Reddit [verified] User shares NX info: x86 Architecture, Second screen support etc.

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Does Nintendo even have a press conference this year or just a booth?
For the last three years, Nintendo has done pre-recorded Digital Events (with some Directs beforehand, such as the Smash Direct & the Mini-Direct) alongside the Treehouse Live stream from the E3 show floor. If Nintendo's doing a live press conference, we won't know until around mid-May.

Though if Nintendo reveals the NX device(s) before E3, it'd allow for stuff like the Smash Direct to be a thing (assuming that there's an NX Platform port of Smash 4) without spoiling a potential surprise.
 
I don't think the ps4k will have much effect on the NX as the only selling point is graphics. I guess Nintendo can't use 'most powerful console ever' in their marketing if that was their original plan but it will run third party games at least as well as the current twins.

NX games should look amazing if it really is slightly above ps4 especially first party, and if the brand new concept is appealing and it's priced right it should at least do much better than wii u.
 
I don't think the ps4k will have much effect on the NX as the only selling point is graphics. I guess Nintendo can't use 'most powerful console ever' in their marketing if that was their original plan but it will run third party games at least as well as the current twins.

NX games should look amazing if it really is slightly above ps4 especially first party, and if the brand new concept is appealing and it's priced right it should at least do much better than wii u.
Yeah and let's not forget the PS4K is rumoured to only be increasing the GPU and RAM pool, the CPU seems to be staying the same, so if the nx CPU surpasses vanilla ps4 than it'll theoretically have a better CPU than the PS4K as well.
 
Yeah and let's not forget the PS4K is rumoured to only be increasing the GPU and RAM pool, the CPU seems to be staying the same, so if the nx CPU surpasses vanilla ps4 than it'll theoretically have a better CPU than the PS4K as well.
But the NX Console likely won't pass up the PS4K in the GPU & RAM department. Plus, if I recall, Sony is rumored to be considering a stronger CPU, but it would mean a $100 price hike for the PS4K.
 
Everyone has forgotten this patent:

http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/is-this-crazy-nintendo-patent-for-nx-3d-on-any-tv.454652409/

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Could be perfect as replacement for VR and still be social.

It does allot more than VR does when reading the patent.

I rather think if nintendo will choose to do some VR stuff, they will take this approach.
 
Has anything about Nintendo consoles ever leaked besides the usual USA today/Nikkei early news stories?

Yeah, WiiU, Wii and 3DS got loads of leaks - mostly from western studio's.
Ubisoft France was known to be the source for a lot of those leaks + some patents.

We knew it would be around x360 powered and the controller would have a touchscreen for instance. I think the Wii U gamepad was actually patented right around the time Wii got released, so years before wii u.
 
Everyone has forgotten this patent:

http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/is-this-crazy-nintendo-patent-for-nx-3d-on-any-tv.454652409/

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Could be perfect as replacement for VR and still be social.

It does allot more than VR does when reading the patent.

I rather think if nintendo will choose to do some VR stuff, they will take this approach.

Holy moly this is crazy. I don't ever remember anybody talking about this patent.

Man I'm starting to hope one of these parents are true especially this one because Nintendo could pull it off.
 
The only reason to get a ps4k is that it's a ps4 with better graphics. From what we currently know about it, off course that could change.

Yeah. There will be a big improvement with graphics but I'm hoping with a better CPU there will be more environment interaction and improvements to the A.I.

That could also be said for the NX if it's a home console. Basically a much more capable WiiU.
 
I do wonder how much damage these fake rumours are for Nintendo. From the fake controller to these fake specs, it can't be good for them to wait 3 more months to reveals it?
 

Yes, but that one looked like crap. It was based on wii-fit I think.
This one is a different story, specially because VR is coming.

In many ways it's much better than VR for console speaking. Pc is a different story:

What it can do:



CLAIMS:
It would work on any standard TV (not 3DS-related)
The exemplary illustrative non-limiting technology herein enables 3D viewing on conventional 2D displays such as home television sets by tracking a person's viewpoint. Detecting a player's viewpoint movement to change the viewing of the displayed object gives the illusion that the object is physically present in three-dimensional space.

Game characters would be aware of your presence in the room
[0009] In other illustrative non-limiting implementations, additional game play capabilities are enabled to e.g., moving the user's head and body to position the eye as a natural motion to seeing 3D objects. This allows participating game players to for example dodge game objects, and to permit virtual game characters to be "aware" of the human game player's location and/or presence.

There may be some Augmented Reality functions
[0096] Augmented Reality. Some synthetic picture intermixed with the real world can be used. This is a quick and realistic possibility to e.g., project certain types of images such as robots or to play a chess game. If we can locate in the real world where a planar surface is, we could each look through this object and see the same virtual object augmented into the real world. A display that is 50% real world, 50% synthetic, with positioning techniques and way to possibly detect motion or position is possible.

Some kind of multiplayer option... I don't even know
[0098] It is possible to Invite your Curiosity by displaying the "inside" image on a screen that everyone could see. One way: cupped mirror could be half-reflective, one-way so observers can see an image of what the user is seeing. This gets a larger group involvement. Another way is to provide multiple head sets.

Other external stimuli could make it even more believable... Smell-O-Vision?
[0099] Enhancing the VR experience Additional output devices that enhance the experience can be provided. For example, we can put light out that is correlated to the image to provide "ultra wide field of view correlated lighting." Given that your eye does not see clearly in the periphery, this could still be useful and interesting.
[0100] Additionally, smell is a very strong sense. There may be some ways to produce aromas for a very strong experience.
[0101] Virtual wind could enhance the experience.
[0102] Temperature: blowing cool air on your face.

They might have solved headache problems
Lots of folks in the past require the users to focus far field and close up, but this can cause headaches. We can stay on one side of the focal point cone, to provide higher level of comfort.

It could detect your emotions
[0104] Detect Emotions via monitoring mental state. Brain wave detection, detect eye movement, heart rate monitor or the like can be used. If we provide goggles, we can also provide detectors (electrodes) fairly easily.
 
I don't think the ps4k will have much effect on the NX as the only selling point is graphics. I guess Nintendo can't use 'most powerful console ever' in their marketing if that was their original plan but it will run third party games at least as well as the current twins.

NX games should look amazing if it really is slightly above ps4 especially first party, and if the brand new concept is appealing and it's priced right it should at least do much better than wii u.

Probably not, but there still a risk is that Sony could nail the unveiling and steal attention, especially if Nintendo does want to use power as a selling point (of course it won't be the only selling point but it would still hurt to lose it). Avoiding a head-to-head can only work in Nintendo's favour (at worst, it'd make no difference).
 
Yeah. There will be a big improvement with graphics but I'm hoping with a better CPU there will be more environment interaction and improvements to the A.I.

That could also be said for the NX if it's a home console. Basically a much more capable WiiU.
I really doubt third party devs will make drastically different skus for games. That would alienate normal ps4 owners and they don't even do that for pc versions currently to my knowledge. I think it will have the same games only they look or run better.
 
I do wonder how much damage these fake rumours are for Nintendo. From the fake controller to these fake specs, it can't be good for them to wait 3 more months to reveals it?
The damage would be a big Zero. Again the mass of casual fans who buy systems don't know anything about this news. This is for us thousands of hardcore who pay attention and even then we've kept ourselves in check especially with the 3D controller fakes.
 
Everyone has forgotten this patent:

http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/is-this-crazy-nintendo-patent-for-nx-3d-on-any-tv.454652409/

ZHMXypA.png


Could be perfect as replacement for VR and still be social.

It does allot more than VR does when reading the patent.

I rather think if nintendo will choose to do some VR stuff, they will take this approach.

Is this patent similar to the concept seen in this video, but uses a camera for head tracking (like the New 3DS super-stable 3D) instead of WiiMote?
 
I hope Nintendo announces the system before e3 via direct. Then on e3, they can offer a more detailed look at the system , and the games.

I really doubt third party devs will make drastically different skus for games. That would alienate normal ps4 owners and they don't even do that for pc versions currently to my knowledge. I think it will have the same games only they look or run better.
Devs will make use of any available resources. Just look at Hyrule Warriors legends new 3ds vs 3ds. Personally I would call that drastically. Don't forget about the ps4/Xbox.
 
Everyone has forgotten this patent:

http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/is-this-crazy-nintendo-patent-for-nx-3d-on-any-tv.454652409/

ZHMXypA.png


Could be perfect as replacement for VR and still be social.

It does allot more than VR does when reading the patent.

I rather think if nintendo will choose to do some VR stuff, they will take this approach.

Is this patent similar to the concept seen in this video, but uses a camera for head tracking (like the New 3DS super-stable 3D) instead of WiiMote?

Thank you for sharing these two pieces of information, and I don't think there is a thread about the patent on GAF. They are extremely interesting and completely workable without wearing a big screen on your head. It also seems that the tech does not incur high expenditure which is very important to the price of NX.
 
I hope Nintendo announces the system before e3 via direct. Then on e3, they can offer a more detailed look at the system , and the games.


Devs will make use of any available resources. Just look at Hyrule Warriors legends new 3ds vs 3ds. Personally I would call that drastically. Don't forget about the ps4/Xbox.
If you render 2k and upscale to 4K you already spent most of those resources.

And as the difference on hw is big, it's still only framerate. They didn't make better physics or ai.
 
I do wonder how much damage these fake rumours are for Nintendo. From the fake controller to these fake specs, it can't be good for them to wait 3 more months to reveals it?

We've been there already with previous systems.
At the second we get official info, all hoax and crappy false rumours will be forgotten and the actual info discussed instead.
Those are only short-lived amusements for video games forums.
 
We've been there already with previous systems.
At the second we get official info, all hoax and crappy false rumours will be forgotten and the actual info discussed instead.
Those are only short-lived amusements for video games forums.
I'll never understand how some people think this speculation somehow damages Nintendo.
 
I really doubt third party devs will make drastically different skus for games. That would alienate normal ps4 owners and they don't even do that for pc versions currently to my knowledge. I think it will have the same games only they look or run better.

I'm not going to derail this thread by talking about PS4K. We are just going to have to disagree about this item and move on.
 
Thank you for sharing these two pieces of information, and I don't think there is a thread about the patent on GAF. They are extremely interesting and completely workable without wearing a big screen on your head. It also seems that the tech does not incur high expenditure which is very important to the price of NX.

Just fyi, the guy who "invented" this and who you see in this video, was hired by MS to work in kinect.
 
I guess I don't get why people think they would fully reveal NX before E3. It doesn't make sense. What would they talk about at E3?

Weren't PS4 and XBO both unveiled at launch events a few months before E3?

Most of these reddit 'leakers' are really dumb, it's not even entertaining reading their nonsense.
 
Thank you for sharing these two pieces of information, and I don't think there is a thread about the patent on GAF. They are extremely interesting and completely workable without wearing a big screen on your head. It also seems that the tech does not incur high expenditure which is very important to the price of NX.
C'mon man. You know Rösti is gaf's residential sexy Fin 🇫🇮 who covers all things patents.
Rösti;200393394 said:
 
Is the Reddit guy who said the NX is called the Nintendo Extra the same guy who said they're going to announce the event today or tomorrow for an NX Event after SF0 releases?
 
... My 2 cents. I think anyone expecting Nintendo to release some cutting edge hardware that is more powerful then current console hardware is living in a house made of playing cards. Nintendo hasn't released hardware more advanced then any other console maker since the Super Nintendo was introduced.
 
Ha, I thought it was published in 2015 so I only look at the latest search results. Thank you for the link!

Take a second look. The information has been updated. Does this mean the patent has been refiled?

Original:



New: http://appft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-...o.AANM.&p=1&OS=AANM/Nintendo&RS=AANM/Nintendo
Those are two different patents. 14/197831 is for "EYE TRACKING ENABLING 3D VIEWING ON CONVENTIONAL 2D DISPLAY" while 14/878304 is for "TOUCH-CONTROLLED GAME CHARACTER MOTION PROVIDING DYNAMICALLY-POSITIONED VIRTUAL CONTROL PAD". USPTO links for that domain are rarely static, meaning that after x amount of time a link may change to return an entirely different patent. Search always the application or publication number instead.
 
Rösti;200394876 said:
Those are two different patents. 14/197831 is for "EYE TRACKING ENABLING 3D VIEWING ON CONVENTIONAL 2D DISPLAY" while 14/878304 is for "TOUCH-CONTROLLED GAME CHARACTER MOTION PROVIDING DYNAMICALLY-POSITIONED VIRTUAL CONTROL PAD". USPTO links for that domain are rarely static, meaning that after x amount of time a link may change to return an entirely different patent. Search always the application or publication number instead.

I just discovered that... That IGN poster gives the wrong link.

Guess I am too sleepy. I am sorry.
 
Uh, isn't that just 3dtv essentially?

It's allot more than 3d.

Read the list on my post:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=200390556&postcount=2973


- No motion sickness because it doesn't need cross eye effect.
- You can do it with a 2d tv, that means that the rest doesn't need glasses.
- It's cheap to build
- It can also block the rest of the vision outside the TV screen so that you get the feeling that your are in the game.
- It's headtracking, so it will react on your movement and know where you are.
[0099] Enhancing the VR experience Additional output devices that enhance the experience can be provided. For example, we can put light out that is correlated to the image to provide "ultra wide field of view correlated lighting." Given that your eye does not see clearly in the periphery, this could still be useful and interesting.
[0100] Additionally, smell is a very strong sense. There may be some ways to produce aromas for a very strong experience.
[0101] Virtual wind could enhance the experience.
[0102] Temperature: blowing cool air on your face.

Crazy, and i want it :)
 
Is the Reddit guy who said the NX is called the Nintendo Extra the same guy who said they're going to announce the event today or tomorrow for an NX Event after SF0 releases?

If you want people to belive in you, and want attention there has to be some imminent event. When it doesn't happen, you can just make up a reason that it was delayed. Ask every doomsday proclaimer ever.
 
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