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[CrisKre]

I think is would be interesting to speculate on what games we can expect on reveal. Per Miyamoto at E3, I think Mario will be a no-show, since he said he hoped something would be ready by next E3.

That said, I expect:

- Zelda BotW (duh!)
- Super Smash Bros. for NX
- Wii Sports/Nintendoland NX equivalent
- 1 or 2 NX 3rd party exclusives (maybe Beyond Good and Evil and a Monster Hunter title?)
- Retros title
- I actually expect a Mario Kart to be announced.
- 3 or 4 ports from 3rd parties (what those are, I have no idea other than most probably Squre will be there with DQ XI)

 

[maxcriden]

I doubt it will be. It would be a bad move and it would surprise me.
The NX reveal will be the first time Nintendo makes an impression about their new system. Just a normal direct would be a bad idea because it needs a little bit time to spread the message beyond gaming enthusiasts, and give people time to plan their reaction streams and stuff. etc.
So I think at least one week is necessary to spread the message with a teaser video. More important is also the naming. To make it clear Nintendo will be serious they would go with the Digital Event branding.

Right, I think this would be a special Direct, more in the vein of a digital event as you said - but in practice I don't know that the actual content would be far removed from what we expect from a Direct or Digital Event, unless I'm misremembering something that sets the two apart? So I'm curious what makes them significantly different from one another to you.
One week sounds like a good amount of notice, maybe the initial announcement as you indicated as a teaser video, could contain the first official drip of info rather than just a date. Like a silhouette.

 

[-shadow-]

I don't think it was well received at all at the time. Maybe it was a GAF only thing. but the response was crazy polarizing. I remember people pissed at how there was no graphics shown, only reactions.

Going through the reveal reaction topic. It's amazing to look back at it. Very polarizing reactions.

 

[idwl]

I hope it's between 200-250 and not any less cause then I'd worry about the quality of the display and the power of the device. I would love if the NX does truly end up being a family of systems and Nintendo later on releases a high end handheld with a gorgeous screen and possibly built with aluminum body. Mmm

 

[Dark Cloud]

Right, I think this would be a special Direct, more in the vein of a digital event as you said - but in practice I don't know that the actual content would be far removed from what we expect from a Direct or Digital Event, unless I'm misremembering something that sets the two apart? So I'm curious what makes them significantly different from one another to you.
One week sounds like a good amount of notice, maybe the initial announcement as you indicated as a teaser video, could contain the first official drip of info rather than just a date. Like a silhouette.

Nintendo has to give us atleast a weeks notice. I want to make sure I'm not at work to watch it live and like he said to let YouTube gamers get prepared set up for their live reactions. They want as much exposure as they can get.

 

[maxcriden]

I don't like these at all-the half circle controllers. I'm not dissing you, but if this is what Nintendo came up with I would be upset and wished Nintendo would've just made a single controller and NOT worry about putting in "NES/SNES" style controllers. Just make sure they feel good when you take them off to use them as Wii motion like controllers.

Because I feel like they're just gimped looking when you hold them sideways.


They're not just going to reveal the Direct out of nowhere for thei cornerstone future product just like that without telling anyone lol. I want to watch it live-not some upload they throw in YouTube like the NX is some throw away system.

.......Why not? They announce directs out of nowhere all the time. The most amusing thing about these threads has been the navel gazing attempting to apply some kind of logic to it.

When will they announce a Direct? It would have to be Monday for a Tuesday direct. Wednesday is Pokemon and TGS is after that.

I would love to be wrong because I want the NX reveal, but the most I could see happening is a NX reveal announcement date coming Monday or Tuesday.

I think if I understand correctly that you two are saying the same thing? Nintendo will announce a Direct. Then we will get the Direct however many days later. Isn't that what you both meant? I think the crossing of wires occurred insofar as Dark Cloud thought Thraktor meant Nintendo would randomly upload an NX reveal with no prior announcement, but I don't think that's what Thraktor meant. So I think all of you (and me) are saying ostensibly the same thing here.

Nintendo has to give us atleast a weeks notice. I want to make sure I'm not at work to watch it live and like he said to let YouTube gamers get prepared set up for their live reactions. They want as much exposure as they can get.

I think a week is probably realistic, yes, but I wouldn't rule out just a day or at least less than a week's notice when only enthusiasts will tune in to watch a reveal and everyone who reads about gaming online will follow the news at least tangentially whether it's a day or week's notice. But at least a week is probably more realistic insofar as Nintendo will be hoping to get as many tuned in as possible.

 

[OrbitalBeard]

I think is would be interesting to speculate on what games we can expect on reveal. Per Miyamoto at E3, I think Mario will be a no-show, since he said he hoped something would be ready by next E3.

That said, I expect:

- Zelda BotW (duh!)
- Super Smash Bros. for NX
- Wii Sports/Nintendoland NX equivalent
- 1 or 2 NX 3rd party exclusives (maybe Beyond Good and Evil and a Monster Hunter title?)
- Retros title
- I actually expect a Mario Kart to be announced.
- 3 or 4 ports from 3rd parties (what those are, I have no idea other than most probably Squre will be there with DQ XI)

I'm not sure what to expect outside of Zelda, but if they don't reveal around a dozen new games at the unveiling, I'll be disappointed. There's really no excuse to not show a bunch of software since they're waiting this long to properly announce the platform.

I honestly don't even care all that much about the hardware. I just want to see games.

 

[The Boat]

I have always found the way people decide what price is right very weird. Not just because we know... well, nothing about the hardware, but because there's more to cost than power. It's all about value and that depends a lot on the concept and how appealing that can be to the market.
If NX is a powerful handheld that you can easily play on the TV, there's a lot of appeal and consequently perceived value there, even if it's less powerful than PS4. With the right marketing and line up, I can easily see a 300 price point being feasible. There are way too many valuables to draw lines in the sand price wise, at least up to a certain point.

 

[orioto]

You know i've always had a kinda fetish of mine, since i was a little kid. It's mostly about fantasizing about new consoles and trying to imagines the games and features etc.... I really love that.

But that NX story has been so long and with so many contradiction that i'm just kinda tired now, before it's even revealed.

I hope Nintendo has an incredible reveal based on games, or something huge that we didn't see coming for the the hardware, or i fear they ran out of hype before even saying anything..

 

[maxcriden]

Like the mock ups, but I've always felt that if you are doing a rectangular screen with detachable controllers, and you want to have any hope of porting DS and 3DS games (and accommodate vertical styles of games), then there should be two orientations for the hand grips. Attach them with screen horizontal, or attach them with screen vertical.

I agree. I think that's absolutely ideal. I think I saw at least one mock-up that took that into account.

Do we think this will have sticks or slide pads? Every mockup is using sliders and I really want sticks.

Slide/circle pads were confirmed by ER and/or LPVG I believe.

 

[Mpl90]

Just listened to the new episode of NVC, and at the end of episode Jose Otero announced that he's going on vacation - and I could swear, and maybe this is (probably) just paranoia - but it sounded as if Jose, Peer and Brian were all acting like they know SOMEthing and were choosing their words very carefully discussing NX...

Not sure what sense it makes... but I have a feeling Jose knows what's up.

Can you post the link, please?

 

[Dark Cloud]

I think is would be interesting to speculate on what games we can expect on reveal. Per Miyamoto at E3, I think Mario will be a no-show, since he said he hoped something would be ready by next E3.

That said, I expect:

- Zelda BotW (duh!)
- Super Smash Bros. for NX
- Wii Sports/Nintendoland NX equivalent
- 1 or 2 NX 3rd party exclusives (maybe Beyond Good and Evil and a Monster Hunter title?)
- Retros title
- I actually expect a Mario Kart to be announced.
- 3 or 4 ports from 3rd parties (what those are, I have no idea other than most probably Squre will be there with DQ XI)

- Zelda BotW
- Mario of some kind
- Retros game
- Square Enix will be there
- Ubisoft will 100% be there. They were there for Wii and Wii U
- atleast a few more brand new games from Nintendo
- probably a pack in game, hopefully Nintendo Land 2
- a couple more third party
- a big collaborative exclusive third party game

 

[Skittzo0413]

Kimishima: "We will reveal the NX on October 15th and that is final."

Reggie: "But sir! That's 5 days after Starbucks is expected to reveal their newest Frap!"

Kimishima: "Fuck. November it is."

Absolutely perfect. Nintendo really doesn't and shouldn't need to schedule around all of the various events of the year. PSVR really isn't relevant, the US election isn't relevant, and Paper Mario: Color Splash certainly isn't relevant.

Really the only relevant events would be large gaming conventions (TGS) and the holiday shopping period, so all of October should work fine. Edit: and the rest of September, barring late next week.

 

[Genio88]

I'm in day one if it's 250$, if it's 300$ then i'll wait until i find a deal on ebay or something for 250$.
By the way, no Direct announcement today means no reveal before TGS, not enough days available to announce the Direct, unless we believe they'll have a surprise Direct out of nowhere

 

[OrbitalBeard]

I'm in day one if it's 250$, if it's 300$ then i'll wait until i find a deal on ebay or something for 250$.
By the way, no Direct announcement today means no reveal before TGS, not enough days available to announce the Direct, unless we believe they'll have a surprise Direct out of nowhere

TGS starts next Thursday. They could easily announce a Direct on Monday or Tuesday.

 

[maxcriden]

I don't like the obsession over compromising the primary single player ergonomics over some weird misplaced desire for two player local multiplayer huddling around a tiny screen.

Not only ergonomically poor but do you design the controls in single player to only use a single pad and four buttons, to accommodate two players?

Just get them to bring their own NX and play using a screen each, or buy a second controller for tv play

I'm a bit concerned also, but I think as others have said the primary reason for the detachable controls is just as much probably to provide extra controllers for at home MP as it is for on the go MP (which I, like you, see as a very weird concept but I guess maybe kids will like it?) and then secondarily, there is also the benefit of removing the controllers so you can use the system as a touchscreen only tablet.

 

[Clessidor]

Right, I think this would be a special Direct, more in the vein of a digital event as you said - but in practice I don't know that the actual content would be far removed from what we expect from a Direct or Digital Event, unless I'm misremembering something that sets the two apart? So I'm curious what makes them significantly different from one another to you.
One week sounds like a good amount of notice, maybe the initial announcement as you indicated as a teaser video, could contain the first official drip of info rather than just a date. Like a silhouette.

Good question. First the branding. We are used to Directs as the general news and announcement format while the Digital Event was only an E3 thing so far and sounds more important.
And seconde on a Digital Event is actually a different format. We have a higher focus on trailers and developer stories instead of one host presenting everything. For me this makes it more similar to a press conference, when other presenters enter the stage and I think it would be a better format for revealing NX.
Would be interesting to represent different voices (Takeda, Miyamoto, Aonuma etc.) talking about their new device and it's function from different perspectives.

And I agree about the announcement video. It should show something interesting. Probably a silhouette or it's something funny like the Mega64 videos. At least it is what I hope.

 

[CrisKre]

Good question. First the branding. We are used to Directs as the general news and announcement format while the Digital Event was only an E3 thing so far and sounds more important.
And seconde on a Digital Event is actually a different format. We have a higher focus on trailers and developer stories instead of one host presenting everything. For me this makes it more similar to a press conference, when other presenters enter the stage and I think it would be a better format for revealing NX.
Would be interesting to represent different voices (Takeda, Miyamoto, Aonuma etc.) talking about their new device and it's function from different perspectives.

And I agree about the announcement video. It should show something interesting. Probably a silhouette or it's something funny like the Mega64 videos. At least it is what I hope.

I love and miss the heyday of Digital Events. I love the developer interviews.

Think of it, I would actually love one for the NX reveal, but Iwata would be soley missed at the same time. His passion and calm demeanor made those sooo special

 

[Malus]

I have always found the way people decide what price is right very weird. Not just because we know... well, nothing about the hardware, but because there's more to cost than power. It's all about value and that depends a lot on the concept and how appealing that can be to the market.
If NX is a powerful handheld that you can easily play on the TV, there's a lot of appeal and consequently perceived value there, even if it's less powerful than PS4. With the right marketing and line up, I can easily see a 300 price point being feasible. There are way too many valuables to draw lines in the sand price wise, at least up to a certain point.

Less power and less software than their competition makes for a tough time selling perceived value. Maybe if they line up everything perfectly they can get away with charging more, but it's an uphill battle. It'd be easier just to start off at an affordable price and gain momentum from there.

 

[maxcriden]

If they wait until October, they'll likely want to avoid being too close to Color Splash, so if we think that they want to give a few weeks notice, late October to very early November is most likely. Mid-October is ruled out because they won't want to compete with PSVR for media attention. I can't believe Miyamoto flew all the way here for a single mobile game. I guess Kimishima really does see mobile as being as important to Nintendo's future as NX, if not more important.

I don't believe they'll let Color Splash stop them from revealing NX.

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

TGS starts next Thursday. They could easily announce a Direct on Monday or Tuesday.

For when???

 

[CrisKre]

I don't believe they'll let Color Splash stop them from revealing NX.

They could totally also briefly remind Wii U and 3DS users of whats coming for those platforms, like they´ve done numerous times in the past. They should not focus on those games further than a quick reminder though.

 

[bomb]

Zelda
Metroid - Retro
Donkey Kong - Retro
Diddy Kong Racing with Sumo
Mario
Luigis Mansion 3
Splatoon 2
BG&E 2
For Honor
Rocket League

 

[OrbitalBeard]

For when???

Well, most Directs are announced 24 to 48 hours in advance.

 

[MR ARCADE FOREVER]

Waiting for NX news

 

[Air]

Haven't really posted in any of these speculation threads, but my gut is telling me that the console is going to be announced before the end of this month. Why? Momentum. Nintendo is on a high right now due to the Apple conference and Pokemon go. Nothing else they say will be as important as the future console that they plan to sell so before things get busy for the fall with their lineup (Pokemon, paper Mario, perhaps a Wii u price cut), I think that they would want to put the NX on as many people's minds as possible before they go quiet for the rest of the year. It makes less sense to announce it as time goes on because you can't sell people on hype when you already have consoles with games coming out. Nothing else makes sense imo. I don't really know how they'll do it- probably a Nintendo direct or something, but if they want to announce a console successor they have to do it in a way that won't cannibalize the sales for the fall lineup.

It has to be this month imo.

 

[Dark Cloud]

Let's think of what nicowav said. He said NX reveal would be around September 20th. Ok so that's after TGS.

That's the week of September 19-23. More than likely they wouldn't reveal the NX on a Monday or Friday. That leaves Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday. I don't think anything important is happening those three days. They could do a full reveal on Thursday the 22nd and this Monday or Tuesday do a Mega64 announcement video for NX reveal date.

That gives them everyone a week and a couple of days to prepare for it.

I think if I understand correctly that you two are saying the same thing? Nintendo will announce a Direct. Then we will get the Direct however many days later. Isn't that what you both meant? I think the crossing of wires occurred insofar as Dark Cloud thought Thraktor meant Nintendo would randomly upload an NX reveal with no prior announcement, but I don't think that's what Thraktor meant. So I think all of you (and me) are saying ostensibly the same thing here.



I think a week is probably realistic, yes, but I wouldn't rule out just a day or at least less than a week's notice when only enthusiasts will tune in to watch a reveal and everyone who reads about gaming online will follow the news at least tangentially whether it's a day or week's notice. But at least a week is probably more realistic insofar as Nintendo will be hoping to get as many tuned in as possible.

Maybe there was some misunderstanding. From my perspective I don't see Nintendo doing a NX full reveal next week because that would mean they would only give us a days notice-announce Nintendo Direct on Monday and NX full reveal would be on Tuesday. I can see Nintendo announce a NX Nintendo Direct announcement date next week and doing the full reveal the week of Sept. 19-23.

 

[Father_Brain]

Can you post the link, please?

http://feeds.ign.com/~r/ignfeeds/po...uper_Mario_Runs_and_Nintendos_Mobile_Plan.mp3

I think he's reaching, tbh.

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

Haven't really posted in any of these speculation threads, but my gut is telling me that the console is going to be announced before the end of this month. Why? Momentum. Nintendo is on a high right now due to the Apple conference and Pokemon go. Nothing else they say will be as important as the future console that they plan to sell so before things get busy for the fall with their lineup (Pokemon, paper Mario, perhaps a Wii u price cut), I think that they would want to put the NX on as many people's minds as possible before they go quiet for the rest of the year. It makes less sense to announce it as time goes on because you can't sell people on hype when you already have consoles with games coming out. Nothing else makes sense imo. I don't really know how they'll do it- probably a Nintendo direct or something, but if they want to announce a console successor they have to do it in a way that won't cannibalize the sales for the fall lineup.

It has to be this month imo.

I don't know if it's this month or next but anyone that thinks it's next year is insane.

 

[dtm808]

I think is would be interesting to speculate on what games we can expect on reveal. Per Miyamoto at E3, I think Mario will be a no-show, since he said he hoped something would be ready by next E3.

That said, I expect:

- Zelda BotW (duh!)
- Super Smash Bros. for NX
- Wii Sports/Nintendoland NX equivalent
- 1 or 2 NX 3rd party exclusives (maybe Beyond Good and Evil and a Monster Hunter title?)
- Retros title
- I actually expect a Mario Kart to be announced.
- 3 or 4 ports from 3rd parties (what those are, I have no idea other than most probably Squre will be there with DQ XI)

Its way too early for a new MH and Japan has always gotten it 6 months+ before hand anyway. I wouldnt expect Mario Kart 9 either. That would be a next year announcement for 2018 along with maybe 3D mario for holiday 2017. Ninty always spaces out big system sellers.

 

[Air]

I don't know if it's this month or next but anyone that thinks it's next year is insane.

Agreed. Maybe for a second wave of information for the console (like price or w/e), but they aren't going to show it off in January or something. What works for Apple isn't going to work for them because they're breaking a precedent- that game consoles usually launch in the fall (I know there are exceptions). I think Nintendo above all is cautious, so they're going to want to give the NX enough time to be in the public's conscience and than when the holidays are over it might be possible that they'll do a smaller scale info dump.

 

[Cyanity]

Accidentally broke my 3DS trying to fix a PCB connector, so the NX is gonna scratch that itch for me. $250 and I'll be in line day 1. Any more than that, and the games will have to sell the console for me.

 

[UnemployedVillain]

Only saw the first episode and hope it comes to Netflix Germany someday

It might be on Hulu, if that's even in Germany

 

[optimiss]

I don't understand why you put the large borders left/right next to the screen. The speakers could just be on the back, even on the sides or top or bottom. The start/home/share/select text could just as easily be rotated 90°.

Or like this

I have to say, non front-facing speakers would suck. Especially since Nintendo doesn't use very loud speakers.

 

[Oregano]

Its way too early for a new MH and Japan has always gotten it 6 months+ before hand anyway. I wouldnt expect Mario Kart 9 either. That would be a next year announcement for 2018 along with maybe 3D mario for holiday 2017. Ninty always spaces out big system sellers.

Unless Monster Hunter is getting announced for Playstation on the 13th it's happening at NX launch. Capcom has an unannounced Mon Hun game planned for this fiscal year.

 

[Skittzo0413]

I've demonstrated how bad I am at creating mockups, so I'd like to ask someone who can and wants to make one to try one where each control portion is shaped a lot more like a nunchuk than like a wiimote. I'm thinking kind of similar to the terrible mockup I made here: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=215893318&postcount=4122

I'm thinking that the shape of the controllers resembles the nunchuk, though not exactly. The "inner" side is likely flat or flattish, while the outer side has a grip portion and diagonally offset controls (sticks diagonal from face buttons/dpad). Also as per the rumors, right stick is on the bottom. As for the shoulder button and trigger, my thinking is that they can be on the flat, inner side of the control portion since your fingers naturally wrap around a nunchuk-shaped controller. The shoulder/trigger could resemble my other terrible mockup here: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=216381688&postcount=6739


It would be awesome if someone wanted to make a good mockup of this! I'd be very grateful!

 

[CrisKre]

Unless Monster Hunter is getting announced for Playstation on the 13th it's happening at NX launch. Capcom has an unannounced Mon Hun game planned for this fiscal year.

It could also be MoHun Stories port to NX. The assets seem terribly hi-res for it to just a 3ds title. Icould be absolutely wrong on that though lol.

 

[Vena]

Unless Monster Hunter is getting announced for Playstation on the 13th it's happening at NX launch. Capcom has an unannounced Mon Hun game planned for this fiscal year.

Has a new MonHun ever just been announced like that? Its either its own event or its a console reveal.

 

[majik13]

Some great edits. But noooo, you removed the sticks being offset from the buttons!

 

[casey_contra]

It could also be MoHun Stories port to NX. The assets seem terribly hi-res for it to just a 3ds title. Icould be absolutely wrong on that though lol.

That's kind of how I feel about Sun and Moon... I have a hunch those assets could be pushed MUCH harder.

 

[AdanVC]

This thread is really depressing now..

Just like every other Nintendo thread for the past year unfortunately

 

[Vena]

Just like every other Nintendo thread for the past year unfortunately

Lol.

 

[Graphics Horse]

It could also be MoHun Stories port to NX. The assets seem terribly hi-res for it to just a 3ds title. Icould be absolutely wrong on that though lol.

They said it wasn't stories iirc. Could be X-G or whatever.
3DS+NX would be a possibility in that case.

 

[The Boat]

Less power and less software than their competition makes for a tough time selling perceived value. Maybe if they line up everything perfectly they can get away with charging more, but it's an uphill battle. It'd be easier just to start off at an affordable price and gain momentum from there.

Software absolutely, power? That has been shown time and again that it doesn't really translate into sales. Obviously, a lower price point makes it easier, but that's not always possible or advisable according to production costs.

 

[Oregano]

It could also be MoHun Stories port to NX. The assets seem terribly hi-res for it to just a 3ds title. Icould be absolutely wrong on that though lol.

They specifically said it's not Monster Hunter Stories and it'd be weird if they specifically meant "Not Monster Hunter Stories on 3DS".

Has a new MonHun ever just been announced like that? Its either its own event or its a console reveal.

Monster Hunter 4 was announced in the 3DS's pre-TGS conference/stream back in 2011.

Monster Hunter Tri G was also announced in Famitsu the week before that.

 

[Kimawolf]

I've been on vacation this week...

We all know it was for the PSPro meeting bruh.

 

[Vena]

They specifically said it's not Monster Hunter Stories and it'd be weird if they specifically meant "Not Monster Hunter Stories on 3DS".



Monster Hunter 4 was announced in the 3DS's pre-TGS conference/stream back in 2011.

Monster Hunter Tri G was also announced in Famitsu the week before that.

Alright. Time to hit the panic button!

 

[Graphics Horse]

I've been on holiday from this thread this week and I feel like I haven't missed a thing 🤔

 

[th3sicknness]

I really hope they just move away from Wii sports to be honest. I want a complete separation from the Wii. The titles that had pointer controls sold the absolute least in the Wii U generation.

I love Pikmin and Wii Sports as much as the other guy.. But if I want to play them I can fire up my Wii or Wii U. We dont need another system that has the same waggle fest.

They need to move onto the Splatoons of the world that focus on great uses of gryo and keep pushing forward.

 

[Father_Brain]

Well, apparently 10K has rejoined the NX Console Truthers.