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[MDave]

In single hand mode sure, but it still got used in sideways NES style a lot. I do think the combination of curved and flat is awkward, though. Considering Nintendo's portables for the last quarter century and the wiimote all had very flat edges and even the Wii U Game Pad is pretty flat away from the rounded corners, I think MDave's mockups go too semicircular, like the child of an SNES and a Sony portable.

I'm happy to explain my reasoning for using curves instead of flat sides on my mock ups, as I think its important for informing people on a comfortable handheld to hold:

Curves are far and away more comfortable in the hands then flat sides and squared off corners.

SNES controller was a step up in ergonomics over the NES, thanks to its curved sides. Good thing too, because of shoulder buttons it introduced.
The Wii Remote was designed to look like a remote, hence the flat sides. You don't rest your fingers on any corners of the Wii remote because there are no shoulder buttons.
The Vita is more comfortable then the original 3DS, thanks to its curved sides.
Those with larger hands will know the pains of gaming on the GBA SP.
Taking the size of the Wii U gamepad in comparison to the SNES controller, yes it does have rounded corners. Not squared off corners that dig into your fingers like the GBA SP and 3DS do. 2DS have rounded top corners where the shoulder buttons are because they don't have to worry about making it flat so it looks nice folded as the 3DS does.

I don't think you will find many that disagree with me on those things.

Last but not least, an important observation:

With the exception of the GBA Micro: Nintendo have always done curved sides/corners when shoulder buttons are on the controller, and when there isn't hinges taking up space on those top corners.

 

[Malus]

Just listened to the new episode of NVC, and at the end of episode Jose Otero announced that he's going on vacation - and I could swear, and maybe this is (probably) just prankish - but it sounded as if Jose, Peer and Brian were all acting like they know SOMEthing and were choosing their words very carefully discussing NX...

Not sure what sense it makes... but I have a feeling Jose knows what's up.

Didn't someone say earlier that the Gamexplain guys were also "going on vacation" ?

Let the speculation commence.

edit: I just listened to the end of the podcast and they confirmed the price of the NX will be 399 amazon dollars.

The only good thing about revealing the system is the fact that the game floodgates will finally open.

Can't wait to see that Pikmin 4 and Super Mario NX footage!!

Probably waiting until e3 for mario

And for the few people here who are chomping at the bit for some to be proven wrong about NX because they'll be so embarrassed: https://www.reddit.com/r/NintendoNX/comments/51ykrg/nintendo_nx_is_the_third_amd_design_win/d7g0bdy

I don't think it'll change anything lol.

Any breaking news on a possible reveal date or are we grasping at straws?

yes

 

[Shadow Broker]

Any breaking news on a possible reveal date or are we grasping at straws?

 

[Dark Cloud]

Just listened to the new episode of NVC, and at the end of episode Jose Otero announced that he's going on vacation - and I could swear, and maybe this is (probably) just prankish - but it sounded as if Jose, Peer and Brian were all acting like they know SOMEthing and were choosing their words very carefully discussing NX...

Not sure what sense it makes... but I have a feeling Jose knows what's up.

I said the Gamexplain guys happen to go on vacation now. It's happening. This is way to damn convenient

 

[rtrbad]

Didn't someone say earlier that the Gamexplain guys were also "going on vacation" ?

Let the speculation commence.

https://twitter.com/BitnerdGX/status/773630878148943872

 

[AquaWateria]

We're almost there Nintendobros.....

 

[piratepwnsninja]

We're almost there Nintendobros.....

Shouldn't it be Nintendbros?

 

[Aostia]

I predict that they will do a pre unveil with small tidbits before TGS and a full reveal later on (maybe even in december)

 

[Ogodei]

Any breaking news on a possible reveal date or are we grasping at straws?

JeuxVideo rumor posted in reddit pointing to early October, though they're not sure if they were just quoting the Wall Street Journal analysts.

 

[MuchoMalo]

Yep, I pretty much gave myself this expectation: if it doesn't happen pre-TGS, wait til' october. And in all likelihood, they would want to give even a slight advance notice, so we would have to hear about it today. (I read there was an occurrence of something announced friday for a monday date in the past)

Waiting for October is going to be a smarter choice than agonizing everyday, wondering if the next minute will bring news.

If they wait until October, they'll likely want to avoid being too close to Color Splash, so if we think that they want to give a few weeks notice, late October to very early November is most likely. Mid-October is ruled out because they won't want to compete with PSVR for media attention. I can't believe Miyamoto flew all the way here for a single mobile game. I guess Kimishima really does see mobile as being as important to Nintendo's future as NX, if not more important.

 

[Dark Cloud]

If they wait until October, they'll likely want to avoid being too close to Color Splash, so if we think that they want to give a few weeks notice, late October to very early November is most likely.

Lol I love Malo.

 

[Chû Totoro]

JeuxVideo rumor posted in reddit pointing to early October, though they're not sure if they were just quoting the Wall Street Journal analysts.

They were indeed. It's even noted in the full article.

 

[Dreamwriter]

The 3DS was announced in March 2010 via a press release by Nintendo mentioning the system would be shown for the first time at E3 2010.

3DS was a special case, they announced its existence early via press release because news was about to leak all over the place about the 3D screens. Nintendo wanted to control the release of information. Of course, NX was also a special case, they announced its existence early to stave off speculation that Nintendo was going 100% mobile and exiting the console business.

 

[maxcriden]

We're getting Pokemon news on Wednesday and THS starts Thursday.

That leaves only Monday or Tuesday for Nintendo to announce the NX revea date.

Right, maybe we won't get NX news the same day as a Pokémon announcement, but Malo I believe was saying that the presence of Pokémon news in general like not on the specific day of Pokémon news but the fact that Nintendo is focused on these Pokémon reveals in general will preclude NX news during certain periods of time. Malo, please do correct me if I misunderstood. My point though was that from now until Pokémon Sun and Moon launch it seems safe to assume that we will continually be getting these Pokémon announcements, seemingly something significant every week or two, and as such, I don't think they will be competing with focus on Pokémon any less in, say, October, than they will be next week, so I don't think Pokémon news in general will preclude an NX announcement. I hope that makes sense. So, depending on when on Wednesday we get a Pokémon announcement I guess I could actually see an NX reveal announcement date dropping the same day or otherwise onany other day this week--and honestly I'm less and less convinced that it's impossible for Nintendo to (a) give us only 48 hrs of notice forna reveal, or potentially less depending on what they reveal in the first reveal, or (less likely I think) (b) announce something at the same time TGS is going on since people will pay attention to it anyway.

I could see an announcement on Monday for a following Monday (9/19) reveal or any day that week or the week after, I could see Nintendo just dropping a reveal mini video some day next week or in a subsequent week... lots of possibilities still for some degree of reveal this month.

 

[Mediking]

Let's talk NX launch colors! Can we get something besides white and black as launch colors?

 

[Knobiwan]

I assume many of you have read it, but the Emily Rogers writeup on the Gamecube is phenomenal and a good way to understand Nintendo as an industry now and in the past, and how gaming has evolved. You can look at it optimistically as perhaps Nintendo finally has a chance to return to their former glory given the success of "childish" mediums such as Mario and Pokemon in the past year and the disdain and fatigue people are having for the 4k power wars.

It can also be read pessimistically, that the time of Nintendo has passed and that gaming is so far removed from what it was then that those of us that want to recapture the N64 and GCN feeling are better off playing the old consoles themselves. I'm torn, and moving into a new generation(For Nintendo) I would love some discussion on where Nintendo even fits in the gaming world these days, and what us gamers that thrived on the feeling they had playing the N64 and GCN are supposed to look to to ever capture that experience again.

 

[Malus]

Let's talk NX launch colors! Can we get something besides white and black as launch colors?

Oh god please. This and colored buttons are my stealth wishes for NX, but I'm anticipating black/white as the most likely candidates.

Maybe I could slap a skin on it, but eh.

I assume many of you have read it, but the Emily Rogers writeup on the Gamecube is phenomenal and a good way to understand Nintendo as an industry now and in the past, and how gaming has evolved. You can look at it optimistically as perhaps Nintendo finally has a chance to return to their former glory given the success of "childish" medius such as Mario and Pokemon in the past year and the disdain and fatigue people are having for the 4k power wars.

It can also be read pessimistically, that the time of Nintendo has passed and that gaming is so far removed from what it was then that those of us that want to recapture the N64 and GCN feeling are better off playing the old consoles themselves. I'm torn, and moving into a new generation(For Nintendo) I would love some discussion on where Nintendo even fits in the gaming world these days, and what us gamers that thrived on the feeling they had playing the N64 and GCN are supposed to look to to ever capture that experience again.

I'd like for them to recapture the Wii days, minus the Wii Music and Wii balance board E3 flubs.

 

[Pinky]

Kimishima: "We will reveal the NX on October 15th and that is final."

Reggie: "But sir! That's 5 days after Starbucks is expected to reveal their newest Frap!"

Kimishima: "Fuck. November it is."

 

[Clessidor]

If they wait until October, they'll likely want to avoid being too close to Color Splash, so if we think that they want to give a few weeks notice, late October to very early November is most likely. Mid-October is ruled out because they won't want to compete with PSVR for media attention. I can't believe Miyamoto flew all the way here for a single mobile game. I guess Kimishima really does see mobile as being as important to Nintendo's future as NX, if not more important.

Don't forget to put the AC direct on November 2nd into your calculation.

 

[TheCongressman1]

Let's talk NX launch colors! Can we get something besides white and black as launch colors?

I'm guessing black and a red. White for Japan only.

I hate that. I want white.

 

[Kinsei]

Let's talk NX launch colors! Can we get something besides white and black as launch colors?

I would think so since this is also a handheld. I'm expecting some sort of blue and/or red at launch.

 

[Pancake Mix]

Let's talk NX launch colors! Can we get something besides white and black as launch colors?

But how would Nintendo sell other colours to hardcore fans later on?

Expect only a couple colours at launch as per usual.

Black is probably a given, while any of red, blue, or white could be the second colour.

 

[MuchoMalo]

I don't understand why you put the large borders left/right next to the screen. The speakers could just be on the back, even on the sides or top or bottom. The start/home/share/select text could just as easily be rotated 90°.

Or like this

Please no. Don't buy into such silliness as putting aesthetics before function. Bottom and especially back speakers are horrible, to the point that no speakers at all would almost be preferable. Damn Apple and Samsung for making people think stuff like that is acceptable! Front speakers or bust! The front is the only place speakers should ever be, no ifs, ands, or buts. If you feel otherwise, this is one of the cases where your opinion is truly and utterly wrong.

Don't forget to put the AC direct on November 2nd into your calculation.

... Maybe January is most likely. :/

Spoiler

And Anth0ny, don't you respond to this because I don't agree with you.

 

[Aostia]

I assume many of you have read it, but the Emily Rogers writeup on the Gamecube is phenomenal and a good way to understand Nintendo as an industry now and in the past, and how gaming has evolved. You can look at it optimistically as perhaps Nintendo finally has a chance to return to their former glory given the success of "childish" mediums such as Mario and Pokemon in the past year and the disdain and fatigue people are having for the 4k power wars.

It can also be read pessimistically, that the time of Nintendo has passed and that gaming is so far removed from what it was then that those of us that want to recapture the N64 and GCN feeling are better off playing the old consoles themselves. I'm torn, and moving into a new generation(For Nintendo) I would love some discussion on where Nintendo even fits in the gaming world these days, and what us gamers that thrived on the feeling they had playing the N64 and GCN are supposed to look to to ever capture that experience again.

We are supposed to look for the natural evolution of the last gwnerations, with portable games more and more complex and near the home.experiences, for what that means on nintendo platforms (not AAA gaming), with a streamlined developing pipeline with a unified system with HD visual and both on the go and couch gameplay sessions

 

[Malus]

Please no. Don't buy into such silliness as putting aesthetics before function. Bottom and especially back speakers are horrible, to the point that no speakers at all would almost be preferable. Damn Apple and Samsung for making people think stuff like that is acceptable! Front speakers or bust! The front is the only place speakers should ever be, no ifs, ands, or buts. If you feel otherwise, this is one of the cases where your opinion is truly and utterly wrong.



... Maybe January is most likely. :/

Spoiler

And Anth0ny, don't you respond to this because I don't agree with you.

You just need to get yourself a soundbender!

Your reveal date optimism was fleeting, like a shooting star.

 

[MuchoMalo]

You just need to get yourself a soundbender!



Your reveal date optimism was fleeting, like a shooting star.

Late September isn't ruled out. It all does seem pretty awkward though.


And no, it's still a terrible idea. The existence of that is proof.

 

[fossi8]

what would be the right price for you to buy the NX? $300?

 

[Kissenkopf]

Just listened to the new episode of NVC, and at the end of episode Jose Otero announced that he's going on vacation - and I could swear, and maybe this is (probably) just paranoia - but it sounded as if Jose, Peer and Brian were all acting like they know SOMEthing and were choosing their words very carefully discussing NX...

Not sure what sense it makes... but I have a feeling Jose knows what's up.

But what DID they say, whyt gives you the feeling they choosen their words very carefully?

 

[Neoxon]

what would be the right price for you to buy the NX? $300?

$250 or less. Pricing the NX at $300 would be a death-wish for the system considering that the PS4 Slim & the Xbox One S are pretty much at the same price.

 

[MuchoMalo]

what would be the right price for you to buy the NX? $300?

$250 with a pack-in is as high as they can possibly go.

 

[Davey Cakes]

$250 or less. Pricing the NX at $300 would be a death-wish for the system considering that the PS4 Slim & the Xbox One S are pretty much at the same price.

Yep. My prediction is $250 with a pack-in game. The sweet spot.

 

[Malus]

what would be the right price for you to buy the NX? $300?

$200-250 is the price I'd be happy with if the rumors of what it is are true.

$300 is the most I'd reasonably spend on it as a fan. Maybe I could stretch it to 350 but I definitely wouldn't be happy lol. Well, with Zelda in my hands I wouldn't be doing much complaining.

 

[Clessidor]

Honestly I don't care about soundboxes at all. They always sound kinda bad and I prefer headphones for my 3DS.
But putting them on the back just sounds stupid for me.

what would be the right price for you to buy the NX? $300?

300 would be too much. I think it shouldn't cost more like 250, 260.

 

[Turrican3]

Nintendo is king when it comes to product durability but in terms of delivering slick/modern looking hardware... not that much. Except Wii. Wii was a looker during it's golden years.

I don't know.

Famicom, Super Famicom/EUR SNES, N64 were all great looking and modern, I think.

EUR NES, USA SNES and arguably the GC, on the other hand... I can understand that, yes.

But I'd say there are definitely more good than bad ones in their design history.

 

[NateDrake]

Didn't someone say earlier that the Gamexplain guys were also "going on vacation" ?

Let the speculation commence.

I've been on vacation this week...

 

[TunaLover]

What makes the wait even more unbereable is the fact we haven't heard a new Nintendo announcement in home console since Color Splash ugh!
We've been starving for about 6 months now ;_;

 

[orioto]

This thread is really depressing now..

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

Good to see Malo is back to being irrational.
The fairly reasonable optimism was an awkward look.

 

[Kinsei]

I've been on vacation this week...

...

You're not helping our madness.

 

[Dark Cloud]

I bought a PS3 at $600 so I don't care what the NX costs for me personally.

 

[TunaLover]

This thread is really depressing now..

Nintendo killed it

 

[fossi8]

Hopefully not going to have two different versions.. I´m willing to pay up to 250$

 

[CrisKre]

My gut always told me the reveal would be in October. Especially since Nintendo stated that NX would skip E3 due to not enough software being ready for prime time, and I thought anything less than 4-5 months wouldn´t be a significant enough ammount of time to get said software ready to be shown.

So I think october it is.

 

[IntelliHeath]

The only good thing about revealing the system is the fact that the game floodgates will finally open.

Can't wait to see that Pikmin 4 and Super Mario NX footage!!

Yup, the games and its features actually excited me more than consoles specs actually do.

 

[Leona Lewis]

Hopefully not going to have two different versions.. I´m willing to pay up to 250$

One SKU or bust. Nintendo needs a simplified message and a unified product to relay that message.

 

[FlaygletheBagel]

what would be the right price for you to buy the NX? $300?

Depends on the launch lineup and how well-executed the hardware is, and this is in no way a realistic guess as to its actual price, but if everything looks good I'm prepared to pay up to $400 for it. Again, that price would be suicide for them, but I'd pay it. I'm starved for some new Nintendo stuff these days.

Edit: I think $249 is a good guess of where it'll be. $199 if they really want to get crazy with it, but I doubt that'll happen when they want to turn a profit on this thing from the get-go.

 

[rtrbad]

what would be the right price for you to buy the NX? $300?

Depends on a lot of factors, but it comes down (for me) to whether I'll need to buy two of them, one for me and one for my wife. $250, it's doable. $300+, we might be swapping pokemon carts to play opposite versions. Either way, I'll be getting at least one of them, and I can see spending up to ~$400 for one.

I'm such an easy mark for Nintendo.

 

[Peterc]

10k posted a video tweet: https://twitter.com/Happy_Nintendo/status/774291009865912320

Didn't checked it yet. I asked bill if he is following neogaf. I'm curious if he will answer on it

 

[what-ok]

Price will depend on manufacturing costs. Period!
I know your cries for a $250 price will go unheard.

 

[Mithos]

what would be the right price for you to buy the NX? $300?

Depends on how powerful it is, I'm not looking to replace a portable, but to replace a home console. It can't be more expensive as/equally expensive as the other home consoles I can choose from.