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Mully said:
I don't care if his statements were deplorable and ignorant, study upon study has shown that shaming these people does nothing but further solidify their uninformed world view.

Engage and talk with these people, rather do exactly what they do with Muslims, people of color, immigrants, etc., by dehumanizing them.
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Na, anyone who says such statements can go fuck themselves.
 
Mully said:
I don't care if his statements were deplorable and ignorant, study upon study has shown that shaming these people does nothing but further solidify their uninformed world view.

Engage and talk with these people, rather do exactly what they do with Muslims, people of color, immigrants, etc., by dehumanizing them.
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So engage and talk with him. No one here's gonna stop you.
 
Mully said:
I don't care if his statements were deplorable and ignorant, study upon study has shown that shaming these people does nothing but further solidify their uninformed world view.

Engage and talk with these people, rather do exactly what they do with Muslims, people of color, immigrants, etc., by dehumanizing them.
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He is never going to accept the facts. Look at his goddamn Twitter page. He is a delusional idiot and no one here will able to convince him of his stupidity.

I'm not the fucking teacher of this first grader.
 
balladofwindfishes said:
If they impeach Trump over treason, it'll fracture the party and doom Pence to half a term of complete irrelevancy. If these accusations hold water, the entire GOP as a whole, is in for a rough couple of years.
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If they don't impeach him, in the face of evidence and proof of treason, things could be worse. That's grounds for revolution, described in the 2nd amendment as the peoples' right to protect themselves from a tyrannical government. It sucks but that's basically what it's for.

I do agree though that it will be tricky to watch a republican congress react to this.
 
Mully said:
I don't care if his statements were deplorable and ignorant, study upon study has shown that shaming these people does nothing but further solidify their uninformed world view.

Engage and talk with these people, rather do exactly what they do with Muslims, people of color, immigrants, etc., by dehumanizing them.
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It was a drive-by post with a clear agenda, fuck that.
 
Nazgul_Hunter said:
Lol clapper coming out to "apologize" basically confirms trump was lying and is probably his way to say "fuck you"
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To me it looks less like a confirmation or a denial of the situation but rather a public statement to rally the IC. They're all here to do the right thing for the country, basically.
 
Mully said:
I don't care if his statements were deplorable and ignorant, study upon study has shown that shaming these people does nothing but further solidify their uninformed world view.

Engage and talk with these people, rather do exactly what they do with Muslims, people of color, immigrants, etc., by dehumanizing them.
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Travis ‏@KingBroly 2h2 hours ago
Tillerson showed he's smarter than 99% of all politicians today. If he's not confirmed, we're fucked.
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No thanks.
 
Mully said:
I don't care if his statements were deplorable and ignorant, study upon study has shown that shaming these people does nothing but further solidify their uninformed world view.

Engage and talk with these people, rather do exactly what they do with Muslims, people of color, immigrants, etc., by dehumanizing them.
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Nah dude, fuck that guy.

I'm still just so embarrassed for him.
 
Mully said:
I don't care if his statements were deplorable and ignorant, study upon study has shown that shaming these people does nothing but further solidify their uninformed world view.

Engage and talk with these people, rather do exactly what they do with Muslims, people of color, immigrants, etc., by dehumanizing them.
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Do it yourself.
 
Sheesh, if there was ever a more relevant time for that film adaptation of The Honourable Schoolboy, this would kinda be it.

On a less silly note, this is stressful to watch unfold. WSJ releasing Christopher Steele's name is despicable, too.
 
Mully said:
I don't care if his statements were deplorable and ignorant, study upon study has shown that shaming these people does nothing but further solidify their uninformed world view.

Engage and talk with these people, rather do exactly what they do with Muslims, people of color, immigrants, etc., by dehumanizing them.
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Sorry, but there is a point of no return with deplorables.

It is better to call out their posting habits than to let the ignorant fall for their bullshit.
 
Mully said:
I don't care if his statements were deplorable and ignorant, study upon study has shown that shaming these people does nothing but further solidify their uninformed world view.

Engage and talk with these people, rather do exactly what they do with Muslims, people of color, immigrants, etc., by dehumanizing them.
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Perhaps you two should engage together.
 
TheLostBigBoss said:
Na, anyone who says such statements can go fuck themselves.
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No. That's just wrong. You're continuing the cycle of hate that put us in this mess.

Actually talk and ask genuine questions with these people. You all have facts and the moral argument on your side, don't drop your morals to go on the same witch hunt that the ignorant people are on for liberals, facts, and anyone different. Be better than this.
 
Mully said:
I don't care if his statements were deplorable and ignorant, study upon study has shown that shaming these people does nothing but further solidify their uninformed world view.

Engage and talk with these people, rather do exactly what they do with Muslims, people of color, immigrants, etc., by dehumanizing them.
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How is it shaming when they're being told what they themselves said publically?
 
Mully said:
No. That's just wrong. You're continuing the cycle of hate that put us in this mess.

Actually talk and ask genuine questions with these people. You all have facts and the moral argument on your side, don't drop your morals to go on the same witch hunt that the ignorant people are on for liberals, facts, and anyone different. Be better than this.
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Yo, why aren't you engaging him? Stop telling people what to do and do it yourself.
 
BernardoOne said:
He is never going to accept the facts. Look at his goddamn Twitter page. He is a delusional idiot and no one here will able to convince him of his stupidity.

I'm not the fucking teacher of this first grader.
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Broly's the political equivalent of that scrub who keeps doing wake-up Shoryukens no matter how many times you crush counter his trash ass. Ain't ever gonna learn. Forever free.
 
Like if everything ends in a positive fashion, the movies about this are just going to be insane. You even have a built-in ticking clock for dramatic tension, with the inauguration drawing near
 
Mully said:
No. That's just wrong. You're continuing the cycle of hate that put us in this mess.

Actually talk and ask genuine questions with these people. You all have facts and the moral argument on your side, don't drop your morals to go on the same witch hunt that the ignorant people are on for liberals, facts, and anyone different. Be better than this.
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You can be better with him.
 
Mully said:
I don't care if his statements were deplorable and ignorant, study upon study has shown that shaming these people does nothing but further solidify their uninformed world view.

Engage and talk with these people, rather do exactly what they do with Muslims, people of color, immigrants, etc., by dehumanizing them.
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LOL. I've been trying to say the same thing for awhile now. gaf gonna gaf. Or to be fair, that's just the nature of the internet.
 
Anybody want to give me a summary of what is actually confirmed since yesterday (or a link with updates)? I know about yesterday's leak and how it apparently came from a former MI6 operative but the info wasn't confirmed. I also know that Trump denied it all today and called out CNN specifically.

I don't want to read 100+ pages here so I figured I'd ask for the latest.
 
Mully said:
No. That's just wrong. You're continuing the cycle of hate that put us in this mess.

Actually talk and ask genuine questions with these people. You all have facts and the moral argument on your side, don't drop your morals to go on the same witch hunt that the ignorant people are on for liberals, facts, and anyone different. Be better than this.
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feel free to private message him. i'm sure it will be riveting
 
Mully said:
I don't care if his statements were deplorable and ignorant, study upon study has shown that shaming these people does nothing but further solidify their uninformed world view.

Engage and talk with these people, rather do exactly what they do with Muslims, people of color, immigrants, etc., by dehumanizing them.
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Maybe in casual conversation, sure, but you can't reason with Internet trolls.
 
mid83 said:
Anybody want to give me a summary of what is actually confirmed since yesterday (or a link with updates)? I know about yesterday's leak and how it apparently came from a former MI6 operative but the info wasn't confirmed. I also know that Trump denied it all today and called out CNN specifically.

I don't want to read 100+ pages here so I figured I'd ask for the latest.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/11/us/politics/donald-trump-russia-intelligence.html?_r=0

Hot off the press, basically where we are and how we got here
 
Mully said:
No. That's just wrong. You're continuing the cycle of hate that put us in this mess.

Actually talk and ask genuine questions with these people. You all have facts and the moral argument on your side, don't drop your morals to go on the same witch hunt that the ignorant people are on for liberals, facts, and anyone different. Be better than this.
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Fuck those people. They do not deserve respect. They don't have any respect for anyone else.
 
Mully said:
No. That's just wrong. You're continuing the cycle of hate that put us in this mess.

Actually talk and ask genuine questions with these people. You all have facts and the moral argument on your side, don't drop your morals to go on the same witch hunt that the ignorant people are on for liberals, facts, and anyone different. Be better than this.
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In this thread, rife with information and various sources at all times, I'd rather point out that they're wrong and then not take a conversation any further than there. They're spreading disinformation. People are listening to that disinformation, and that's dangerous. Cut off the disinformation.
 
Ithil said:
Yes poor misunderstood guy, we should be understanding and try to engage
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Gorilla minds are better than hive minds

Mully said:
No. That's just wrong. You're continuing the cycle of hate that put us in this mess.

Actually talk and ask genuine questions with these people. You all have facts and the moral argument on your side, don't drop your morals to go on the same witch hunt that the ignorant people are on for liberals, facts, and anyone different. Be better than this.
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We were doing that, and then he kept saying dumb bullshit, and then someone showed us why we shouldn't waste our time engaging him.
 
Mully said:
I don't care if his statements were deplorable and ignorant, study upon study has shown that shaming these people does nothing but further solidify their uninformed world view.
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Eh, there is some evidence that ridicule does work sometimes.

That said, it's totally OK to not want to convince people or change their mind, especially those who are already entrenched. Ain't nobody got time for this shit and all that. :)

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Tarydax said:
Do it yourself.
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Or this, hah.
 
Mully said:
No. That's just wrong. You're continuing the cycle of hate that put us in this mess.

Actually talk and ask genuine questions with these people. You all have facts and the moral argument on your side, don't drop your morals to go on the same witch hunt that the ignorant people are on for liberals, facts, and anyone different. Be better than this.
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No, what put us in this mess was letting jackasses like these peddling their crazy-ass conspiracy theories and misinformation campaigns as simple "opinions".

Fuck them, there is nothing to engage. They are delusional idiots that won't ever listen to reason.
 
zethren said:
In this thread, rife with information and various sources at all time, I'd rather point out that they're wrong and then not take a conversation any further than there. They're spreading disinformation. People are listening to that disinformation, and that's dangerous. Cut off the disinformation.
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100%. Highlight the bullshit and identify it as such. The time for lattes and nice exchanges is behind us.
 
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