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[Chuckie]

I'll second this, I was reading through that last thread posted here and the "Sorry I'm quoting you..." and "Just quoting to say your amazing" posts are cringe as hell.

Why are you sorry you are quoting? That person went on to brown tongue the shit out out of her arse, pretty sure she isn't going to mind lol

Lol yeah I forgot the "sorry I am quoting you.." That one was groveling at its finest.

 

[Misc]

I agree that perfection is not achieved without some suffering. While I'm fortunate enough to hold a position with a lot of flexibility working hours, I too have worked overtime to finish projects in time out of sheer dedication for my work. As much as I like my job, I can't deny however that I would never crunch that much, as the job conditions at cdpr do not look healthy at all. Productivity also is severely reduced by poor work life balance so it's not just a matter of job quality but also poor management in general.

Also cyberpunk 2077 is still a commercial process which will inevitably make a much larger relative margin of profits that Herzog's masterpiece has made. Games might be art but they are not just art for art's sake, and I'd bet that not all developers see their profession as an art.

 

[Saruhashi]

CDPR developer speaks out against toxic workplace conditions during Cyberpunk 2077 development News

thanks to Mazzle for the grabs: credit to Toumari for grabbing these:

www.resetera.com

Ree outrage mobs every time things like this pop up:

It's like crack to these douchebags, need that fix of self-righteousness.

What annoys me is if you did work the extra hours and are well paid for them then use that money to get nice stuff or get yourself a promotion these are the first people moaning about "privilege" and spouting shit like "eat the rich".

Doing 14 to 16 hours a day is fine maybe once in a while. If it's every day for years then that's seriously unhealthy BUT that's also a lot of extra money. You could rack up some serious cash if you are on a decent wage.

At some point though responsibility does have to lie at the feet of the employee. At what stage do we say "OK if this job is that bad then you need to take personal responsibility for your own well being and leave".

Even if it means refusing to work more than your contracted hours and looking for a new job.

I dunno why we have to act like these devs don't have control of their own lives and just can't do anything other than work and work and work some more.

 

[Misc]

What annoys me is if you did work the extra hours and are well paid for them then use that money to get nice stuff or get yourself a promotion these are the first people moaning about "privilege" and spouting shit like "eat the rich".

Are they tho? I don't think these people are the same fucktards spending their lives on era.

Doing 14 to 16 hours a day is fine maybe once in a while. If it's every day for years then that's seriously unhealthy BUT that's also a lot of extra money. You could rack up some serious cash if you are on a decent wage.

At some point though responsibility does have to lie at the feet of the employee. At what stage do we say "OK if this job is that bad then you need to take personal responsibility for your own well being and leave".

Even if it means refusing to work more than your contracted hours and looking for a new job.

I dunno why we have to act like these devs don't have control of their own lives and just can't do anything other than work and work and work some more.

I don't think that the problem is circumscribed to cdpr, as this looks like a much wider industry problem. It's not just a matter of leaving for a new job with better conditions if everyone is crunching the same. As said earlier, I agree that at least the developers getting paid for overtime at cdpr kinda mitigates the issue. The problem that emerged from that dev post however is that people who want to work their working hours are also pressured into crunching.

 

[Misc]

Imagine trying to talk your friend out of buying this game while the two of you are at Target or something, "Dude, don't you know that CDPR made the developers work overtime in a toxic environment, and CDPR has made transphobic tweets prior?! My sweet summer child!" He'd have the employee unlock the end cap case, and already be on his way to the car, abandoning you at the store, for being such a self-righteous cunt.

This was actually my original point. We can disagree on whether crunch is good or bad, and I'm not here to change your minds ofc.

What I think is absolutely demented is how people on era believe they have the moral high ground simply for declaring they're not buying the game and shaming other people for buying it. Same shit that went down in the harry potter threads. As if the game is not gonna sell like hotcakes anyways.

 

[teezzy]

What annoys me is if you did work the extra hours and are well paid for them then use that money to get nice stuff or get yourself a promotion these are the first people moaning about "privilege" and spouting shit like "eat the rich".

Doing 14 to 16 hours a day is fine maybe once in a while. If it's every day for years then that's seriously unhealthy BUT that's also a lot of extra money. You could rack up some serious cash if you are on a decent wage.

At some point though responsibility does have to lie at the feet of the employee. At what stage do we say "OK if this job is that bad then you need to take personal responsibility for your own well being and leave".

Even if it means refusing to work more than your contracted hours and looking for a new job.

I dunno why we have to act like these devs don't have control of their own lives and just can't do anything other than work and work and work some more.

Because people in 2020 are being brainwashed into misconstruing victimhood for leverage and power. You are 100% correct though.

 

[#Phonepunk#]

Kyuji has had knives out for this game for tRaNsPhObE cRiMe for a long time now

so this shit is no surprise. they are on a holy crusade to make people not play this game.

 

[Saruhashi]

Are they tho? I don't think these people are the same fucktards spending their lives on era.

I don't think that the problem is circumscribed to cdpr, as this looks like a much wider industry problem. It's not just a matter of leaving for a new job with better conditions if everyone is crunching the same. As said earlier, I agree that at least the developers getting paid for overtime at cdpr kinda mitigates the issue. The problem that emerged from that dev post however is that people who want to work their working hours are also pressured into crunching.

I mean I would definitely say its a problem but it's a problem that realistically needs to be fixed by people just saying "nah I will just be working my 40 hours this week and enjoying my weekend, see ya".

Employees need to understand their contracts and stand up for themselves.

I would be a lot more sympathetic if this was some run down town in a developing nation where the only choices are work at the local factory for 12 hours a day or die in a ditch.

I am going to assume though that if someone is skilled enough to get a job at CDPR, resourceful and competent enough to get the qualifications for that field and navigate the recruitment process then that person is well placed to find other work in other sectors.

Now, if working on projects like this was their dream job then I have sympathy but again at some point personal responsibility needs to be taken.

The outside factor here is that we already know the kind of people Jason Schrier and Jim Sterling are and how they feel about "capitalism" and what the prevailing worldview is on ResetEra so they become a bit untrustworthy here also since they have a clear agenda and see this as an opportunity to push it.

I think in video game terms its kind of shocking for us to be all excited about new consoles that are manufactured in who knows what kind of conditions but we're up in arms over a developer paying their employees to work more.

I know it's possible to care about multiple things at once but in the video game industry I feel like crunch at CDPR is not a major injustice.

 

[Daffy Duck]

Jason was praying for something like that to slam dunk the "I'M RIGHT" tweet.

First it was Rockstar with RDR2, then it was ND with TLoU2, now it's CDPR with Cyberpunk 2077. Who will it be next?

 

[captainraincoat]

My interactions with Nep were fine. She does not deserve the reputation she has outside ResetEra. I don't know how she deals with folks like Excel. Posters who derail a thread with their own negativity and problems almost every time.

She's doing exactly what the whole Bill Burr monologue is making fun of. A white women barging into a thing about POC and making it all about herself, then using claims of sexism as a shield from criticism.

I doubt Neph can get to her.

Also I'd just like to say just because a few trans people act weird, doesn't mean all are bad. Most trans people are not represented by the few comments quoted here.

You obviously have not arrived at the acceptance stage in the grief cycle...give it some more time and you will realise she is an angry shitty person who only got the keys to the ban hammer draw to help fudge over bdubs past racist posts

I'm sure hitler had some good days where he had tea parties with little girls and patted German Shepard's

 

[Slurpy2k20]

Kyuji has had knives out for this game for tRaNsPhObE cRiMe for a long time now

so this shit is no surprise. they are on a holy crusade to make people not play this game.

Hey, let's quote a tweet of a trans people with blue hair, that proves something!

Please point me to where the fuck I can buy a phone/laptop/tablet/BT headphones/etc etc without internal batteries?

What a bunch of virtue signalling liars.

 

[Ymir]

Hey, let's quote a tweet of a trans people with blue hair, that proves something!

Please point me to where the fuck I can buy a phone/laptop/tablet/BT headphones/etc etc without internal batteries?

What a bunch of virtue signalling liars.

Lol, @ not replacing a graphics card until they don't play his games.... Isn't this what everyone does? It's not like he's waiting until he can't even play his games on low settings, he's waiting until he can't do the graphics that he wants not that they're not playable. Internal battery thing is also hilarious considering most devices don't use AA or other easily replaceable batteries. Has he never bought a switch/PS4? Because both of those controllers use evil internal batteries so he's stuck with xbox or nothing if you're willing to believe him at face value.

 

[nush]

Hey, let's quote a tweet of a trans people with blue hair, that proves something!

Please point me to where the fuck I can buy a phone/laptop/tablet/BT headphones/etc etc without internal batteries?

What a bunch of virtue signalling liars.

Capsule coffee is expensive and less environmentally friendly than just grinding beans. But sure he feels good about recycling a little bit of aluminium.

 

[teezzy]

S Slurpy2k20

Your move, nazi.

 

[nush]

My interactions with Nep were fine. She does not deserve the reputation she has outside ResetEra. I don't know how she deals with folks like Excel. Posters who derail a thread with their own negativity and problems almost every time.

She's doing exactly what the whole Bill Burr monologue is making fun of. A white women barging into a thing about POC and making it all about herself, then using claims of sexism as a shield from criticism.

I doubt Neph can get to her.

Also I'd just like to say just because a few trans people act weird, doesn't mean all are bad. Most trans people are not represented by the few comments quoted here.

 

[Slurpy2k20]

S Slurpy2k20

Your move, nazi.

I'm confused, pls clarify.

 

[teezzy]

I'm confused, pls clarify.

" Please point me to where the fuck I can buy a phone/laptop/tablet/BT headphones/etc etc without internal batteries? "

I tried. They can't all be zingers.

 

[Slurpy2k20]

" Please point me to where the fuck I can buy a phone/laptop/tablet/BT headphones/etc etc without internal batteries? "

I tried. They can't all be zingers.

 

[Dick Jones]

Photo of Hitler and Nepenthe. I now understand why he committed suicide shortly afterwards.

 

[captainraincoat]

Photo of Hitler and Nepenthe. I now understand why he committed suicide shortly afterwards.

Hitler probably would of exterminated furries

probably the only thing good hitter would of done if that was the case

 

[nush]

Oh right, now they care about Barron when it suits their narrative.

 

[nyr88nyg]

Ree locked the thread about the hunter bombshell. Fascist as hell.

 

[nush]

 

[#Phonepunk#]

the Hunter Biden stuff is not on the front page. its not on page 2 either. it's a tiny one-page thread on page 3. they don't even want to look at it. the thread will probably get locked soon.

NYPost claims PC repair shop has Hunter Biden's Burisma emails

Please disregard this thread. Go here if you're interested in discussing this topic: https://www.resetera.com/threads/barrs-%E2%80%98unmasking%E2%80%99-probe-concludes-without-charges-or-any-public-report-so-were-shifting-to-but-his-emails.306155/ (Requested this thread be locked).

www.resetera.com

they are ignoring it entirely as right wing trash. instead this is the top threads:

 

[#Phonepunk#]

lol they said they "already have a thread on this" and linked to

Barr's ‘unmasking’ probe concludes without charges or any public report... so we're shifting to "but HIS emails!" News

Yep this is what would slow down lies

www.resetera.com

 

[nush]

the Hunter Biden stuff is not on the front page.

can you give us non Americans some cliff notes on what this even is?

 

[Goro Majima]

This can't be someone who is regularly sexually active.

I get the implication of entrapment here but using condoms for *months* is just really weird to me and not something I've heard of since high school.

 

[SegaManAU]

Yeah that person has gone off the deep end in my opinion. She is also in the feedback thread blasting the mods for not banning discussion on the Hogwarts game and JK Rowling in general. Which I would be fine with banning JK topics because the precedent has already been set with people like Boogie and Joe Rogan, but banning discussion about the game is lunacy. Warner Bros has already come out and publicly stated that JK Rowling is not directly involved with the project. So at most she is just going to receive basic royalties off of it and if people wanna boycott for that reason that's fine with me.


But I draw the line at banning discussion about the game. Especially since she isn't even involved with it beyond it using her IP as a starting point. If she was the lead narrative director or something then yeah I could at least understand the sentiment, but she's not. It's stupid.

Haha, I'm so far behind.

Why do they hate Boogie now?

 

[teezzy]

If that dude's smart enough to be a dentist, then he's smart enough to pull out.

 

[nush]

If that dude's smart enough to be a dentist, then he's got enough experience of pulling out.

Corrected.

 

[nush]

This can't be someone who is regularly sexually active.

I get the implication of entrapment here but using condoms for *months* is just really weird to me and not something I've heard of since high school.

I do. "I forgot to take my pill"and alcohol affecting the effectiveness of the pill are real factors. I only creampied randos.

 

[Deleted member 17706]

the Hunter Biden stuff is not on the front page. its not on page 2 either. it's a tiny one-page thread on page 3. they don't even want to look at it. the thread will probably get locked soon.

NYPost claims PC repair shop has Hunter Biden's Burisma emails

Please disregard this thread. Go here if you're interested in discussing this topic: https://www.resetera.com/threads/barrs-%E2%80%98unmasking%E2%80%99-probe-concludes-without-charges-or-any-public-report-so-were-shifting-to-but-his-emails.306155/ (Requested this thread be locked).

www.resetera.com

they are ignoring it entirely as right wing trash. instead this is the top threads:

PRIME DAY being the busiest thread

We gotta fight for Worker Solidarity, though, guys!

CONSOOOOM

 

[benjipwns]

Hey, let's quote a tweet of a trans people with blue hair, that proves something!

That Kyuuji found this word salad profound enough to remember a month later and use as some kind of response to an actual ethical question is not surprising.

 

[ManaByte]

can you give us non Americans some cliff notes on what this even is?

Joe Biden's crackhead son dropped off his MacBook for repair and forgot about it. The repair shop found 40,000 emails proving Biden used his position to get his son a job in Ukraine.

Oh yea, there are also pics and video of Hunter Biden smoking crack and fucking a minor.

 

[nush]

Joe Biden's crackhead son dropped off his MacBook for repair and forgot about it. The repair shop found 40,000 emails proving Biden used his position to get his son a job in Ukraine.

Oh yea, there are also pics and video of Hunter Biden smoking crack and fucking a minor.

Oh it's nothing then.. "It's OK when we do it, Trump did it first and far worse". #whateverittakes endgamecaptainamerica.JPG

 

[Ionian]

Another classic thread in the making. OP just rambles incoherently, first response seems to be making sense but then fucks it all up with;

"I had no fucking clue who I was or what I was doing at that age. I knew the basic right from wrong, general law, good morals but I didn't even know how to do laundry, groceries and a lot of social problems as well. It's a really vulnerable point of being new to freedoms and more adult consequences for your actions."

Is this why there are so many threads asking how to shit and piss?

I'm really tired of seeing the infantalization of young adults(18-20) online

Like literally every other week on twitter, there's always some tweet which gets hundreds of thousands of likes saying "18 and 19 aren't adults, they end in teen. they are literally children/babies" or even "20 is a still kid, you're not grown up" and it's absurd. Look, 18-20 year olds are young...

www.resetera.com

Bonus content from the person who replied to the OP:

 

[Dav-Kripler]

Jason was praying for something like that to slam dunk the "I'M RIGHT" tweet.

First it was Rockstar with RDR2, then it was ND with TLoU2, now it's CDPR with Cyberpunk 2077. Who will it be next?

After fallout 76, I imagine there is some serious pressure on starfield especially after the acquisition...

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

After fallout 76, I imagine there is some serious pressure on starfield especially after the acquisition...

Halo and Battletoads say hi.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

I seriously wonder if they will completely ban the existence of Cyberpunk from that forum. Imagine pretending the biggest game of 2020 simply doesn't exist. And even if they allow it, will any thread about it be readable when most of the posts will be screeching instead of talking about playing the game?

 

[Flying Toaster]

Halo and Battletoads say hi.

This is true and it makes me sad.

The shit with CDPR and Cyberpunk is absolutely bonkers to me. The gymnastics some of those posters do to justify the outrage is pure Olympic Gold.

 

[Daffy Duck]

Cyberpunk 2077 Night City WIRE: Episode 4 |OT| The Street Finds Its Own Uses For Things [UPDATE: Console footage] OT

>Greetings Edgerunners! I've been rooting around in the disc we acquired from Arasaka and I discovered a link to a secure partition of data in the main server containing a bit more information about future broadcasts. It was highly encrypted; but I managed to hack it..._ >There is going to be...

www.resetera.com

Lol

God this person is a cunt

Cyberpunk 2077 Night City WIRE: Episode 4 |OT| The Street Finds Its Own Uses For Things [UPDATE: Console footage] OT

>Greetings Edgerunners! I've been rooting around in the disc we acquired from Arasaka and I discovered a link to a secure partition of data in the main server containing a bit more information about future broadcasts. It was highly encrypted; but I managed to hack it..._ >There is going to be...

www.resetera.com

 

[Ionian]

This is true and it makes me sad.

The shit with CDPR and Cyberpunk is absolutely bonkers to me. The gymnastics some of those posters do to justify the outrage is pure Olympic Gold.

 

[Daffy Duck]

Cyberpunk 2077 Night City WIRE: Episode 4 |OT| The Street Finds Its Own Uses For Things [UPDATE: Console footage] OT

>Greetings Edgerunners! I've been rooting around in the disc we acquired from Arasaka and I discovered a link to a secure partition of data in the main server containing a bit more information about future broadcasts. It was highly encrypted; but I managed to hack it..._ >There is going to be...

www.resetera.com

They're so desperate to shit up any CP2077 thread

 

[cormack12]

Cyberpunk 2077 Night City WIRE: Episode 4 |OT| The Street Finds Its Own Uses For Things [UPDATE: Console footage] OT

>Greetings Edgerunners! I've been rooting around in the disc we acquired from Arasaka and I discovered a link to a secure partition of data in the main server containing a bit more information about future broadcasts. It was highly encrypted; but I managed to hack it..._ >There is going to be...

www.resetera.com

They're so desperate to shit up any CP2077 thread

The OT is going to be so fucking juicy lol

 

[teezzy]

I'm gonna laugh so hard if Digital Foundry's Cyberpunk videos have some silly ass disclaimer on them because that one dude is afraid Era is going to yell at him again

 

[eot]

Totally normal title

Transphobic, anti-BLM, Covid-19 denier actor Gina Carano (Cara Dune from The Mandalorian) to get her own Star Wars spinoff [Up: Nope, also fired!] Rumor - COVID

More at: https://lrmonline.com/news/cara-dune-getting-her-own-star-wars-disney-series-lrm-topshelf/ Disintegrate if old

www.resetera.com

 

[Jezbollah]

Unhinged.

 

[NeoIkaruGAF]

I seriously wonder if they will completely ban the existence of Cyberpunk from that forum. Imagine pretending the biggest game of 2020 simply doesn't exist. And even if they allow it, will any thread about it be readable when most of the posts will be screeching instead of talking about playing the game?

To think there's a very simple solution to their problem.

Shut the fuck up. Let the game come out. Let an OT be opened and thrive for a month or two until the game falls from the charts.

Then quietly start permabanning all the people who participated in the OT. They'll know what they"ve done, after all!

Would work like a charm for every pRobLeMAtIC game. Get clicks and traffic for allowing discussion of the game first. Ban the bigot scum who are OK with the game existing later.

 

[Jose92]

Dr Disrespect Gets His Own Skin And Map In Rogue Company

https://www.roguecompany.com/news/dr-disrespect-presents-the-arena Also there are tons of gameplay changes, more at the link above.

www.resetera.com

 

[recma12]

Jason was praying for something like that to slam dunk the "I'M RIGHT" tweet.

First it was Rockstar with RDR2, then it was ND with TLoU2, now it's CDPR with Cyberpunk 2077. Who will it be next?

GTA 6

Dr Disrespect Gets His Own Skin And Map In Rogue Company

https://www.roguecompany.com/news/dr-disrespect-presents-the-arena Also there are tons of gameplay changes, more at the link above.

www.resetera.com

LOL look at all these whiny little hating on the TWOTIME.

I don't even watch the streams but it made me happy as fuck to see that the guy bounced back very nicely on YouTube. Right in the face of all these ERA assholes.

Heard he even got Snoop Dogg and Odell Beckham on his stream. Nice!