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Neuromancer
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bobs99 ... said:
When did this get announced that you can't make gold or onyx commendations in single player? Or did Bungie stealth that in to the update?Photolysis said:
Either way that's complete bullshit. Other than playing through the campaign in co-op with friends I know, the only campaign stuff I do is in single player.
Oh hey in other news I just finished The Fall of Reach, good book even if the ending seemed contradictory to the ending of Halo Reach. Eh. Anyway what's the next best Halo book after that?
Edit: just noticed we've passed the 1/2 way mark!
Devolution said:
That's the story of Invasion. You always read about how Halo fans are more Slayer minded than Objective minded and that's probably true for most of the playlists, but it's an exception with Invasion. What makes it so irritating is that as someone who played Invasion regularly I was aware of the rampant quitting so I would vote for Invasion Slayer rather than regular Invasion and sure enough a few minutes into every game people would start dropping like flies. At the very least with Slayer there is a small possibility of still having a decent match... Hell, it could possibly benefit you if your teammates left. Regular Invasion if your teammates quit? Good luck.
If you voted for something don't be a bitch and quit.
Photolysis
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Neuromancer said:
It must have been changed recently. I noticed I wasn't getting Cr for campaign kills the other day.
I dunno if Bungie are blocking off gold/onxy specifically, or if they've just instead made it so 'custom game' campaign games don't count towards commendations, effectively freezing them at their current progress. Most of my campaign commendations are silver, so it's easy to see how someone could draw the conclusion that gold/onxy are blocked, even if that's not specifically the case.
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So it's for all commendations then? That's even worse. If I can't get any cR for playing the campaign by myself, that would be a real kick in the dick in the balls.Photolysis said:
Photolysis
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Neuromancer said:
Just checked, and commendations seem to be going up - I just killed 1 Elite and it added to the Leadership Element one. But I didn't receive any Cr for it.
No idea if that Gold / Onxy thing is true, and I'm way off being able to check.
Okay, no Cr stops people from farming all day with the target locator (why anyone would give a fuck though, I have no idea, but still), but screws everyone else over.
What is the problem here? I leveled up several campaign commendations today and it was in singleplayer.Photolysis said:
Is it that you don't get cR for a kill in campaign if you have above silver on that commendation? It's been that way for a while, or do you get cR for a kill even above silver if you are playing campaign MM?
Neuromancer
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I don't know. It's really confusing.zam said:
I just don't get what the complaints are about. You can't earn cR for a kill in campaign if the commendation for that kill is above silver. That's the way it's been since release.Neuromancer said:
Do you earn cR for a kill even if the commendation is above silver if you are playing campaign MM as opposed to campaign solo? Or does campaign MM follow the same rules for cR as campaign solo?
Neuromancer
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I thought it was gold. Like I said though, I don't know and I haven't played MM yet.zam said:
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Photolysis
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zam said:
Never heard anything about that.
I played Nightfall in both Campaign and MM just now, and I seem to earn a similar amount of credits each time.
What was weird is that the credits gained seemed really inconsistent. Kill a Grunt and get nothing. Kill another one, seemingly the same rank and I get +2 Cr. Both were killed the same way, so it wasn't style medals, and it wasn't anything like a spree.
Something definitely seems off somewhere, even if the original complaint linked to on HBO is incorrect. (Or perhaps it's an oversight where players quitting out of MM campaign games causes you to stop earning credits).
xxjuicesxx
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Ridiculous gaming right now.
http://events.mlgpro.com/takeovers/procircuit/titles/halo?site_id=mlgpro
Losers bracket final forced into game 11.
http://events.mlgpro.com/takeovers/procircuit/titles/halo?site_id=mlgpro
Losers bracket final forced into game 11.
Was it with the exact same weapon? Also the rank of enemies in campaign seems a little ill-defined, I killed a white ultra elite on normal and he counted as a leader (in the post-game score the leader had the ultra elite icon), I kill the same kind of elite at the same spot in the same level but was playing on heroic, and it counted as a specialist. Grunts and jackals are also harder to tell apart. 2 types of grunts seem to both count as infantry-class.Photolysis said:
Basically the game takes into account what kind of weapon you use to kill an enemy (small arms, automatic, precision, heavy) how you kill it (i.e headshot etc), if you and/or the enemy is in a vehicle at the time and if you got a multi-kill or spree. If it was exactly the same type of enemy on the same difficulty with the same weapon in the exact same manner, and you get cR for one kill and nothing for the other, then yeah, something might be up.
But the HBO-posts seem to be complaining that kills where the connected commendation is above silver doesn't give cR in campaign MM, which is exactly the same as it is in campaign solo, which I don't see what is wrong with that. Campaign MM is under the same rules as Campaign Solo, makes sense. Unless I'm understanding things wrong that is.
xxjuicesxx said:
That match was so nuts. FB almost choked, they should have taken a huge lead and finished it early. That game should not have been that close. I'm looking for FB to shit all over Triggers Down now in the finals. Very exciting Halo 3 taking place.
Kibbles: The Pros played Halo 3 while the Amateurs played in a Reach combine.
Palette Swap
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It was mentioned in the official FAQ. A couple of us complained about it at the time this was put in the FAQ.Photolysis said:
The wording of the FAQ implies the commendation counters will stop while they actually won't, you'll just stop earning points.
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Popeck said:
Additional question: I thought we were getting Volume I which was an update of the previously released Evolutions stories and then getting Volume II which were all new stories? True? Not true?
cuevas. PhD.
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Trasher said:
assist better!
Brolic Gaoler
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Trasher said:
Even the assists are quitting, FFS BUNGLE!
Blue Ninja
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They're apparently splitting the original novel in half to create Volumes 1 and 2. I heard they were adding extra stories to each Volume, but it still seems like an incredibly stupid move on 343's part.darthbob said:
Photolysis
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Palette Swap said:
Thanks for the link. Since that's an aspect of the commendations system I haven't had a chance to criticise yet, I'll do that now:
That's fucking stupid. Why does this system do everything it can to shoehorn you in to multiplayer (or firefight) matchmaking? What is this obsession with dictating how you should play the game?
How did this even make it out the door?
Gently encouraging players to try new modes via challenges is one thing. Forcing them to play certain modes via credit blackmail is completely different.
This "our way or the highway" mentality really needs to go, and quick.
I couldn't say with complete confidence if it was the exact same rank / method of killing, but either way, the system does feel very random. A system that seemingly randomly rewards you is bad.
Perceived randomness is pretty subjective though, when I play campaign I only get credits for a kill if I use a pistol, automatic weapon, precision weapon or grenades. All my other commendations are above silver. I don't see any randomness in that system. If there was actual randomness to the system I would agree that it was bad, but we are talking perceived randomness.Photolysis said:
Edit 2: I think it's more a case of preemptively curtailing people farming the same checkpoint over and over for insane cR amounts. Right now you can only farm up to a certain point. Unfortunate that it is at the cost of people who like playing campaign but don't want to play matchmaking. However I don't see myself playing that much more campaign now that I'm done with my solo legendary playthrough, and all achievements, apart from jumping in to complete daily challenges. I usually play Halo campaigns a couple times through, rarely 1-2 more playthroughs after completing it on legendary, after that I move on to multiplayer which holds my interest for a lot longer. Not a knock on Reach's campaign or any other Halo campaign, after finishing it on legendary I feel that I'm done with it, and that I'm not going to see much more on subsequent playthroughs.Photolysis said:
Edit: MLG stream doesn't seem to be working for me, even after installing their required octoshape plugin, same problem with FF and IE, just says MLG stream loading..
Domino Theory
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Tashi, are you streaming the MLG event? There's no way in hell I'm downloading that Octopussy player or w/e the hell it's called.
xxjuicesxx
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Those assists in H3! Jesus Reach is broken.
here's one stream of the eventDomino Theory said:
Thagomizer
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I've been sitting for almost 5 minutes in a host change screen
what the hell
what the hell
xxjuicesxx
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LAUGHTREY said:
Ahh yes. Since when do you work for Bungie? If nething they would have "by designed" assists just being worth less points in the arena. Not broken the entire system...
LAUGHTREY
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xxjuicesxx said:
:lol
it's not "broken" if the assists are consistent, you just don't agree with how much damage you have to do to get one.
l2terminology.
Lazslo said:
It does mess with your game, especially the controls. I don't know about "allowed" to play Reach but the two tournaments were going on at the same time.
They're going to have a Exhibition pro FFA next tournament too, so there's that.
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