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"nobody was banned for criticism", when criticizing moderation has to be the most frequent reason folks are getting banned. Only on Era.
Another thing to note is that Redcrayon wasn't in that final OT conversation - or any of them to be privy enough say something like that. It was only myself, one of my OT collaborators, Sophia and B-dubs on that fateful "trial by Discord". We hashed it out there and Redcrayon wasn't a part of it.

Sophia was the only one that mediated back and forth before that Discord "meeting". She was a big help and very nice. It's a shame now, that she probably believes the lies B-dubs and Redcrayon are spreading about me.
 
"Yes, we were fooled by Black Chamber"

...

What an embarrassingly deceiving thing to say. How did I "fool" "we"?

If being yourself and sincere fools someone - how false do you have to be to say something that weak just to save face?

He also could have said "Black Chamber was an alien all along and he left in his flying saucer after we spoke".

They would probably believe that too🤷‍♂️

That one's trivial indeed. Did they ask you your political leaning? Did they force you to take a side? Because, from what I saw, you were making a giant OT and offered all kinds of support, compromises, allowing all kinds of derails on your threads too. Let's say you voted Trump (you didn't, I know) - how does that disable you from making a good Cyberpunk thread? How does that mean you can't be supporting TransEra's fight? Tweets from 3 years ago... we had people in here 3 years ago, when the Era split happened, posting literal pornography, disgusting photoshops and insults aimed at this site's founder and users. Why would it matter if you "made a mistake" 3 years back if their errors on Gaf are not relevant? Or how B-Dubs has been trigger happy with the n-word in here?

I know, rhetorical questions, we know the answer. Still, to them, it's currently the new normal that even if you are with them, if you've once said something they don't like (on Era or otherwise), you're forever marked and deserve a permaban. People can't make a mistake and improve as human beings: did something dumb (to them) once or twice, you're forever done for. And in the end, that's what's going on with Cyberpunk too. The "did you assume our gender" tweet was a bit childish, but not malicious. The attack helicopter was definitely in poor taste, and the person was removed from his job for it. That's fucking it. The whole "mix it up" ads, the fact a woman dared cosplaying a trans character and such - these are just obvious attempts to find transphobia where they can't point out real cases in the game.

And to think that... there would be legitimate reasons to discuss about the creation of games. The unsustainability of triple-A gaming. The crunching. How some of the industry's best developers are receiving very low wages for the category on the account of living in Poland. The ridiculously early announcement and extreme hype cycle. The many delays. The worrying performance on last-gen consoles that were supposed to be the target hardware for this game. These aren't reasons to cancel the game, but they would make good discussions, regardless of which ones you find bad or agree with. But no, Era chose to chase ghosts instead, trying to find offensive material by cherrypicking social commentary in a dystopian future where everything and everyone is spectacularized and sexualized. From what we've seen, the game is not transphobic, unless it also hates gay people, males, females, rich, poor, migrants: since, you know, it's a dystopian game extremizing and exagerating a lot of things from our society.

You were mistreated on ResetEra, thrown out after thousands of posts in good faith. It's an old tale, many other people in this thread have been banned for asking a question, for questioning moderation, for posting one dumb joke or posting a take that was allowed by moderation days prior but suddenly they realized the statement is literally worse than Hitler so now it's a bannable offense. It sucks, because you were not paid by Era or CDPR to dedicate your time and energy to help the community get informed about Cyberpunk 2077, but you did it anyway. That's what people do for a community they enjoy. I know, I did it myself there. But shows how much they care and respect their userbase when they're ready to nuke prominent and helpful members for one mistake, when several staff members literally insult forum members on the Discord, where they constantly use off-site info they gathered about you without your permission, trying to own you on-site.

It's a place ran by vile people, who don't care about who's who in real life. They only care about adapting to their style, messaging and thinking on the forum. And now, outside of the forum too. Say or think the wrong thing, and the years of good you did are deleted in a second. Unless you're a VIP member of course, in which case you can harass and doxx members, leak private convos, insult anybody, wish death on folks you hate, derail every thread, bait folks into getting banned, and so on. And I'm only picking from episodes that happened last week!

I'm not gonna stan for GAF, I'm doing baby steps here myself so I can't champion for a place that I'm not familiar with yet. But regardless of what my experience will be, I can wish you the best of luck in discussing a game you are clearly hyped for here, without getting judged for dumb tweets from years ago, as if those tweets mean anything in your excitement for a videogame. Era sucked out the joy of discussing games. I think me and you both are here trying to find it back.
 

Kayhan

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Damage control efforts:
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Of course Xaszatm is going to lie about what happened, Redcrayon.

Same as Banshee mcspook, ShironRedshift , Shugga and the other trolls. That is literally why they are on your forum. To lie and stir shit up.

Wake the fuck up, dummies. You are being pulled around by your nose by people who are known trolls.
 
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Another thing to note is that Redcrayon wasn't in that final OT conversation - or any of them to be privy enough say something like that. It was only myself, one of my OT collaborators, Sophia and B-dubs on that fateful "trial by Discord". We hashed it out there and Redcrayon wasn't a part of it.

Sophia was the only one that mediated back and forth before that Discord "meeting". She was a big help and very nice. It's a shame now, that she probably believes the lies B-dubs and Redcrayon are spreading about me.

B-Dubs playing a part in your purity test has to be the most hilarious part, considering the racist and sexist comments he used to make on Gaf years back. But that's the thing: staff and VIP members can and did get away with racism, islamophobia, harassment, doxxing, off-site drama. Playing favourites is the start of a forum's downfall, always.
 
Another thing to note is that Redcrayon wasn't in that final OT conversation - or any of them to be privy enough say something like that. It was only myself, one of my OT collaborators, Sophia and B-dubs on that fateful "trial by Discord". We hashed it out there and Redcrayon wasn't a part of it.

Sophia was the only one that mediated back and forth before that Discord "meeting". She was a big help and very nice. It's a shame now, that she probably believes the lies B-dubs and Redcrayon are spreading about me.
I felt pretty bad for Sophia when she got bullied by her "allies". These people have no shame.
 

Kayhan

Member
Why do the mods delete all the evidence that B-Dubs is a homophobic transphobic sexist racist?

Nobody is disputing the evidence yet it gets deleted. Why can't it at least be discussed?

Why is Karak banned but Shinobi not?
 

Dick Jones

Gold Member
Isn't there actual employees of CDPR members of ERA or have they all high tailed it out? I'm surprised they haven't doxxed them since they have some info on them.
 
That one's trivial indeed. Did they ask you your political leaning? Did they force you to take a side? Because, from what I saw, you were making a giant OT and offered all kinds of support, compromises, allowing all kinds of derails on your threads too. Let's say you voted Trump (you didn't, I know) - how does that disable you from making a good Cyberpunk thread? How does that mean you can't be supporting TransEra's fight? Tweets from 3 years ago... we had people in here 3 years ago, when the Era split happened, posting literal pornography, disgusting photoshops and insults aimed at this site's founder and users. Why would it matter if you "made a mistake" 3 years back if their errors on Gaf are not relevant? Or how B-Dubs has been trigger happy with the n-word in here?

I know, rhetorical questions, we know the answer. Still, to them, it's currently the new normal that even if you are with them, if you've once said something they don't like (on Era or otherwise), you're forever marked and deserve a permaban. People can't make a mistake and improve as human beings: did something dumb (to them) once or twice, you're forever done for. And in the end, that's what's going on with Cyberpunk too. The "did you assume our gender" tweet was a bit childish, but not malicious. The attack helicopter was definitely in poor taste, and the person was removed from his job for it. That's fucking it. The whole "mix it up" ads, the fact a woman dared cosplaying a trans character and such - these are just obvious attempts to find transphobia where they can't point out real cases in the game.

And to think that... there would be legitimate reasons to discuss about the creation of games. The unsustainability of triple-A gaming. The crunching. How some of the industry's best developers are receiving very low wages for the category on the account of living in Poland. The ridiculously early announcement and extreme hype cycle. The many delays. The worrying performance on last-gen consoles that were supposed to be the target hardware for this game. These aren't reasons to cancel the game, but they would make good discussions, regardless of which ones you find bad or agree with. But no, Era chose to chase ghosts instead, trying to find offensive material by cherrypicking social commentary in a dystopian future where everything and everyone is spectacularized and sexualized. From what we've seen, the game is not transphobic, unless it also hates gay people, males, females, rich, poor, migrants: since, you know, it's a dystopian game extremizing and exagerating a lot of things from our society.

You were mistreated on ResetEra, thrown out after thousands of posts in good faith. It's an old tale, many other people in this thread have been banned for asking a question, for questioning moderation, for posting one dumb joke or posting a take that was allowed by moderation days prior but suddenly they realized the statement is literally worse than Hitler so now it's a bannable offense. It sucks, because you were not paid by Era or CDPR to dedicate your time and energy to help the community get informed about Cyberpunk 2077, but you did it anyway. That's what people do for a community they enjoy. I know, I did it myself there. But shows how much they care and respect their userbase when they're ready to nuke prominent and helpful members for one mistake, when several staff members literally insult forum members on the Discord, where they constantly use off-site info they gathered about you without your permission, trying to own you on-site.

It's a place ran by vile people, who don't care about who's who in real life. They only care about adapting to their style, messaging and thinking on the forum. And now, outside of the forum too. Say or think the wrong thing, and the years of good you did are deleted in a second. Unless you're a VIP member of course, in which case you can harass and doxx members, leak private convos, insult anybody, wish death on folks you hate, derail every thread, bait folks into getting banned, and so on. And I'm only picking from episodes that happened last week!

I'm not gonna stan for GAF, I'm doing baby steps here myself so I can't champion for a place that I'm not familiar with yet. But regardless of what my experience will be, I can wish you the best of luck in discussing a game you are clearly hyped for here, without getting judged for dumb tweets from years ago, as if those tweets mean anything in your excitement for a videogame. Era sucked out the joy of discussing games. I think me and you both are here trying to find it back.
Very well said🤘💯
 

#Phonepunk#

Banned
This is how communist states work, everyone at each other’s throats, children turning in their parents, etc. You will note how Era and all their SJW journalist friends are loudly pro socialism.

That they continue to say they are on the Right Side of History while supporting an ideology that killed ten times the people Hitler did is fucking bizarro land. You can buy Mao t-shirts from Amazon but no Hitler shirts despite the former killing more people. Socialism is openly endorsed by the death cult.

They truly are historically ignorant. 100 million dead in the crusade for their failed ideology and it is not enough bodies for these monsters.
 
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Aaaaand I'm banned
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They definitely monitor this thread at the very least, I dont post in this thread regularly and made a joke earlier and they banned me for that lol

Imagine being so insecure of your views, your community, your integrity, that you need to monitor users to make sure they don't criticize Era outside of Era. Or on Era for that matter, since discussing moderation is not allowed. Shut up and enjoy the ride!
 

benjipwns

Banned
Isn't there actual employees of CDPR members of ERA or have they all high tailed it out? I'm surprised they haven't doxxed them since they have some info on them.
I can't imagine any that have a "Verified" tag would dare show their face on around there anymore. Hell, I would want absolutely no part of it.
Plus, if they have low post counts, they're troll accounts.

And if they have three year old registration dates, they're troll accounts lurking in wait.

And if they have a thousand messages or more, they're troll accounts playing the long game like Black Chamber and Karak.
 
Aaaaand I'm banned
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They definitely monitor this thread at the very least, I dont post in this thread regularly and made a joke earlier and they banned me for that lol

I've not been banned yet. We will see if it comes. I've been critical but it's nothing that I didn't say over there. So we shall see if they legit just ban me for posting here.
 

Ol'Scratch

Member
How curious, because I could swear that I keep hearing something about off site drama not being allowed on resetera.
How disgustingly creepy does it feel knowing that not only do you have to give them a revealing email address, but knowing that the very second they can match you to a social media account of some kind everything you say or do even totally outside of era can and will be held and used against you.
Think about that for a moment.
They tell you to go out and report and turn in your neighbor if they have a different belief system. They tell you to leave your family and cut ties to friends and family if they have different opinions, and now this.
 
I think it was ShironRedshift with the pokemon avatar. They wrote a 19-page essay and also that horrible attack that I'm pretty sure your OT partner referenced as a vile post in their post that they were banned for.
That guy is totally unhinged and should visit a mental instituation as soon as possible.
 

Ktotheroc

Neo Member
Isn't there actual employees of CDPR members of ERA or have they all high tailed it out? I'm surprised they haven't doxxed them since they have some info on them.

Probably didn't sign up, because it would require you to dox yourself, essentially. A CDPR worker would have it tied back to them, because a paid e-mail is required (@cdpr.com or something like that would be a red flag).

With the way that site is going, I might just stick around here honestly.
 
This post probably sealed it. The only reason i'm sad about the ban is because I cant vote for Cyberpunk in the ERA GOTY awards :messenger_tears_of_joy:

Here is the deal, if it does, then that's OK. I'm 100% supportive of the trans community. My real life transfriends would attest to that. If Era only cares about appeasing a few members at the cost of everyone else then so be it. But let me make something clear. I don't think they should allow people to degrade trans people. That shit would piss me off. But being banned just because I post here as well is so beyond fucked.
 

Nobody_Important

“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
How curious, because I could swear that I keep hearing something about off site drama not being allowed on resetera.
How disgustingly creepy does it feel knowing that not only do you have to give them a revealing email address, but knowing that the very second they can match you to a social media account of some kind everything you say or do even totally outside of era can and will be held and used against you.
Think about that for a moment.
They tell you to go out and report and turn in your neighbor if they have a different belief system. They tell you to leave your family and cut ties to friends and family if they have different opinions, and now this.
That right there is why I never use the same username for anything twice. My twitter, my Reddit, my Gaf, my Era, my Steam, and my PSN account all have different usernames.
 
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ResetEra, I know you guys are reading this. I hope one of these days you all learn what it means to forgive people and yourselves. Holding on to this hatred - what good is it going to do for you? The more you all linger on the hatred towards others is how long it will take you "progressives" to progress to truly meaningful discussions. I need to get back into prayer because you all need to move on, just like the people who were scared to post in your forum because you wouldn't let it go if they posted the wrong opinion.

Love,
smileBrandon :)
 

benjipwns

Banned
How curious, because I could swear that I keep hearing something about off site drama not being allowed on resetera.
I'm pretty sure they've considered it "doxxing" to read their posts and make fun of them on other forums. I wouldn't know the details of course as I would never do that.
 
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Rillania

Gold Member
Welcome to NeoGAF and cheers for going straight to Gold and supporting the site. I've set you up with full account privileges. Glad to see you show up to defend BC against this witch hunt nonsense. Regarding how you treat your conservative friends and family as a liberal, that's a crucial mindset to have when social media and culture are trying to divide us all across political battle lines.

Thanks for the warm welcome and the upgrade, EviLore. I'm more than happy to support a place that, from what I've seen over the past few days, seems to be genuinely fostering a space that doesn't bring out the torch and pitchforks for anyone who doesn't fit a specific mold and toe the line like Era is. We all learn and grow when we are able to voice our opinions and engage with those who have different ones than ours. It's a pity to see now that things have devolved into people being banned just for posting here.

I agree with you. I may butt heads with them on occasion, but they're some of the most kindest, caring, and generous people I've ever met. Hollow, empty-gestured back pats is nothing in comparison to that.
 

Ol'Scratch

Member
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It is seriously frustrating and disgusting that people people are too afraid to call out false information over there. THIS is the full warning. It has even been posted in the CDPR are evil thread. Yet people post cut snipped versions to spread their agenda
 
That guy is totally unhinged and should visit a mental instituation as soon as possible.
Meh. I don't if unhinged is the right way to paint that portrait. Maybe that is all that they've got at Era and where they really feel connected. You could say that's sad but it will either lead to a miserable future or somehow lead them to a better one. I will say this on their matter: they must have no hope or no shining light in their life; they are fighting a losing battle against despair and the more they persist, the more they are harming themselves and those around them. So yeah, unhinged isn't a fair statement on their situation because it's far worse than that. I wish them the best, they need it more than all of us.
 
It's difficult to know if they could ban me since I use a different email (in fact I link my discord here, not my email) and I use a different username. I frequented mostly on the PlayStation forum. I wanna come back when the site is really in shambles and I come back when it's a ghost town so I can chat with the remaining good users there.
 
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