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Report: NX Handheld Dimensions, Layout Info, Lack of Region Lock

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Why do people always jump to these theories?? Nintendo is not controlling leaks. If they wanted us to know they'd tell us in an official announcement

Also, what makes me somewhat sceptical about some of this is wired controllers? What year is it??

What does controlling leaks mean? Like to see if people like the prototype before showing it off?
 

KAL2006

Banned
If the dock essentially does nothing for the NX and the games just play 720p on the tv, then I'm expecting a NX console too. You don't go from 1080p Smash Bros to 720p on tv.

I'd expect some games are 1080p and some are 720p similar to Wii U. Of course when playing games on the handheld all games will be 720p.
 
The giant spike connectors don't seem like they'd be very ergonomic if you're supposed to be using them like a Wii remote when disconnected. I'd assume that part is changing in the final product.

Also odd that the game cartridge slot is at the bottom and not the top of the unit, but it doesn't really change much. Just a bit on unorthodox is all.

From what I remember, the Vita prototype had a TV out that was phased out. I'm not sure if that'll happen here but I can see them having two models for sale: one bundled with and one without the dock.
 

KingSnake

The Birthday Skeleton
If the dock essentially does nothing for the NX and the games just play 720p on the tv, then I'm expecting a NX console too. You don't go from 1080p Smash Bros to 720p on tv.

I still believe that you don't need the dock to do "something", just by plugging it in it can run in a different state. Shield Tablet switches to a "high performance mode" when plugged in the TV. Laptops, tablets, phones all have different power modes. I just can't believe NX can't have the same.
 
I'd expect some games are 1080p and some are 720p similar to Wii U. Of course when playing games on the handheld all games will be 720p.
That's fine if it works like that. I still want to see how this whole NX as one controller works and feels.

I still believe that you don't need the dock to do "something", just by plugging it in it can run in a different state. Shield Tablet switches to a "high performance mode" when plugged in the TV. Laptops, tablets, phones all have different power modes. I just can't believe NX can't have the same.

Yeah, that would work fine. I didn't know the Shield Tablet could do that.
 

Oppo

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jeez. this thing is all over the road.

whatever it is, it had better be instantly recognizable, not some weird hand-wavy concept like the Wii U was. so far I'm not seeing the "aha" moment, the "new concept in gameplay".

obviously we are missing a lot of pieces, but many runours are coalescing, and it looks like the futon of handhelds so far, not great.
 

Luschient

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Ugh, I just want a Nintendo console that I can completely control with the Pro controller. None of the "plug in the touch screen pad to continue" mess.
 

cacildo

Member
Well, this thing....

Isnt exactly exciting

Needs a gimmick


And here's a gif i had ready for a few days i dont care about it anymore

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ggx2ac

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I'm going to sleep. When I wake up, maybe people will have made posts about the following two things:


A connector is shown, like the Wii Nunchuk. This tells me the detachable controllers don't have their own batteries. If they did, they wouldn't need such huge connectors and could just use wireless communication.

This is important regarding the rumours we heard about new Wii remote models.


This tells me that the TV connector is a mini-HDMI to HDMI cable that connects directly to the TV or to the dock.

To connect to the dock, the cable would need to connect from dock to TV and the NX connects to the dock.

There is no information still about any performance changing modes when docked, especially now we know there is a TV connector on the NX itself.

So does that mean the NX only works in one state? Does that mean there will be an SCD later on? I don't know.

Edit: All quotes are from the OP.
 
I've been out of the loop for this for a bit, did Nintendo actually set a conference date to unveil this considering it's launching alongside Zelda in March.
 

seb_n

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Why not, region locking a game playing device is a choice that can be turned off at ANY time by the hardware maker using a software update.

The type of plug shipped and language on the box has NOTHING to do with region locking software.

Sarcasm detector on the blink?
 

MuchoMalo

Banned
And about 30% less volume and X1 instead of Pascal and no active cooling and it goes around 7-8 W of which the screen hog 1 more which means that even if it had the exact same thermal constraints it would have 1 more W available for the SoC just from having a smaller screen and then it's 30% larger and use Pascal.

Pixel C is 850Mhz. Nintendo can clock this as low as they want, but thermal shouldn't be a problem with this absurdly big size.

Right, but a prototype is likely thicker than the retail unit will be and may have the X1 in it.

How comes we haven't heard anything about bumpers and trigger buttons yet?

Yeah, I'm thinking that there won't be triggers, sadly. Probably no clickable sticks either.

It was a prototype after all, i hope the retail version will be at least a bith thinner, i'd also like it to be smaller overall, but it that ain't possible i hope it'll be thinner so that it would fit in my bag...or I guess I'm gonna have to change bag

Thinner would mean weaker and less battery space though. It's a trade-off. Though, Apple has taught the public that form >>>>>>>>>>>> function, so people would probably be more impressed by a super thin device less than half as powerful as Wii U than they would be by a thicker device 3x as powerful as Wii U.
 

Samemind

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Sure, but only as an addition to multitouch. Miiverse drawings are nice but please, let's move on.
It's not just miiverse drawings. There's the whole art academy series, flipnote animation, swapnote (rip). Legitimate means to express creativity are few and far between in video games and it would be a great loss if Nintendo stopped providing adequate means to draw digitally in their hardware.

Colorslive.com
K-eke.tumblr.com
 

Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
I think a lot of people are forgetting that the TV connector on the controller may be a devkit-only feature. It wouldn't be out of the ordinary for that to be the case.
 
jeez. this thing is all over the road.

whatever it is, it had better be instantly recognizable, not some weird hand-wavy concept like the Wii U was. so far I'm not seeing the "aha" moment, the "new concept in gameplay".

obviously we are missing a lot of pieces, but many runours are coalescing, and it looks like the futon of handhelds so far, not great.

I wouldn't put any real faith in any of these rumors. I get the sense that a lot of then are just feeding off each other. We haven't seen anything but rumor and hedged speculation. Wouldn't be surprised if most of it ends up being BS.
 

G.ZZZ

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I'm going to sleep. When I wake up, maybe people will have made posts about the following two things:



A connector is shown, like the Wii Nunchuk. This tells me the detachable controllers don't have their own batteries. If they did, they wouldn't need such huge connectors and could just use wireless communication.
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No. The controllers need a plug because if that thing is as big as the devkit, they absolutely need a huge plug to avoid the controllers detaching during gameplay and destroying your console. The plugs can easily be just plastic.
 

Falchion

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This is wild. I love the bigger screen, I just want a small, sleek form factor. No super bloated plastics with huge bezels that look like a Leapfrog like the Wii U gamepad.
 

Branduil

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I just noticed the weirdness of the dimensions. How is this thing supposed to be 28 cm wide? That's much wider than the Wii U gamepad even though the screens are the same size.
 
I think a lot of people are forgetting that the TV connector on the controller may be a devkit-only feature. It wouldn't be out of the ordinary for that to be the case.
Yeah I didn't think of this. That's all it probably is.

So the NX wouldn't have a tv out is what you're saying? That means the docks purpose would just be to sit the NX in it to connect to the tv.
 

Somnid

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I find it weird we can have these heated and opinionated discussions about split d-pads and analog stick placement but when it comes to touchscreens "eh, whatever my phone has is probably best". I don't disagree capacitive comes with some advantages but people don't seem to ever weigh the pros and cons given expected usage and form-factor, just a vague sense of modernity.

I really hope they have some stylus solution.
 

Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Yeah I didn't think of this. That's all it probably is.

So the NX wouldn't have a tv out is what you're saying? That means the docks purpose would just be to sit the NX in it to connect to the tv.

At this point, yes. I still think in the future it will be upgradeable.
 

wrowa

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I've been out of the loop for this for a bit, did Nintendo actually set a conference date to unveil this considering it's launching alongside Zelda in March.

Just to clarify this: NX is supposed to launch in March, but Zelda doesn't has a date other than 2017.
 

idwl

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Same here. I know I'm suppose to consider it a "hybrid", but this is a handheld with a dock, so in my eye, it a handheld that is slightly less powerful than the current gen consoles, which makes sense to me.
Yeah I've stopped thinking about it as a home console. I have a ps4 and I'm happy with that, I might get an xbox one s soon or wait for Scorpio next year. I just miss playing proper Nintendo games and knowing they'll look better or as good as Mario kart 8 and Mario 3d world on a handheld is exciting .
 

LordRaptor

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If its a handheld with a dock, the one thing that you can absolutely, positively, 100% guarantee that that dock will do, is supply power to charge the handheld while docked.

With that said, TV Out and Power connectors being on opposite sides of the handheld makes no sense, unless the 'dock' is more like a vice / clamp.
 

Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
If I'm not mistaken, the PS Vita devkit also had an HDMI out.
 
I find it weird we can have these heated and opinionated discussions about split d-pads and analog stick placement but when it comes to touchscreens "eh, whatever my phone has is probably best". I don't disagree capacitive comes with some advantages but people don't seem to ever weigh the pros and cons given expected usage and form-factor, just a vague sense of modernity.

I really hope they have some stylus solution.

I hate Multi touch so much..I wish this was all fake, but the saying is "Where there is smoke, there is fire." I hope this is all a bad dream and Nintendo really is not dropping the second screen, I have grown so accustomed to it, it would be like removing the D-Pad to me.
 

18-Volt

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How comes we haven't heard anything about bumpers and trigger buttons yet?

From what I understand, those controller units are interchangeable. You buy the base, tablet unit and then choose side controls that suits you best. Maybe non-split dpad one will exist too.

I'm also sure there will be some bundles with controls too. Call of Duty edition: Packed with controls bumpers etc.
 
I'm going to sleep. When I wake up, maybe people will have made posts about the following two things:



A connector is shown, like the Wii Nunchuk. This tells me the detachable controllers don't have their own batteries. If they did, they wouldn't need such huge connectors and could just use wireless communication.

This is important regarding the rumours we heard about new Wii remote models.

I wouldn't assume they won't be battery powered to be honest. Those connectors could also allow the three separate batteries to charge each other/combine their power to help make the portable last longer. These controllers are surely the new Wii remote-ish devices we heard about in the previous report.

This tells me that the TV connector is a mini-HDMI to HDMI cable that connects directly to the TV or to the dock.

To connect to the dock, the cable would need to connect from dock to TV and the NX connects to the dock.

Plinko answered this-

I think a lot of people are forgetting that the TV connector on the controller may be a devkit-only feature. It wouldn't be out of the ordinary for that to be the case.

Like he said, keep in mind this is a development model, which is specifically designed to connect to various hardware to aid in development, like a PC. We could even end up seeing Wii U-esque streaming from the NX portable to the dock. Connectors, ports, and their locations will almost assuredly change between the devkits and the final product.

I wouldn't put any real faith in any of these rumors. I get the sense that a lot of then are just feeding off each other. We haven't seen anything but rumor and hedged speculation. Wouldn't be surprised if most of it ends up being BS.

If you read Emily's blog post, you'll see that she and Laura talked and confirmed that they both have different sources who are all saying the same thing. So unless you think she's flat out lying, this is very likely to be accurate information about at least some of the devkits out there.
 
I wouldn't put any real faith in any of these rumors. I get the sense that a lot of then are just feeding off each other. We haven't seen anything but rumor and hedged speculation. Wouldn't be surprised if most of it ends up being BS.

That's not really how it went with the WiiU.
 
At this point, yes. I still think in the future it will be upgradeable.
I'm more on the side of there will be more NX systems coming in different shapes in the future. I don't think Nintendo places all their chips into a handheld that plugs to a tv and hopes it succeeds. The upgradable docks would be looked at as an optional accessory.

I still think what Iwata said about multiple platforms that use the same OS is what he wanted for the NX.
 
Since all of these people are breaking NDA anyway, why don't they just take a picture of the devkit instead of drawing it out? Assuming there are no publisher-unique identifiers on it like the Durango kits.
 

Falchion

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From what I understand, those controller units are interchangeable. You buy the base, tablet unit and then choose side controls that suits you best. Maybe non-split dpad one will exist too.

I'm also sure there will be some bundles with controls too. Call of Duty edition: Packed with controls bumpers etc.

So multiple sets of controller add-ons? That would be wild.
 
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