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[maxcriden]

I think a lot of people are forgetting that the TV connector on the controller may be a devkit-only feature. It wouldn't be out of the ordinary for that to be the case.

Yeah I didn't think of this. That's all it probably is.

So the NX wouldn't have a tv out is what you're saying? That means the docks purpose would just be to sit the NX in it to connect to the tv.

At this point, yes. I still think in the future it will be upgradeable.

Well, the two aren't mutually exclusive, right? We can say theoretically the dock doesn't increase power and that the TV out is done through the dock only and not through a port on the system, but it's entirely possible (beyond the possibility of it being upgraded in the future) that by plugging in the NX it can perform better than when undocked. So, I guess only point is that that isn't ruled out yet, nor is the possibility that this TV out on the NX will be in the final product as a way to play NX with a touchscreen controller (I'm picturing an uncomfortably long cord, though).

No, and Zelda is launching "2017", not with the NX.

Not necessarily with the NX, rather than definitively not with the NX, but I think it's safe to bet it will.

 

[SuperSah]

If this thing ends up as large as it says then lmao. I did a measurement with tape and fuck me it's massive. It's rather thick and is almost wider than my Macbook's display. This is not a 'portable' console and would not fit into any bag I carry. Now imagine that monstrosity with a carrying case?! It'd be even larger!

Also, those detachable controllers will be absolute ass. They have a circle/control pad with a d-pad right under it. That will be very uncomfortable to use, especially sideways. Imagine playing a platformer where all the controls are right next to each other when they could be spread to the bottom and top of the controller? But then that causes issues when it's plugged in causing your thumb to cramp up stretching down to reach the controls.

I know this is likely just the prototype, but if this thing is what it seems then I'm out. I'd certainly not be happy with a handheld that big with clusterfuck controllers.

 

[Enduin]

Very much hope the TV connector thing is just a Dev Kit only feature. Not requiring the Handheld Device to be docked, or at least connected to some kind of dedicated power source, in order to be played on TV is a big blow to the idea that the system has dual clockspeeds for when the system is in Handheld or Console modes.

An official reveal cannot come soon enough.

As well, even if they manage to shave an inch or two off the size of the device that's still over 9 inches wide. That's pretty goddamn massive, but if they really do have a 6.2" screen that kind matches up when you consider the controllers and bezel and everything. Not exactly a portable, hope they ship with a nice cover mat or some kind of screen/face protector.

 

[NHarmonic.]

Megaton if it's actually not region locked. Omg.

 

[Bko]

This tells me that the TV connector is a mini-HDMI to HDMI cable that connects directly to the TV or to the dock.

To connect to the dock, the cable would need to connect from dock to TV and the NX connects to the dock.

There is no information still about any performance changing modes when docked, especially now we know there is a TV connector on the NX itself.

So does that mean the NX only works in one state? Does that mean there will be an SCD later on? I don't know.

Edit: All quotes are from the OP.

What if the dock was simply not finalized for the dev kit Laura's infos are based on? I somehow doubt that it's Nintendo's strategy to force consumers to connect their devices via a very long hdmi cable to tvs, it's a huge discomfort imo.

 

[Trago]

The final product should look sleeker than the dev kits.

 

[jackal27]

Still not sure how I feel about the detachable controllers, but I trust Nintendo in the comfort department.

Has there been any word on 3DS backwards comparability yet?

 

[Peltz]

I'll be upset if the controllers are flat rather than ergonomic like the Wii remotes. But the rest of this seems okay.

Not phenomenal or a new way to play though. But good enough for me to buy and enjoy as a Nintendo fan.

 

[L Thammy]

CHEESES SAVES.

Announce Jump Superstars 3 and I will be yours forever, Kimishima.

 

[dvolovets]

Two concerning things here are the lack of triggers and the possibility of accumulating tons of plastic if a lot of detachable controller options are released...

 

[Keyouta]

I hope the retail unit has smaller dimensions than that, it seems pretty hefty.

 

[Dystify]

Still not sure how I feel about the detachable controllers, but I trust Nintendo in the comfort department.

Has there been any word on 3DS backwards comparability yet?

Well the EG rumor said it's not backwards compatible. Kinda makes sense since they are not using 2 screens anymore. (Splitting the image between NX handheld and TV for duo screen would be dumb.)

I'm not sure how to feel about the detachable controllers either. It feels kind of like a hassle and a bit toy-ish. I want NX to feel like more than a toy. But, like you, I trust Nintendo in their decisions.

Even if all the rumors are wrong, there's one thing I definitely know about NX: It will be great.

 

[HerjansEagleFeeder]

The measurements of this thing seem really weird to me. Also, I still don't understand how going all digital should work with it. Are 32GB internal + max. 256GB SD card really enough for games that are supposed to take up to 32GB of space?

 

[maxcriden]

The measurements of this thing seem really weird to me. Also, I still don't understand how going all digital should work with it. Are 32GB internal + max. 256GB SD card really enough for games that are supposed to take up to 32GB of space?

It's a devkit, so, the measurements shouldn't necessarily be final.

 

[Doc Holliday]

Ugh getting more and more worried with every new leak. Getting Wii u vibes all over again.

Nintendo, stop overthinking it! Make a console and a portable with the same OS and compatible chips. There's no reason for a hybrid, no one is asking for it.

 

[Skittzo0413]

Well the EG rumor said it's not backwards compatible. Kinda makes sense since they are not using 2 screens anymore. (Splitting the image between NX handheld and TV for duo screen would be dumb.)

I'm not sure how to feel about the detachable controllers either. It feels kind of like a hassle and a bit toy-ish. I want NX to feel like more than a toy. But, like you, I trust Nintendo in their decisions.

Even if all the rumors are wrong, there's one thing I definitely know about NX: It will be great.

The EG rumor seemed to be implying that it won't be backward compatible with the Wii U, though it wasn't clear. You could easily play 3DS/DS titles by turning the screen into portrait mode, though that depends on how the controllers can attach. An ARM CPU would allow for relatively easy 3DS BC hardware wise though.

 

[MuchoMalo]

Surprised to read the former. How come?

Pessimism.

Edit: Actually, speaking of which people need to keep in mind that this has to be much thinker than a phone in order to have triggers. I'm going to stop it there, though, since the unreasonable expectations will never die.

 

[UnemployedVillain]

Are people here really expecting a wired connection to a TV? For a controller being released in 2017? Really?? Either that dev kot only or we're missing some crucial related information.

It seems fairly certain the controller "pieces" don't have any HW so it's not like they could be used separately from the screen without something replacing it that has a wireless radio and other HW to interpret inputs

 

[Vena]

Pessimism.

Also illogical but we're used to that from you.

 

[Skittzo0413]

Are people here really expecting a wired connection to a TV? For a controller being released in 2017? Really?? Either that dev kot only or we're missing some crucial related information.

It seems fairly certain the controller "pieces" don't have any HW so it's not like they could be used separately from the screen without something replacing it that has a wireless radio and other HW to interpret inputs

What makes you say that? One of the previous reports stated that these controller pieces had motion sensing capabilities, making them similar to Wii motion+ controllers. Having a rechargeable battery in each controller doesn't seem like a big deal, and the handheld can charge those batteries when it's all assembled.

 

[TunaLover]

Ugh getting more and more worried with every new leak. Getting Wii u vibes all over again.

Nintendo, stop overthinking it! Make a console and a portable with the same OS and compatible chips. There's no reason for a hybrid, no one is asking for it.

Seriously, those attached controllers sound like they deseperately want to reinvent the wheel. Why can't we have a normal controller, and they goes crazy innovative with games?

 

[Luigiv]

I did a quick sketch of the given dimensions and man, they're totally out of whack. I hope Laura Kate made a mistake on the width* or at the very least, the final unit has less awkward dimensions. 281mm wide is ridiculous.

*I suspect this is probably the case and the thing is actual ~205 including the controllers, not minus them.

 

[sixteen-bit]

Lack of region lock

Praise Cheeseus

 

[maxcriden]

Pessimism.

Edit: Actually, speaking of which people need to keep in mind that this has to be much thinker than a phone in order to have triggers. I'm going to stop it there, though, since the unreasonable expectations will never die.

So the triggers would need to be on the tablet, you mean? It's not reasonable they could fit on the detacha-controllers? (No knock on pessimism from me when it comes to setting reasonable expectations!)

 

[Doc Holliday]

I'm not sure how to feel about the detachable controllers either. It feels kind of like a hassle and a bit toy-ish. I want NX to feel like more than a toy. But, like you, I trust Nintendo in their decisions.

Even if all the rumors are wrong, there's one thing I definitely know about NX: It will be great.

Not sure how anyone can feel like this after the Wii and Wii U.

 

[Anth0ny]

If the dock essentially does nothing for the NX and the games just play 720p on the tv, then I'm expecting a NX console too. You don't go from 1080p Smash Bros to 720p on tv.

do you think nintendo, or the audience they're primarily trying to sell this thing to, really gives a fuck?

i'm fully expecting the next smash to be 720p and look slightly worse than smash 4 wii u. it's not the end of the world.



and it's pretty clear that analog triggers aren't happening at this point. nintendo doesn't see the importance of them.

 

[BRocknRolla]

I did a quick sketch of the given dimensions and man, they're totally out of whack. I hope Laura Kate is made a mistake on the width or at the very least, the final unit has less awkward dimensions. 281mm wide is ridiculous.

Bezels on bezels. I don't buy that design.

 

[Schnozberry]

What makes you say that? One of the previous reports stated that these controller pieces had motion sensing capabilities, making them similar to Wii motion+ controllers. Having a rechargeable battery in each controller doesn't seem like a big deal, and the handheld can charge those batteries when it's all assembled.

There was a patent filing for IR based controller accessories, and I think many people took that as being related to the primary NX controllers.

 

[MuchoMalo]

Also illogical but we're used to that from you.

I just find it weird that this is the one thing which hasn't been mentioned by anyone at all.

do you think nintendo, or the audience they're primarily trying to sell this thing to, really gives a fuck?

i'm fully expecting the next smash to be 720p and look slightly worse than smash 4 wii u. it's not the end of the world.



and it's pretty clear that analog triggers aren't happening at this point. nintendo doesn't see the importance of them.

I knew that you were of the opinion that NX will be weaker than Wii U, but less than half as powerful? Aren't you taking it a bit far there?

 

[UnemployedVillain]

do you think nintendo, or the audience they're primarily trying to sell this thing to, really gives a fuck?

i'm fully expecting the next smash to be 720p and look slightly worse than smash 4 wii u. it's not the end of the world.

Uh, yes? Despite the narrative people have constructed about Nintendo, their systems have never gone backwards and games have never regressed from their predecessors

 

[gregor7777]

It is a gaming tablet. Full stop.

 

[TunaLover]

I did a quick sketch of the given dimensions and man, they're totally out of whack. I hope Laura Kate is made a mistake on the width or at the very least, the final unit has less awkward dimensions. 281mm wide is ridiculous.

LOL, Wii U already has alot of wasted area/plastic, but this one is ridiculous.

 

[……forgetit]

Can someone take the dimensions and overlay them with a new 3ds xl so I can get a sense of scale?

 

[maxcriden]

There was a patent filing for IR based controller accessories, and I think many people took that as being related to the primary NX controllers.

Hm, I just want to clarify here that I don't think the detachable controllers, whether they attach to form one controller or whether as rumored they are two separate controllers, will be the primary input method for playing NX at home. I presume there will be a basic Wii U Pro-type controller for that.

 

[wild wild rice]

I did a quick sketch of the given dimensions and man, they're totally out of whack. I hope Laura Kate made a mistake on the width or at the very least, the final unit has less awkward dimensions. 281mm wide is ridiculous.

Holy shite. Do you have a GamePad you could put next to it for comparison's sake?

 

[Flipyap]

I did a quick sketch of the given dimensions and man, they're totally out of whack. I hope Laura Kate made a mistake on the width or at the very least, the final unit has less awkward dimensions. 281mm wide is ridiculous.

Nintendo lyNX

 

[Gator86]

Either to mislead the public before the reveal and then show something better or to give false information to certain sources so Nintendo can trace who is leaking their info.

Have there ever been actual evidence of a gaming company doing this in the recent past? Message board posters throw it out incessantly, but it seems unlikely, to say the least, every leak is some corporate plot. It just seems like tales from my ass people toss out to try and seem more thoughtful than the average person posting in a rumor thread.

 

[Plinko]

I did a quick sketch of the given dimensions and man, they're totally out of whack. I hope Laura Kate made a mistake on the width* or at the very least, the final unit has less awkward dimensions. 281mm wide is ridiculous.



*I suspect this is probably the case and the thing is actual ~205 including the controllers, not minus them.

Right. I don't buy the original data numbers. That not only looks bizarre, it is way too unwieldy. Looks like it would double as a coffee table.

 

[Schnozberry]

Uh, yes? Despite the narrative people have constructed about Nintendo, their systems have never gone backwards and games have never regressed from their predecessors

There's no reason to assume this will go backwards either, other than the weird self loathing that seems to creep into Nintendo threads.

 

[LordRaptor]

LOL, Wii U already has alot of wasted area/plastic, but this one is ridiculous.

the WiiU gamepads 'wasted' plastic is so that its ergonomic and you can hold it like a controller without your hands being in a claw or obscuring the screen

 

[oti]

I did a quick sketch of the given dimensions and man, they're totally out of whack. I hope Laura Kate made a mistake on the width* or at the very least, the final unit has less awkward dimensions. 281mm wide is ridiculous.



*I suspect this is probably the case and the thing is actual ~205 including the controllers, not minus them.

Jeeeez. That's too big.

 

[Plum]

It really is only a matter of time now until we get a PS Slim-type leak. I don't know what Nintendo's doing but if this thing really isn't going to be revealed until the end of the month, or god forbid January, then we'll know practically all about it before Nintendo has a chance to show it to us the way they want to.

 

[Roto Prime]

Praise Cheeseus

OMG sooooo funny lolol \( ^ • ^ )/ Praise Cheeseus!!

 

[Luigiv]

Holy shite. Do you have a GamePad you could put next to it for comparison's sake?

Sure, I can do that. While you wait, that's an A4 sheet of paper, if that helps any.

 

[Skittzo0413]

I just find it weird that this is the one thing which hasn't been mentioned by anyone at all.

It could very well be that the people describing the devkit are assuming that everyone assumes there will be standard shoulder and trigger buttons, so they aren't bothering to mention it. Some tweeting might help us get some answers, because I would be pretty shocked if this had neither shoulder buttons nor triggers.

 

[Schnozberry]

Hm, I just want to clarify here that I don't think the detachable controllers, whether they attach to form one controller or whether as rumored they are two separate controllers, will be the primary input method for playing NX at home. I presume there will be a basic Wii U Pro-type controller for that.

I would agree that a seperate controller for docked use is very likely, but I don't think Nintendo envisions the primary use of NX to be docked mode.

 

[TunaLover]

do you think nintendo, or the audience they're primarily trying to sell this thing to, really gives a fuck?

i'm fully expecting the next smash to be 720p and look slightly worse than smash 4 wii u. it's not the end of the world.



and it's pretty clear that analog triggers aren't happening at this point. nintendo doesn't see the importance of them.

But it was Nintendo that announced with bells and whistles than Sm4sh was going to be 1080p, they even compared it to 3DS resolution, now this specific resolution was needed for 8 player Smash (me think), since the camera is zoomed out and you could loss detail.

 

[disap.ed]

If this thing ends up as large as it says then lmao. I did a measurement with tape and fuck me it's massive. It's rather thick and is almost wider than my Macbook's display. This is not a 'portable' console and would not fit into any bag I carry. Now imagine that monstrosity with a carrying case?! It'd be even larger!

I agree with that, way too big.
If the width of 205mm would be with controllers this would still allow for a ~4,5-5,0" display, which would look great at 720p.
Height would be okay with the mentioned 92mm and I can't argue with the thickness if it is nice to hold (unlike the 3DS).

I did a quick sketch of the given dimensions and man, they're totally out of whack. I hope Laura Kate made a mistake on the width* or at the very least, the final unit has less awkward dimensions. 281mm wide is ridiculous.

*I suspect this is probably the case and the thing is actual ~205 including the controllers, not minus them.

I hope so as well.

 

[orioto]

I hope the proportions are not horrible, cause i always found the gamepad proportions super lame to begin with, with the screen part way too small, and way too much space between it and the buttons.. The worst is that having so much black around the screen makes it look smaller.

 

[L Thammy]

They should allow us to buy a second NX screen and attach it to be bottom so that we can play dual-screen NX games.

If the dock essentially does nothing for the NX and the games just play 720p on the tv, then I'm expecting a NX console too. You don't go from 1080p Smash Bros to 720p on tv.

Most people played Smash on 3DS, so I don't think that's the standard scenario.
But I still think there might be an NX console form.