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Report: NX Handheld Dimensions, Layout Info, Lack of Region Lock

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Koozek

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I feel like this is a lot of people in here
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You guys should watch Atlanta

Only saw the first episode and hope it comes to Netflix Germany someday :(
 

Aostia

El Capitan Todd
Jesus, you know it is a good trailer when they don't show any game but people playing and still they sell this to 120 mill. people.

Such a great trailer
But also Wonderful design, unmatched concept, cohesive product and representative video

Wow
 

10k

Banned
Here's a revised mockup based on Emily's information. It's tricky figuring out the start select home share button placement, I figured it would be needed on the controllers when they are separated. And putting the labels for them on the main unit instead of the controllers means they could be start / select for when its used as 1 and 2 player controllers. Or maybe used as additional action buttons, perhaps.

The pair on the left is for when playing in console mode 1 player. They function like a regular controller if you snap them together, or separate them for that Wii motion capability for games that need it.

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Does it come in black? :)
 

jacksrb

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I just discovered something else. It's fine to flip the left controller because of the split D-pad. The right one can't if we assume face buttons because... They would be upside down.

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LOVING the controller discussion!

I would think they would synchronize the colors across the split d-pad and ABXY buttons, so that on screen prompts could be colors. Also, the split d-pad could just be arrows assuming you aren't holding it NES style and up is always up...

I do think that the triggers/shoulder buttons would have to be there for Zelda that would keep someone from flipping the right hand side to be symmetrical. Grrr...why aren't they symmetrical.

Interesting idea on the shoulder buttons/triggers effectively being inward facing on the controllers, but that a) would require a lot of height to clear the NX screen and b) would not be the same for a right handed vs left handed user.
 
Nintendo mobile games on Nintendo handhelds that already receive fully featured offerings makes no sense at all.
Ehh, I don't see a problem. Some things (Miitomo) wouldn't have had some bigger Real version. And we do occasionally see weird minor spinoffs on machines with the proper games, like a Link's Crossbow Training. As long as it's not difficult to port, I don't see why it would be a bad idea to make as much of Nintendo's output as possible accessible.

On a related subject, though, I'm wondering how in a combined world they might treat series like Zelda. It's long been the case that on the portable you'd get the "less epic" games from smaller teams like Minish Cap or Link Between Worlds. If there's no separate portable device, do they still continue with these smaller games? Do they price them cheaper or do something else to distinguish them from the Breath of the Wild types? For some series it doesn't matter as much--not a big difference between home and portable Mario platformers or Rhythm Tengoku, method of multiplayer aside.
Based on what we currently believe NX to be, the power isn't there to bring good enough VR experiences to it.

Sure, they could have minigames and "experiences" for it, but not big games.
It's all relative. No machine is going to have good VR experiences without it taking a hit in looks from what a plain rectangular 2D game could do with the same specs. There's no reason it shouldn't be able to handle content beyond what Gear VR has been doing.
Rukumouru said:
EDIT: Also the 720p screen wouldn't be doing it any favors.
Yeah, that is definitely true. Plenty for some sort of 3DS Virtual Console, though.
ggx2ac said:
Which becomes a problem, where are the shoulder buttons? Emily claimed there are at least 2. (This is referring to horizontal mode.)
I think buttons on the back instead of "shoulder" would take care of this.
 

KeigoNiwa

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Man... With Sony's lackluster showcase on Wednesday, and now with their lack of support with Fallout 4 and Skyrim mods, Now really is the perfect time for Nintendo to announce the NX.

I know Nintendo is a company that tries to separate themselves from the pact and not base their business around what the competition is doing, but this type of publicity could actually work out well for Nintendo.
 
Here's a revised mockup based on Emily's information. It's tricky figuring out the start select home share button placement, I figured it would be needed on the controllers when they are separated. And putting the labels for them on the main unit instead of the controllers means they could be start / select for when its used as 1 and 2 player controllers. Or maybe used as additional action buttons, perhaps.

The pair on the left is for when playing in console mode 1 player. They function like a regular controller if you snap them together, or separate them for that Wii motion capability for games that need it.

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This is legit beautiful. I cannot imagine the real thing will be nearly as pretty. Thanks for ruining my expectations, haha.
 
Man... With Sony's lackluster showcase on Wednesday, and now with their lack of support with Fallout 4 and Skyrim mods, Now really is the perfect time for Nintendo to announce the NX.

I know Nintendo is a company that tries to separate themselves from the pact and not base their business around what the competition is doing, but this type of publicity could actually work out well for Nintendo.
They were showing an enhanced existing system with no new games that is coming out this year.
There's absolutely no need for Nintendo to jump at this chance to one up Sony.
Sony will be fine for sure, Nintendo needs to get all their ducks in a row.
 

KeigoNiwa

Member
They were showing an enhanced existing system with no new games that is coming out this year.
There's absolutely no need for Nintendo to jump at this chance to one up Sony.
Sony will be fine for sure, Nintendo needs to get all their ducks in a row.
Oh definitely, I absolutely agree with everything you said, it's just, you know how media works, it's just a small window of oppertunity that probably won't be there for long.

But yea, ultimately I do hope Nintendo is doing their best to make this debut flawless!
 

Malus

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Man... With Sony's lackluster showcase on Wednesday, and now with their lack of support with Fallout 4 and Skyrim mods, Now really is the perfect time for Nintendo to announce the NX.

I know Nintendo is a company that tries to separate themselves from the pact and not base their business around what the competition is doing, but this type of publicity could actually work out well for Nintendo.

Yeah Nintendo will one up them what with not having Fallout or Skyrim in the first place :p
 

maxcriden

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If we don't get anything on Monday, pre-TGS is ruled out. However, due to that Pokemon announcement it most likely already is. It would also likely rule out a press event in September.

But, about Pokémon, aren't there just as likely to be continual such announcements about the games from now till launch? As such I'm not convinced that rules anything out.
 

Draxal

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Nintendo mobile games on Nintendo handhelds that already receive fully featured offerings makes no sense at all.

Eh, it makes perfect sense.

For example you can have mobile games that unlock pokemon main game, (like that Pokemon AR game for black and white on the 3ds). You want to have that ability to unlock that pokemon on the console as well.
 
This is pretty much how I've envisioned it looking like.

The only thing I've been wondering about is if the two controllers go together when removed or if they remain separate - it seems like it would be too small/awkward when combined.

I agree - I'm fine with using it like a non-tethered nunchuck.
 
Here's a revised mockup based on Emily's information. It's tricky figuring out the start select home share button placement, I figured it would be needed on the controllers when they are separated. And putting the labels for them on the main unit instead of the controllers means they could be start / select for when its used as 1 and 2 player controllers. Or maybe used as additional action buttons, perhaps.

The pair on the left is for when playing in console mode 1 player. They function like a regular controller if you snap them together, or separate them for that Wii motion capability for games that need it.

4b4507e344.jpg
Made a slight edit I think would be smart:
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Shoulder buttons on the touch screen itself.
It would facilitate making touch screen only games.
 
SMD is back again with another AMD design win... (NX video) ..

claims from his own video title, "Nintendo NX Is the Third AMD Design Win"

When will it all end.
 

Ashler

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I feel that Nintendo has the perfect opening to steal attention but will probably not react due to how slow they normally operate.
 

ASIS

Member
Is Nintendo attending this year's TGS? Or will they do something like a keynote or something? Anything at all?
 

BorkBork

The Legend of BorkBork: BorkBorkity Borking
It's amazing how well this trailer is. Everything about the Wii was clear that very moment. Still blows my mind how backwards everything after this has been.

I don't think it was well received at all at the time. Maybe it was a GAF only thing. but the response was crazy polarizing. I remember people pissed at how there was no graphics shown, only reactions.
 
Here's a revised mockup based on Emily's information. It's tricky figuring out the start select home share button placement, I figured it would be needed on the controllers when they are separated. And putting the labels for them on the main unit instead of the controllers means they could be start / select for when its used as 1 and 2 player controllers. Or maybe used as additional action buttons, perhaps.

The pair on the left is for when playing in console mode 1 player. They function like a regular controller if you snap them together, or separate them for that Wii motion capability for games that need it.

4b4507e344.jpg

I was going to say...why so many C-Stick? then I figured out there buttons lol, amazing work! Could you make a yellow one so I can drool over it**
 
I feel that Nintendo has the perfect opening to steal attention but will probably not react due to how slow they normally operate.

It seems to me they have a timetable and are sticking to it.

With Pokemon Go, Olympics showing, 3DS direct, Pokemon news, and the Apple showing it feels this a part of the strategy to get Nintendo in the headlines and heard on a regular basis, and to be fair to them it is working.

I don't think it will be long before we hear something. Only thing that makes me doubt it slightly is the pokemon release. Don't know whether an NX would affect sales or not.
 

Leatherface

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There are a couple glaring design problems I have with these mock ups that need to be addressed. First off these detachable controllers with the straight edges on one side would be VERY uncomfortable. I would like to think Nintendo, who puts a lot of effort into their controllers, wouldn't let something like this slide. Secondly, The left and right side of the controller clicking together to form a "standard" controller of some sort. There would have to be a center piece. A "shell" if you will, otherwise it would also be awful.
 
But, about Pokémon, aren't there just as likely to be continual such announcements about the games from now till launch? As such I'm not convinced that rules anything out.
We're getting Pokemon news on Wednesday and THS starts Thursday.

That leaves only Monday or Tuesday for Nintendo to announce the NX revea date.
 

Plinko

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There are a couple glaring design problems I have with these mock ups that need to be addressed. First off these detachable controllers with the straight edges on one side would be VERY uncomfortable. I would like to think Nintendo, who puts a lot of effort into their controllers, wouldn't let something like this slide. Secondly, The left and right side of the controller clicking together to form a "standard" controller of some sort. There would have to be a center piece. A "shell" if you will, otherwise it would also be awful.

Wait, what? NES and Wiimotes had straight edges and they were fine (Wiimote especially).
 

Leatherface

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Wait, what? NES and Wiimotes had straight edges and they were fine (Wiimote especially).

The wiimote was held and used differently. The NES controller was one of Nintendo's first controllers ever. I mean look at the mock up. Imagine holding the one on the right for example, with the one side bulging out and an analog stick where your palm would be...no. It makes no sense. The buttons make no sense. It would be the worst controller ever.
 

The_Lump

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Here's a revised mockup based on Emily's information. It's tricky figuring out the start select home share button placement, I figured it would be needed on the controllers when they are separated. And putting the labels for them on the main unit instead of the controllers means they could be start / select for when its used as 1 and 2 player controllers. Or maybe used as additional action buttons, perhaps.

The pair on the left is for when playing in console mode 1 player. They function like a regular controller if you snap them together, or separate them for that Wii motion capability for games that need it.

4b4507e344.jpg

Great mockup, nice work! However it highlights once again that this set up without handgrips is not gonna work. There's no way to hold that comfortably.

Symmetrical thumbsticks above d-pad/buttons with this shape would be perfect, imo. Also the button labels on the main unit is a solid idea.
 

Clessidor

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That's exactly what they'd do if the reveal was a Direct.

I doubt it will be. It would be a bad move and it would surprise me.
The NX reveal will be the first time Nintendo makes an impression about their new system. Just a normal direct would be a bad idea because it needs a little bit time to spread the message beyond gaming enthusiasts, and give people time to plan their reaction streams and stuff. etc.
So I think at least one week is necessary to spread the message with a teaser video. More important is also the naming. To make it clear Nintendo will be serious they would go with the Digital Event branding.
 
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Rösti

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Is Nintendo attending this year's TGS? Or will they do something like a keynote or something? Anything at all?
Nintendo as a company will not exhibit at Tokyo Game Show 2016, nor will they have a keynote in the TGS Forum. Likely will individual staff members of Nintendo attend the show however, but that's about it I think.
 
Here's a revised mockup based on Emily's information. It's tricky figuring out the start select home share button placement, I figured it would be needed on the controllers when they are separated. And putting the labels for them on the main unit instead of the controllers means they could be start / select for when its used as 1 and 2 player controllers. Or maybe used as additional action buttons, perhaps.

The pair on the left is for when playing in console mode 1 player. They function like a regular controller if you snap them together, or separate them for that Wii motion capability for games that need it.

4b4507e344.jpg

I don't like these at all-the half circle controllers. I'm not dissing you, but if this is what Nintendo came up with I would be upset and wished Nintendo would've just made a single controller and NOT worry about putting in "NES/SNES" style controllers. Just make sure they feel good when you take them off to use them as Wii motion like controllers.

Because I feel like they're just gimped looking when you hold them sideways.

That's exactly what they'd do if the reveal was a Direct.
They're not just going to reveal the Direct out of nowhere for thei cornerstone future product just like that without telling anyone lol. I want to watch it live-not some upload they throw in YouTube like the NX is some throw away system.
 

Malus

Member
It's amazing how well this trailer is. Everything about the Wii was clear that very moment. Still blows my mind how backwards everything after this has been.

They've done a great job with some of their E3 skits, but their TV commercials have been shiiiiiiiiet since Wii.

Though to be fair the initial Wii U ads are basically like the Wii ones, but with shittier music, a less compelling concept, and NSMBU instead of Wii Sports.
 
Like the mock ups, but I've always felt that if you are doing a rectangular screen with detachable controllers, and you want to have any hope of porting DS and 3DS games (and accommodate vertical styles of games), then there should be two orientations for the hand grips. Attach them with screen horizontal, or attach them with screen vertical.
 

mrklaw

MrArseFace
I don't like the obsession over compromising the primary single player ergonomics over some weird misplaced desire for two player local multiplayer huddling around a tiny screen.

Not only ergonomically poor but do you design the controls in single player to only use a single pad and four buttons, to accommodate two players?

Just get them to bring their own NX and play using a screen each, or buy a second controller for tv play
 
I am still trusting in the French games blog saying Monday! They where correct on ps4pro. Even if it's direct reveal.

Tgs full reveal even if it's not normal for nintendo. There is still time for invites
 
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