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Report: NX Handheld Dimensions, Layout Info, Lack of Region Lock
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I agree. Nintendo isn't the sort of company who would do that. They always seem to enjoy cutting some corners, so if the screen is 720p then I expect 720p TV output.
Fahzgoolin
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So your implying that the new Zelda will run at a lower res than the WiiU?
If it's 218 mm, that would give you 40mm (4cm) on each side of the screen, since the screen is 138mm wide. The Gamepad is about 255mm wide, so it's definitely possible.
Serenitynow
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Excellent point
PhazonBlazer
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What about the L and R buttons?
RobFox64tm
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I made this mockup a few days ago based on a combination of other mockups I've seen floating around, and while it's probably obsolete at this point, the connectors for the controller pieces shown in the OP have me thinking that I may have been going somewhere with this.
Also still having my doubts on the pieces working like Wiimotes or being turned sideways for multiplayer. I just don't see from the rumors given how you could do that, fit both the bumper and trigger on the back, and make it ergonomic in all three modes of usage.
That said, I'm sure Nintendo could find a way if they end up doing that, but I'm just not able to envision it well.
Looks a lot like the one I made a month or so ago. I really think a center controller piece makes sense. I like that you made the layout more like the Wii U gamepad and not like the 3DS like I did though. Great job!
Receipts.
It doesn't have to be the dock that "does something". It can be very well a power state: power saver (on battery) vs. high performance (plugged in).
You're trolling at this point. You made a wrong assumption, just admit it.
Linkstrikesback
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So you'd end up with the worst of both worlds, a single screen handheld while maintaining the annoying separation between touch interface and TV screen.
Yuck.
I made this mockup a few days ago based on a combination of other mockups I've seen floating around, and while it's probably obsolete at this point, the connectors for the controller pieces shown in the OP have me thinking that I may have been going somewhere with this.
Also still having my doubts on the pieces working like Wiimotes or being turned sideways for multiplayer. I just don't see from the rumors given how you could do that, fit both the bumper and trigger on the back, and make it ergonomic in all three modes of usage.
That said, I'm sure Nintendo could find a way if they end up doing that, but I'm just not able to envision it well.
I like this. Scrap the idea of controllers working as individual controllers sideways. Also this will allow Nintendo to have a cheaper product as no individual batteries for each controller attachment. The centre piece can also be used standalone as some sort of remote control for standard media features and browsing the os.
B
bomb
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The NX dev kit is wider but ~20% smaller than the WiiU gamepad.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I made this mockup a few days ago based on a combination of other mockups I've seen floating around, and while it's probably obsolete at this point, the connectors for the controller pieces shown in the OP have me thinking that I may have been going somewhere with this.
Also still having my doubts on the pieces working like Wiimotes or being turned sideways for multiplayer. I just don't see from the rumors given how you could do that, fit both the bumper and trigger on the back, and make it ergonomic in all three modes of usage.
That said, I'm sure Nintendo could find a way if they end up doing that, but I'm just not able to envision it well.
You did pretty good job with the concept art. It looks pretty good. Can't wait for the reveal.
Amazing how some people still don't seem to get this. My y2k laptop worked like this with "speedstepping" to save power.
I think BOTW is 720p on Wii U as well, so in that case they'd be the same.
I made this mockup a few days ago based on a combination of other mockups I've seen floating around, and while it's probably obsolete at this point, the connectors for the controller pieces shown in the OP have me thinking that I may have been going somewhere with this.
Also still having my doubts on the pieces working like Wiimotes or being turned sideways for multiplayer. I just don't see from the rumors given how you could do that, fit both the bumper and trigger on the back, and make it ergonomic in all three modes of usage.
That said, I'm sure Nintendo could find a way if they end up doing that, but I'm just not able to envision it well.
If there is a dedicated "pro controller" of sorts, I don't think it will have detachable parts. There has to be some element of simplicity involved here or the message of "so, you just unplug parts X and Y and then plug them into part Z, but only if you don't have part Q, and also part Q can plug into part W, but part W does not plug into parts X and Y" is going to be a mess.
Also, the "based on" part is gold.
Dr. Buni
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This would be a pretty cool handheld. It would be far simpler to switch faulty buttons if you could just replace the whole controller part of the handheld.
I made this mockup a few days ago based on a combination of other mockups I've seen floating around, and while it's probably obsolete at this point, the connectors for the controller pieces shown in the OP have me thinking that I may have been going somewhere with this.
Also still having my doubts on the pieces working like Wiimotes or being turned sideways for multiplayer. I just don't see from the rumors given how you could do that, fit both the bumper and trigger on the back, and make it ergonomic in all three modes of usage.
That said, I'm sure Nintendo could find a way if they end up doing that, but I'm just not able to envision it well.
TLZ
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I don't understand anything. Everything I read doesn't make sense. Like a mish mash. Maybe for a devkit, but not for retail :/
UnemployedVillain
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You're confusing the process. It's no more complicated than the wiimote + nunchuk or wiimote + wiimotion plus + nunchuk and no one was ever confused by that.
James Scott
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UE4 is likely a given with DQXI, but it's pretty good and important. Epic didn't even consider Wii U powerful enough to run it properly so I think that bodes well for how modern the tech is in the NX even if it's weaker than PS4/X1.
Might be able to get ports of big Japanese console games especially if the sales performance is similar to 3DS.
If DQXI makes the jump alright then I'd imagine it would allow SE to port other games with cartoony art styles (KH3 which is also on UE4 but maybe not FF7)
Might be able to get ports of big Japanese console games especially if the sales performance is similar to 3DS.
If DQXI makes the jump alright then I'd imagine it would allow SE to port other games with cartoony art styles (KH3 which is also on UE4 but maybe not FF7)
CrazyHorse
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NX looks like casual targeted. Oh dear.
Possumowner
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Oh boy if it really is region free I'll do a happy dance...but I doubt it
That's definitely a fair point. I guess I would just like to have less pieces of plastic hanging around than more.
It runs at 720p on WiiU
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/d...f-the-wild-pushes-wii-u-hardware-to-the-limit
Bring back the classics
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I think the reveal date that Eurogamer has said is spot on!
You all need to chill a bit and wait and see, I think what your all forgetting is that Nintendo don't usually fail twice. (not that I consider Wii u a failure anyway, just the marketing for it.
Iwata started this concept and we still don't know what the true *gimmick or innovation* is! I have faith in the fact *Iwata would in no way produce something that is not a market leading product*
Have any of you actually seen prototypes or devkit machines they are nothing like the finished article. We know nothing of the line up or what the machine can produce when Nintendo's AAA teams are on board which they have been for some 2 years or more now.
I know that the Nx is not going to be a power house but I am more interested in how they are going to appeal to *casual and hard core gamers* maybe its to do with the games or how you play them. Remember what the saying has been * a new way of playing games* no direct replacement for Wii u or 3ds.
So I wait patiently now to see what Nintendo will announce. I am sure its very soon.
You all need to chill a bit and wait and see, I think what your all forgetting is that Nintendo don't usually fail twice. (not that I consider Wii u a failure anyway, just the marketing for it.
Iwata started this concept and we still don't know what the true *gimmick or innovation* is! I have faith in the fact *Iwata would in no way produce something that is not a market leading product*
Have any of you actually seen prototypes or devkit machines they are nothing like the finished article. We know nothing of the line up or what the machine can produce when Nintendo's AAA teams are on board which they have been for some 2 years or more now.
I know that the Nx is not going to be a power house but I am more interested in how they are going to appeal to *casual and hard core gamers* maybe its to do with the games or how you play them. Remember what the saying has been * a new way of playing games* no direct replacement for Wii u or 3ds.
So I wait patiently now to see what Nintendo will announce. I am sure its very soon.
Dr. Buni
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Yes that is a problem. It sounds great for me, as I wanted an unified Nintendo system, but I wonder if the general public will dig the idea...
Yay!
James Scott
Banned
Yeah, I think it'll at least be the same, but with a better chip (likely) more RAM, CPU, etc I would hope BoTW has at least better performance, LOD, maybe some added graphical effects too
What's the reveal date they suggested?
UnemployedVillain
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This is what happens when you follow leaks that give you bits and pieces of info instead of what for official announcements and the WHOLE picture. You guys are literally confusing yourselves by trying to put together a puzzle which you KNOW you don't have all the pieces to and which some pieces are only speculated to fit together
It's the difference between downscaling a 720p stream to a small 480p screen and upscaling a 720p stream to a gigantic 1080p screen.
I don't think most people would enjoy playing games with the image fidelity of a youtube video.
James Scott
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I don't imagine it'll be too complex. A dock connected to a TV seems simple enough. Controllers being able to detach sounds like a lot of parts, but I imagine it's fine
RobFox64tm
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I think the 720p screen is cause for concern though. BOTW on Wii U may run at that resolution, but there are a fair amount of 1080p games on the system as well. If the Smash Bros. rumors are true, I'd think it'd be hard to accept a 720p version of the game as the "ultimate edition." I'm sure Nintendo will make it so some games can still be played in 1080p on the TV. They'd just be down-scaled when running on the tablet.
So far so 'as-expected' 
Size sounds about as I predicted, no other real surprises in there expect the SD card slot (but only because I hadn't thought about that being on the portable unit itself).
If this is 720p and I can play WiiU-level games on the go* then I'm buying two.
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Size sounds about as I predicted, no other real surprises in there expect the SD card slot (but only because I hadn't thought about that being on the portable unit itself).
If this is 720p and I can play WiiU-level games on the go* then I'm buying two.
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With the possibility that it might be gimped in handheld mode and run at a higher spec when plugged into the dock for TV play - this would just be gravy.
Falchion
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I made this mockup a few days ago based on a combination of other mockups I've seen floating around, and while it's probably obsolete at this point, the connectors for the controller pieces shown in the OP have me thinking that I may have been going somewhere with this.
Also still having my doubts on the pieces working like Wiimotes or being turned sideways for multiplayer. I just don't see from the rumors given how you could do that, fit both the bumper and trigger on the back, and make it ergonomic in all three modes of usage.
That said, I'm sure Nintendo could find a way if they end up doing that, but I'm just not able to envision it well.
That is so sick. I especially like the home controller component and the fact that it can transform into 3DS mode because that would make it so easy for BC on those title.
Dr. Buni
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I think new content is far more important than the resolution for the general Smash audience. ^^
Hibiki Kurosawa
Member
God, if true that's fucking huge. I was hoping for something way more portable.
CrazyHorse
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I agree. Wii U again! I love Nintendo. My favourite company :-( But this is worrying.
A dock, plus detachable controllers, plus small cartridges? This is going to be a nightmare for parents.
Hate to break it to ya, but Console and PC gamers are the minority. The vast minority.
It just doesn't add up.
The sketch from the leak, does not match the measurements.
In fact, if we assume she misread the 281mm and it should be 218mm, in that case, it all makes much more sense, since she says the detachable controllers are 38mm wide.
A 6.2" screen (such as the WiiU) is +/- 138mm wide.
2 detachable controllers are 76mm wide.
That would leave 2mm bezel on each side of the screen.
38 + 2 + 138 + 2 + 38 mm = 218 mm
This would fit the sketch much better. But, on the other hand, she says the unit (without controllers) is already 205mm, so this would not add up, unless she just calculated started from the incorrect 281mm minus both controllers to get to 205.
The sketch from the leak, does not match the measurements.
In fact, if we assume she misread the 281mm and it should be 218mm, in that case, it all makes much more sense, since she says the detachable controllers are 38mm wide.
A 6.2" screen (such as the WiiU) is +/- 138mm wide.
2 detachable controllers are 76mm wide.
That would leave 2mm bezel on each side of the screen.
38 + 2 + 138 + 2 + 38 mm = 218 mm
This would fit the sketch much better. But, on the other hand, she says the unit (without controllers) is already 205mm, so this would not add up, unless she just calculated started from the incorrect 281mm minus both controllers to get to 205.
Eh, I think it's more of a figurative confusion.
I understand where you're coming from, but why should there be that many pieces to fit together? I know we don't have all the information, but there's almost certainly some element of detachable controllers and such and that alone -- especially if they detach to plug into some other device -- is already more to explain than just "hey, here's the box and the controller."
I'm not saying it won't work or be interesting or be cool, but I think the messaging is going to be a tricky path to navigate.
Wait for the official reveal/marketing before coming to that conclusion.
I think the better question is: is there a market for a weird, "underpowered" video game platform that primarily plays Nintendo games and will likely not have any of the big third party games that people buy.
th4tguy
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Again, I'm getting pulled into a convo about power, when my main problem was size. I honestly wouldn't care if the system was weaker than wiiu as long as it's size was good for a portable. This is a personal preference because I'll be using it as a handheld, not a home console.
In regard to k1, it was my understanding that it was to be a more efficient, less power draw, overall better chip which even underclocked is supposed to outperform x1 chip. If I'm wrong, I don't think it matters because I think it's a long shot this would be the chip used.
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