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If he ends up getting done in, this will ultimately be what screwed him over. Dude thought he was God and assumed he could get away with telegraphing so much hostility to the intelligence community without consequence.
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Reports on Russian connections to Trump [Summaries in OP] #GoldenShowers
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If he ends up getting done in, this will ultimately be what screwed him over. Dude thought he was God and assumed he could get away with telegraphing so much hostility to the intelligence community without consequence.
People with authority need to come forward and verify this stuff. There's such a ridiculous amount of smoke, yet no fire yet. I'm guessing it's out of fear of having their identity known, or something deeper.
RedAssedApe
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usually i'd agree but she seemed off her game in this interview and the one she did with seth myers.
RustyNails
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Hopefully someone leaks it on the night of inauguration.
BlazingDarkness
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Yes, it's simple. The man is not fit for the role of president. He is a slimy, pig-ignorant, illiterate businessman.
The sooner the powers that be in the US accept this and strip his title, instead of accepting everything blindly for the sake of democracy, the better. The problem is, we're probably going to have years of Trump burning bridges and destroying constitutional rights before anything happens.
The fact that he's not relinquishing his business in any real sense proves that he only has self-interest in mind, he gives no fucks about America.
Lord_Byron28
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You'd think the FBI and/or CIA could begin looking into his emails, phone records, bank records, tax records, etc. as well as possible interrogations with him and his entire staff, cabinet picks and all. Maybe Obama told them to hold off either until after Obama has left office or until Trump actually starts doing the things he says he going to do.
Ollie Pooch
In a perfect world, we'd all be homersexual
Well, I guess she's the face of the campaign in front of horrifying allegations. Lol. I'd love to know what's going on in her head. A master spin artist.
It looks like shes breaking at the seams.
She sold her soul for a warm seat years ago. I wouldn't give her more credit than just being conniving and knowing how to wrap word circles around people.
RustyNails
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The Christopher Steele guy already fled home, fearing for his safety from Russian agents. Imagine how lower level folks must be feeling. Russian spies usually find (and kill) their targets. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Litvinenko
WiiredShawn
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Ollie Pooch
In a perfect world, we'd all be homersexual
Oh, I don't admire her. She really is awful and seems she goes wherever the money is, not her morals.. she had Anderson flustered by the end though, he was basically kissing her ass.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
In addition to that, I'd wager Trump's only coherent thought is to continue putting forth the attitude he used to market himself to his base. A human wrecking ball with no regard for convention that will topple the establishment. For the moment, a lot of his base is still eating this up because they're either still intoxicated by winning, or they're too myopic to see that this isn't Trump doing what he promised, it's just a combination of Trump putting on a show and truly being incompetent, unfit for office.
Can't get over his tired, dejected walk away from today's press conference though. I wonder at what point may he really mentally collapse. Especially if he never gets the total adoration and deference he seems to feel he deserves for now being "the most important man in the world".
Knuckle Sandwich
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This is where i'm at. This must be the shit that Rick Wilson dude was teasing on Twitter. He was the campaign something or another for former CIA guy Evan McMuffin.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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I also noticed it with the first tweet response when Buzzfeed's article came out. It didn't match the way Trump normally calls out negative press at all.
PHOENIXZERO
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Goddamn, over 100K tweets, I've been a member longer but don't even have a 10th of that.
Fancyarcher
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Trump's response to this whole situation with the typical large type caps is all the evidence I need to know that he's indeed a Putin stooge. If he didn't have anything to hide, he wouldn't have responded at all, but Trump's gonna be Trump. He'll probably blow his cover eventually.
RustyNails
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Yeah the mcmuffin guy worked at CIA, and probably gave Rick Wilson some details which he then tweeted.
OMG, this is amazing LMAO I would watch the hell out of this!
Yeah, because unlike her Anderson has a conscience and he doesn't take pleasure in raking people over the coals... as much as I want them to finally start calling these people out on their garbage on live TV, they seem to want to dismantle them by the book. Not sure that's going to work with the Trump administration. Hasn't made a dent thus far and they give FAR too much air time to their nonsense. At least tonight Don Lemon told one he straight up wasn't making any sense.
Apparently the FBI spent months trying to get FISA warrants and got denied until October. By that point the kind of things they wanted to see would have likely been mostly completed on Trumps side.
Obama is in a tough spot. He really cannot be too aggressive or it will be spun as a Political Witchhunt and really start issues.
The safest way to deal with it also relies on hoping Republicans do the right thing. They need to deal with it so its not a "Democrat" Conspiracy or "coup" etc. Its going to cause backlash in the country no matter what but it would be better for the Nation for it to not be opposition party doing it.
Yeah, but shortly before that he said it isn't his job to like her personally.
So he was kind of backtracking off of that lol.
Yes but he's also such a dummy he'd be baited into replying even if he weren't guilty, lol. Guy can't help but implicate himself
She puts on a wide, fake smile every time that she says a blatant smile. Then an awkward pause happens, while Cooper is all like "dafuq?" and you can notice her internally panicking and thinking "fuck, fuck, fuck
".This is why I try not to watch these things. They make me uncomfortable and angry at the same time. It's a weird mix of feelings.
Ollie Pooch
In a perfect world, we'd all be homersexual
Yeah, she was definitely on the defensive this time playing the victim card for Donald which seems to be their MO when attacking doesn't work. Funny, because it's exactly the MO of an abusive narcissist. Ha!
I haven't checked Wilson's twitter account recently, but it definitely is. When the original Mother Jones article broke this story the weekend before the election he basically confirmed as much. It's actually kinda weird seeing this same stuff re-emerge over two months later after everything that has happened in the interim.
Pop-O-Matic
Banned
Writer Ken Bensinger (Joseph Gordon Levitt) sits at his desk in a cubicle farm, the name "Buzzfeed" visible on the wall behind him. While looking through his e-mail, he sees a new attachment saying "You'll want to see this." He takes a sip of coffee as he scrolls before his eyes bulge and he spits out the coffee.
[Joker and the Thief by Wolfmother starts playing]
Bensinger runs into an office where Miriam Elder (Maya Rudolph) is talking to Mark Schoofs (Stanley Tucci), he's panicking and holding a freshly printed document.
Bensinger: Guys, guys! I think-... I think I have a story. About Trump.
Elder: Pfft. [Taking paper] Like anybody gives a... What the-...?!
[Jump cut to Schoofs reading it]
Schoofs: No, actually I agree. I agree with the "What the-..." [Waves his hand to imply the final unspoken word].
Elder: How does this happen?
EARLIER...
Jeb Bush (Will Ferrel): [Facing camera] Hi! I'm Jeb Bush, and I'd sure like to be your president.
Cut to:
Jeb looking disappointed in a dark room, talking to an advisor (Ben Schwartz).
Jeb: How is he beating us? I just don't get it.
[Shot of Donald Trump (Alec Baldwin) at a campaign rally]
Advisor: I thought you had an exclamation point at the end of your name! It's time to get to action!
Jeb: ... Yeah.
Advisor: Step up!
Jeb: YEAH!
Cut to:
Jeb is on a phone.
Jeb: Hey... Who would I talk to about.... Hiring a spy?
Cut to:
Christopher Steele (Liam Neeson) meets with Jeb in a car in a parking garage. He's very intense.
FROM ADAM MCKAY
DIRECTOR OF "THE BIG SHORT" and "ANCHORMAN"
Steele: What is it you want?
Jeb: Well, if you could just... Find something. Like, maybe he cheated on some taxes, or maybe he said something offensive.
Steele: I'll start in Russia.
Jeb: Russia?
Steele: Russia.
Jeb: Why... why would you start in Russia?
Steele: Everything bad usually happens in Russia.
Jeb: ... Oh. [Smirks] Hey. We're kind of like James Bond and M, huh. Yeah, I'm M and you're George Lazenby.
[Steele stares, stone-faced.]
LATER
[Jeb sits in his pajamas reading the paper when the phone rings.]
Jeb: [Answers] Y'ello.
Steele: This is Steele. I have your information. It's big.
Jeb: Oh. Oh! No, that's okay. I'm actually out of the race. You don't have to-...
[Pause]
Jeb: ... Like.... Number 1?
John McCain (Bill Murray) stares at a document.
John McCain: .... Ha... Hahaha!
[In a hotel suite]
Trump: How bad are we talking?
Agent 1(Jordan Peele): ... Moscow, a few years ago.
Trump: ... Ah...
Agent 2(Keegan-Michael Key): Prostitution. Blackmail... Uh...
Agent 1: Illicit business ties.
Agent 2: And...
Agent 1: And...
Agent 2: Pee.
Agent 1: Yeah, pee.
Agent 2: [Nods]
Agent 1: People are probably gonna really latch onto... the pee.
Trump: ... Uhh...
[In an office]
Kellyanne Conway (Kate McKinnon): This might not be so bad, if it comes out. You know, maybe we could spin it. Like... You're improving Russian relations.
Trump: And, hey. Maybe there was a fire in the hotel.
Conway: [Winces]
Trump: ... And there wasn't any water. Someone had to put the fire out!
THE RIDICULOUS TRUE STORY
OF THE CRAZIEST SCANDAL IN AMERICAN POLITICAL HISTORY
Putin (Steve Carrell): [Chuckles nervously]
Big montage of quick cuts of shenanigans and character's reactions as the music gets to the last "Joker and the Thief" chorus repetition. Music stops.
GOLDENGATE
Trump is at press conference at Trump Tower.
Trump: No. No. Not you. No. Your organization is terrible.
COMING SOON
So have you submitted this to SNL yet?
UberTag
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My takeaway from this is that while Buzzfeed dumped everything, the Trump camp is laying the blame at CNN's feet for getting the ball rolling by acknowledging the existence of the dossier in the first place and giving Buzzfeed the justification in their minds to dump it for public dissemination.
Trump isn't going to war with the media per se so much as they're going to war with CNN, expecting to win and destroy the credibility of that organization - or get them to kowtow to the party line being fronted by their vetted "not fake news" media representatives (i.e. Lifezette.com) - and MSNBC smells the blood in the water and is positioning themselves as the potential benefactors in the mainstream press arena by playing ball with the disinformation/debunk game while CNN goes into full rebellion mode.
Morrigan Stark
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Had I seen this "trailer", say, just a few months ago, I'd have rolled my eyes at how far-fetched and outlandish it would be.
[script]
But now, if anything, this fake movie is tamer than real life. xD
Fancyarcher
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Writer Ken Bensinger (Joseph Gordon Levitt) sits at his desk in a cubicle farm, the name "Buzzfeed" visible on the wall behind him. While looking through his e-mail, he sees a new attachment saying "You'll want to see this." He takes a sip of coffee as he scrolls before his eyes bulge and he spits out the coffee.
[Joker and the Thief by Wolfmother starts playing]
Bensinger runs into an office where Miriam Elder (Maya Rudolph) is talking to Mark Schoofs (Stanley Tucci), he's panicking and holding a freshly printed document.
Bensinger: Guys, guys! I think-... I think I have a story. About Trump.
Elder: Pfft. [Taking paper] Like anybody gives a... What the-...?!
[Jump cut to Schoofs reading it]
Schoofs: No, actually I agree. I agree with the "What the-..." [Waves his hand to imply the final unspoken word].
Elder: How does this happen?
EARLIER...
Jeb Bush (Will Ferrel): [Facing camera] Hi! I'm Jeb Bush, and I'd sure like to be your president.
Cut to:
Jeb looking disappointed in a dark room, talking to an advisor (Ben Schwartz).
Jeb: How is he beating us? I just don't get it.
[Shot of Donald Trump (Alec Baldwin) at a campaign rally]
Advisor: I thought you had an exclamation point at the end of your name! It's time to get to action!
Jeb: ... Yeah.
Advisor: Step up!
Jeb: YEAH!
Cut to:
Jeb is on a phone.
Jeb: Hey... Who would I talk to about.... Hiring a spy?
Cut to:
Christopher Steele (Liam Neeson) meets with Jeb in a car in a parking garage. He's very intense.
FROM ADAM MCKAY
DIRECTOR OF "THE BIG SHORT" and "ANCHORMAN"
Steele: What is it you want?
Jeb: Well, if you could just... Find something. Like, maybe he cheated on some taxes, or maybe he said something offensive.
Steele: I'll start in Russia.
Jeb: Russia?
Steele: Russia.
Jeb: Why... why would you start in Russia?
Steele: Everything bad usually happens in Russia.
Jeb: ... Oh. [Smirks] Hey. We're kind of like James Bond and M, huh. Yeah, I'm M and you're George Lazenby.
[Steele stares, stone-faced.]
LATER
[Jeb sits in his pajamas reading the paper when the phone rings.]
Jeb: [Answers] Y'ello.
Steele: This is Steele. I have your information. It's big.
Jeb: Oh. Oh! No, that's okay. I'm actually out of the race. You don't have to-...
[Pause]
Jeb: ... Like.... Number 1?
John McCain (Bill Murray) stares at a document.
John McCain: .... Ha... Hahaha!
[In a hotel suite]
Trump: How bad are we talking?
Agent 1(Jordan Peele): ... Moscow, a few years ago.
Trump: ... Ah...
Agent 2(Keegan-Michael Key): Prostitution. Blackmail... Uh...
Agent 1: Illicit business ties.
Agent 2: And...
Agent 1: And...
Agent 2: Pee.
Agent 1: Yeah, pee.
Agent 2: [Nods]
Agent 1: People are probably gonna really latch onto... the pee.
Trump: ... Uhh...
[In an office]
Kellyanne Conway (Kate McKinnon): This might not be so bad, if it comes out. You know, maybe we could spin it. Like... You're improving Russian relations.
Trump: And, hey. Maybe there was a fire in the hotel.
Conway: [Winces]
Trump: ... And there wasn't any water. Someone had to put the fire out!
THE RIDICULOUS TRUE STORY
OF THE CRAZIEST SCANDAL IN AMERICAN POLITICAL HISTORY
Putin (Steve Carrell): [Chuckles nervously]
Big montage of quick cuts of shenanigans and character's reactions as the music gets to the last "Joker and the Thief" chorus repetition. Music stops.
GOLDENGATE
Trump is at press conference at Trump Tower.
Trump: No. No. Not you. No. Your organization is terrible.
COMING SOON
Damn man, this is incredible!!!
StrategyFan
Member
lol
love the part where she starts crying about how trump isn't getting as much respect as obama did 8 years ago
o rly?
Look at her in this March 2016 video when she was working for Cruz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUhK40_J90k
And then look at the Cooper video from today.
All of the life has been drained from her eyes and her soul is gone. When she was working for Cruz her smile at times actually seemed real, but ever since working for Trump it's like she became a demonic crypt keeper.
Yeah that's what I meant about him having a conscience. His internal tug of war was playing out on-screen for us. You could see him hitting his limits but at the same time he doesn't want to stoop to their level of just blasting words so it looks like endless noise.
Maybe they'll get vicious with the surrogates if some of this report starts getting validated.
Fancyarcher
Member
I'm really hoping he explodes during a conference, and flat out admits his ties to Russia because of pressure. I know it's not likely gonna happen, but it'd be so great to see.
PHOENIXZERO
Member
Oh my god... This is like "debating" science, especially evolution with with a "intelligent design" loving an evangelical.
David H Wong
Banned
EXACTLY. If a rumor is repeated by enough people, enough times, it HAS to be true. There is literally no counter-example anyone can possibly post to make that statement look ridiculous. You can't name even one time, ever, in the history of politics when a rumor has persisted unless it was absolutely based on fact.
So do we think it will JUST be impeachment, or will he get the death penalty for treason? Either way surely it will happen by next weekend. It's a done deal. No way all of you are going to be disappointed yet again.
considering what a partisan asshole he was this year, I'd believe it
Kadin
Member
I completely agree with your takeaway and I can see how that's definitely a possibility. But the fact that really irritates me in that interview is that Conway (and Trump obviously) is saying that what CNN was reporting was 'fake news' when in fact nothing they said was in fact fake. If they're pissed that their story created an opening for Buzzfeed and everyone else to unleash holy hell, that's an entirely different story.
IlGialloMondadori
Member
Wow. This was infuriating. I can't believe this is happening.
Lord_Byron28
Member
Thanks for the response. You are correct; the only thing that can defeat Trump is Republicans. Trump has already started a war with Democrats, The Media, Hollywood, and the Intelligence Community. Any one of those that Trump is at war with tries to impeach him, it will cause major/horrible uproar amongst his fanbase. Our only hope is the republicans.
Absolutely fucking shameful on MSNBC's part. Disgusting.
Ollie Pooch
In a perfect world, we'd all be homersexual
I wonder if she'd just come out of one of Trump's rages before that. He probably screamed at her. Either that or she's just worn out from the insanity.
More_Badass
Member
Never say never (or no way)
As much as I'm begging for everything to turn out exactly as we hope, I'm keeping my expectations at "expect the absolute worst, nothing will happen"
EatinOlives
Member
At this point I have no clue what game MSNBC is trying to play here. Honestly I don't think they know either.
Joe Scarborough will do anything and everything to get another interview with Trump, nothing else in the world matters more to him and I'm guessing he has as much pull with the higher ups as anyone on the network.
Wouldn't it depend on if Trump actually gets sworn? Not sure if that's a process that can be stopped at this point though.
WiiredShawn
Member
If the case turns out to be nothing, MSNBC gets a bump in the mainstream press world and among Trump's administration.
If the case ends up getting Trump impeached, MSNBC is still, well, MSNBC.
I'm guessing they have little to lose and are playing as such.
benicillin
Banned
It's an incredibly cynical game to be playing with first amendment rights under active threat, but they can do them. I'm just glad CNN and others have found their will to fight.
Well see the thing is....he's actually started wars with Republicans too....
Republicans taking out Trump IS the safest way to go. But even then there still would be uproar. He's radicalized a group so much that many of them are willing to turn against their party at this point. He's kind of made his own party that just used Republicans as an in.
The press are going to grovel at Trump's feet.
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