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Report: NX Handheld Dimensions, Layout Info, Lack of Region Lock
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Probably nothing news worthy about them.
Skittzo0413
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Okay, I'm starting to get the impression that the devkit/prototype that's currently out will be quite different from the final product.
A) Dimensions: While the Wii U devkit looked pretty similar to the final gamepad, remember that the NX handheld actually contains a full SoC, and at least based on the July leak it had a Tegra X1, while being rumored to use a Pascal Tegra chip in the final design. A Tegra X1 will generate a lot more heat than a Pascal Tegra at the same power level, so more space would be needed to dissipate it. Therefore the dimensions of the devkit would necessarily have to be larger than those of the final retail unit.
B) TV out: Remember how the Wii U devkits and demo units had a giant wire sticking out of the bottom for connecting to the TV? This is what I'm picturing connecting to the "TV out" in the diagram. Remember devkits need to be connected to PCs more or less the whole time in order to allow developers to actually work on their software, so it's very likely the connector would only work in connecting to the dock, rather than directly to the TV or PC. I'd be curious to hear how the PSP and Vita devkits were able to connect to screens.
C) Shoulder buttons/triggers: It would be very surprising if this launches without any shoulder buttons or triggers, considering even the 3DS and the Wii had shoulders or triggers, and those buttons are pretty much mandatory for most games today. I wouldn't be surprised if whoever was describing the device just didn't mention them, or didn't see them on the opposite side of the device.
Let's just remember that this is a devkit, and therefore is specifically adapted to connect to computers in order to develop software. The final retail product does not need to be constantly wired into computers, and will likely have several different features than we're hearing of.
The dock is not something that Nintendo would need to show to developers in order to get them developing their software, unless the dock does enable significantly higher power levels, which it's seemingly not going to do. Potentially a small upclock to allow for 1080p resolution on some titles though is all I'm expecting now as far as power goes, and potentially a cheap CPU allowing it to run it's own little OS, possibly to allow for it to download games while the user is not home.
A) Dimensions: While the Wii U devkit looked pretty similar to the final gamepad, remember that the NX handheld actually contains a full SoC, and at least based on the July leak it had a Tegra X1, while being rumored to use a Pascal Tegra chip in the final design. A Tegra X1 will generate a lot more heat than a Pascal Tegra at the same power level, so more space would be needed to dissipate it. Therefore the dimensions of the devkit would necessarily have to be larger than those of the final retail unit.
B) TV out: Remember how the Wii U devkits and demo units had a giant wire sticking out of the bottom for connecting to the TV? This is what I'm picturing connecting to the "TV out" in the diagram. Remember devkits need to be connected to PCs more or less the whole time in order to allow developers to actually work on their software, so it's very likely the connector would only work in connecting to the dock, rather than directly to the TV or PC. I'd be curious to hear how the PSP and Vita devkits were able to connect to screens.
C) Shoulder buttons/triggers: It would be very surprising if this launches without any shoulder buttons or triggers, considering even the 3DS and the Wii had shoulders or triggers, and those buttons are pretty much mandatory for most games today. I wouldn't be surprised if whoever was describing the device just didn't mention them, or didn't see them on the opposite side of the device.
Let's just remember that this is a devkit, and therefore is specifically adapted to connect to computers in order to develop software. The final retail product does not need to be constantly wired into computers, and will likely have several different features than we're hearing of.
The dock is not something that Nintendo would need to show to developers in order to get them developing their software, unless the dock does enable significantly higher power levels, which it's seemingly not going to do. Potentially a small upclock to allow for 1080p resolution on some titles though is all I'm expecting now as far as power goes, and potentially a cheap CPU allowing it to run it's own little OS, possibly to allow for it to download games while the user is not home.
purseowner
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Region free or a charger. You can't have both.
Roto Prime
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I never even thought of that, my guess is mini USB?
tali'zorah84
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This pretty much means wiimote type of play is out of the question (at least with the dev unit) unless you want to slice your wrists while playing.
Yeah, that sort of weird connector is jarring.
I wonder if they've looked into/are using something like the connectors that Google are using for Project Ara, seems like they'd be low profile, strong and able to transfer data fast enough.
wild wild rice
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This leak contradicts the one we got yesterday where the analog nub on the right side was below the buttons.
The horizontal bezel on each side is almost as wide as each of the controllers. Could be poor design, differences between dev and retail units or the report is BS.
Aizu_Itsuko
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Prototype or not, if the final screen is 6.2" I can't see how the system is going to be much smaller than that.
Phones and tablets with screens that size are 16-17cm wide or more. Add a couple of 4cm controllers and we are already in the 24-25cm territory.
Phones and tablets with screens that size are 16-17cm wide or more. Add a couple of 4cm controllers and we are already in the 24-25cm territory.
Joelstinton14
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I think this is very much a controlled leak, they coming more often, various sources, i don't think it'll be long before we see it revealed officially. Fits what happened on previous nintendo consoles too.
Roto Prime
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Maybe the back of the controller pops off to add the layout of your dreams.
Kenzodielocke
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Don't compare console dev kits to handheld devkits.
Dark Cloud
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Did these LPVG people ever leak anything before? I've never heard of them and they kind of just popped out of nowhere with NX leaks...
Stairouais
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It won't.
Dreamwriter
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Huh? I don't see how holding the pictured controller in your left hand like a Wii Remote wouldn't work.
This pretty much means wiimote type of play is out of the question (at least with the dev unit) unless you want to slice your wrists while playing.
It comes with a dock.
Meh, this machine is so weird anyway I don't mind. Nintendo games will be gorgeous regardless and I don't expect third party support so the "we can't port our game because it's not powerful enough" is saying nothing anyway. More power is great, I agree, but I'd rather see a low price and a long battery life. Trade-offs.
Don't compare console dev kits to handheld devkits.
🤗 Missed you my friend.
Dark Cloud
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I think he's saying to use it as a pointer. Wrapping your hand around that would cut you up. Obviously, that's not something they would ship as a final product. Lol
This is Nintendo, remember...
This pretty much means wiimote type of play is out of the question (at least with the dev unit) unless you want to slice your wrists while playing.
Except if you'll be able to push the connector into the controller. Some USB sticks use mechanics like that.
Kenzodielocke
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Yeah, that's why their old games hold up. Georgous art design.
It shouldnt be as big as it looks and there should be a plastic cover.
I didn't say that the dock comes with a plug though.
we (they/she..whoevr) are talking about a dev kit prototype.
not about the actual final product.
dev kit prototypes RAE ugly, at best. and Unfomfortable to hold.
Dreamwriter
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I understand that's what he means. I don't see how holding that pictured controller vertically in your left hand wouldn't work, even if the connector couldn't be retracted.
Imagine playing Wii Boxing with that. It would tear my arm open completely.
Also, the way i play FPS on Wii, I put my hands together, nunchuck in the left, mote in the right, but i press them together to get a more steady aim. Wouldn't be possible with this either.
Dark Cloud
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Oh yeah I don't know. Looks like it would work perfectly as a pointer.
Nintendo is going beyond VR. It's reality @_@
A portable system over/nearby Wii U power level is outstanding nowadays, so... how can an over Xbone power of level being set as a milestone?
Here's what I'd do for the Pro Controller shell (obviously the right controller would look like the controller on the right side in the OP, but was easier just to flip the picture of the controller on the left from LPVG). Probably would cost less than $1 to put that in the box too.
You'd still sell a traditional controller as well.
What it tells me is that it probably isn't battery powered. It has to connect to something to work.
If it was battery powered, it could just use wireless communication.
Edit: This is about the detachable controllers.
Joelstinton14
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Games like Mario Kart 8, Captain Toad, Mario 3D world look great anyway. Graphics/power isn't a system seller for me.
Sure, it is nice to be blown away by something from time to time, but i think we are at that universal stage where good art design rules the roost (For me anyway
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Bjoern the Smexy
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If it's capacitive you won't need a stylus, just your finger.
And even then, there are styluses for capacitive touchscreens.
Sure, but only as an addition to multitouch. Miiverse drawings are nice but please, let's move on.
It's likely due to the connectors and needing a little extra cooling.
ZeroMaverick
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We need more expertly crafted mockups! Keep them coming people!
Connector seems to be able to connect to the dock AND to a Tv.
(Source: https://twitter.com/LaurakBuzz/status/770950059987001344)
Thanks for posting this. Weird. I wonder if that's for devkits only. Or if the dock is for controllers/ports only then w/ no upclocking/inc. power. Or if the purpose of the HH-TV direct connect is for when you want to use the HH as a controller for playing on the TV (if it reaches that far).
tkscz
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Same here. I know I'm suppose to consider it a "hybrid", but this is a handheld with a dock, so in my eye, it a handheld that is slightly less powerful than the current gen consoles, which makes sense to me.
Dreamwriter
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I'm still not understanding how the tab would come into contact with any of your flesh outside of your fingers.
No right stick?
UnemployedVillain
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Why do people always jump to these theories?? Nintendo is not controlling leaks. If they wanted us to know they'd tell us in an official announcement
Also, what makes me somewhat sceptical about some of this is wired controllers? What year is it??
ZeroMaverick
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Serenitynow
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Right now, this is looking a little too clunky for my liking. How the hell are you supposed to use that as a Wii remote with a huge piece of plastic sticking out of the side?! Also, tbh, the gimmick isn't thrilling me. But it's fine, I'll take it. I like handhelds.
Really need to see the retail version now, though.
Really need to see the retail version now, though.
Dark Cloud
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If the dock essentially does nothing for the NX and the games just play 720p on the tv, then I'm expecting a NX console too. You don't go from 1080p Smash Bros to 720p on tv.
geordiemp
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Why not, region locking a game playing device is a choice that can be turned off at ANY time by the hardware maker using a software update.
The type of plug shipped and language on the box has NOTHING to do with region locking software.
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