Ok,maybe I'm late to this, but I actually read the OP of the always hilarious "Why women criticize sexualization" thread and ... it's clinical insanity. Read this:
All those 'rebuttals' are so ... *weak*. Because they're so easily dismissed as wrong/delusional. This is what these people believe to be proper arguments? I'm in negative-awe.
@mods: I'd like to create a "Why men love sexualization in video games" thread, but I still don't have thread making privilege back. Could you create that thread if I provide the text and title?
Last time I checked sex positive feminism doesn't have anything to do with trying to police how other people look at and interpret sexual content. In fact it's supposed to be centered around personal choice regarding what one enjoys. That poster just applied the label to herself because describing yourself as sex positive sounds a lot better than sex negative which is more representative of her views. Also she claims that she "support women's right to control over their own bodies without judgement. " but the thread is absolutely filled with such judgements including the admonisment of works created by women.
In order to facilitate their judgement however they frame women who create works that they ideologically disagree with as either brainwashed/mentally challenged (this is where gender traitor/internalized misogyny comes in) and/or they completely remove the involved woman's agency from the decision to create such work. In other words, they reason that the only way a woman could ever create something they disagree with is not because she exercises her free will to create what she desires, but because she was somehow forced to by a man in any case they think they can argue it.
The agency thing is nonsense as they frequently argue that fictional characters do/don't have agency whenever it's convenient.
The call for dick physics is in the same general tier of "Super Mario in a bikini". It's not done because it's something that any audience is looking for in games, but specifically because they think it will make males uncomfortable. There are plenty of games that features men that are presented in a way that's for the intention of a presumably female audience finding them attractive, not much if any feature fat hairy plumbers in speedos.
Vote with your wallet is absolutely true here. There are plenty of games I'd like to try if some things were different, but I realize those things exist for a different audience, others who like things that I don't like. The sensible thing to do in this situation is wait for more games to come out and hope that they happen to tickle your fancy. This approach works pretty well, but when you want things that are you morally opposed to to disappear (and why wouldn't you if you find that they are morally repulsive and state this directly). Right now, there are plenty of games you can buy that don't have any kind of sexual content in them. But when you are disingenuously arguing for the removal of things you find morally repulsive, obviously the only natural conclusion here is to always argue that the amount of games available to your tastes are infinitesimally tiny.
Women who disagree have come into the thread to argue against them before. But it doesn't work out too well when the regulars think that women who disagree with them are mentally unfit to decide for themselves. Also easy to frame those who disagree as trolls or men in disguise leading to bans. The thread is thoroughly insulated from criticism as it's framed as encouraging sexism.
What I'd argue is the reframing of traditional religious conservative views towards women, clothing and their dignity are found outside of America. This is true.
It's very strange to me when people like this whip out the "you don't speak for all women!!!!" line when that's exactly what they are doing. They always frame their arguments as objective moral assessments and guidelines that they expect others to follow. There's no notion of or acknowledgement that other people have differing views when it comes to sexual content, and to allow those people to do as they please and simply not partake if it's not something that you enjoy.
Instead it's people who disagree with me and create/enjoy things I don't like are objectively morally culpable and terrible people. And the only path to getting the good person card back is to completely submit to all of their screeds concerning women, including gender traitors who dare to go against their narrative.