 

Beartruck

Member
Why does Reddit take forever to delete these types of garbage subreddits? And there's still plenty more

They only do it when they break the TOS via doxxing other users or other malicious shit. Basically they don't care what you do or say as long as it doesn't hurt other users, so it's purely a business movie, not a decency move.
 
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