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[StreetsofBeige]

The pay bump is from people who changed jobs, which as a few of us pointed out in this thread, is a result of a lot leaving the service industry and using this covid time to find a better job.

What are you not grasping by this point?

Not true. A view is people are going back to old jobs if they get pay bumps or incentives to come back too.

Doesn't really matter though.

As I stated many times, it's up to the boss to pay. It's their money. If they satsify min wage rules, it's their call. How can you feel so entitled to demand taking over payroll admin from the boss?

What you want is really government forcing high pay so businesses have to follow rules. So aiming your anger at cheap owners isn't even the right person to blame.

It's no different than people at home trying to pay as little as possible during income tax time, while claiming as many perks as possible to get a tax refund. Nobody purposely tries to pay more tax for the hell of it. A business owner is similar. Get by saving money.

Also as I stated before, you want more pay and good job, get some skills and get a better job. Most people don't even work at McJobs in the first place. No doubt the loudest group, but also not many compared to the greater pool of workers.

It's not hard to get better skills to get something better than $10/hr. A high school or college student needing PT money you cant blame. They are focusing on school. But for someone who's 40 years old and still flipping burgers, they've had 20 years to brush up skills, education and the resume. No excuse.

And for anyone taking advantage of covid payouts, sitting at home, and then supposedly getting a better job, then be appreciative you got a break off taxpayers backs. Shut your mouths and dont complain 5 years from now repeating the situation.

 

[YCoCg]

And for anyone taking advantage of covid payouts, sitting at home, and then supposedly getting a better job, then be appreciative you got a break off taxpayers backs. Shut your mouths and dont complain 5 years from now repeating the situation.

So now you're angry at the people who got better jobs? Dude what is up with you, it feels like you're being furious at people.

Remember this thread started off about shitty jobs struggling to entice staff back. No matter what reason is pointed out you seem angry at people for not going back to their old shit job. You've even dodge the question again.

For everything you've said about how a business is ran then it's also good to remember that every person has the right to say "nah I'm good, I'll go work somewhere that pays more".

 

[StreetsofBeige]

So now you're angry at the people who got better jobs? Dude what is up with you, it feels like you're being furious at people.

Remember this thread started off about shitty jobs struggling to entice staff back. No matter what reason is pointed out you seem angry at people for not going back to their old shit job. You've even dodge the question again.

For everything you've said about how a business is ran then it's also good to remember that every person has the right to say "nah I'm good, I'll go work somewhere that pays more".

Not angry at all. Just giving people life tips on work ethic. Don't be a leech.

When I go to McDonalds or order a pizza. Be happy youre employed with a job and make the food as I ordered. If you don't like making burgers or pizza, get another job.

It's not hard to get through life with a half decent job. You don't need to be a straight A student or a PhD.

 

[YCoCg]

When I go to McDonalds or order a pizza. Be happy youre employed with a job and make the food as I ordered. If you don't like making burgers or pizza, get another job.

And that's exactly what a lot of people did, leading to the current situation where these shit paying jobs can't get the staff in anymore.

 

[DeafTourette]

Or government should pay less handouts.

The second these covid perks dry up, all these people will suddenly be begging to get back to work.

Nobody said $2000/mth = living like a king

But there's no denying by anyone that getting $2000/mth from taxpayers by sitting home doing nothing isn't leeching off society as a grab bag. They were working before covid perks were given.

I don't know how it is in Canada, but here in the states you HAVE to be actively looking for a job while you're on unemployment to still receive it. If you don't, you get cut off. Too many restaurant jobs FORCE you to depend on tips. No other workplace does that. They pay so little per hour but skirt around that by tips ... And not everyone gives tips.

Lots of people are doing under the table gigs to make up what UI lacks while they're looking for something that pays better.

Minimum wage was implemented by FDR to be a living wage so that a man could support himself and his family alone (back then 25 cents an hour was decent pay)... And we've gone SO FAR backwards on that ... When the corporations rule, we get the short end of the stick and they get a full course meal.

 

[DeepBreath87]

And that's exactly what a lot of people did, leading to the current situation where these shit paying jobs can't get the staff in anymore.

Perhaps. The rest of the story is that the government has basically taken money out of the treasury to help people with covid relief and now we are pretending it’s cool for these people to leverage that relief money as an excuse not to get a job. And a bunch of people here are pretending leeching covid relief money as an excuse not to work is somehow noble because the people without the skills to do anything beyond unskilled, entry level work don’t get paid enough.

Like I said, primarily, the government is to blame for allowing bums to take money not to work. But that doesn’t mean the bums are anything but bums. Leveraging taxpayer/government debt funded checks meant for covid relief against employers isn’t some protest against low wages. It’s negligence on the part of the government and theft on the part of the bums.

 

[Pol Pot]

You jumped the shark with waitress sexual harassment. Then when you landed there was another shark so you did a triple backflip over that claiming 30 years in the industry and running highly successful restaurants.

Your an alt of one of the gaffers that threw a shitfit and suicided your main account or your a banned account back again.

Your giving off serious Chairman Tickles vibes.

Gorgeous edit. Truly.
Commies and alts. Still nothing to add to the discussion. Throw in a bit of back seat moderation.

Trifecta.

I originally came to GAF when the website was still part of the news site. Do you remember the original split? I do.

Once again. Kindly add something to the discussion or fuck off.


On topic. These people deserve living wages. Wherever that may be. If you disagree, in my mind you're just an asshole like streets of bougie-mediocrity and I'm done with you.

 

[nush]

It’s negligence on the part of the government and theft on the part of the bums.

Good thing for them once post covid and the feds track them down for that. Then they'll get free board and lodging for many years with a job making license plates for 25 cents an hour.

 

[nush]

Gorgeous edit. Truly.
Commies and alts. Still nothing to add to the discussion. Throw in a bit of back seat moderation.

Trifecta.

I originally came to GAF when the website was still part of the news site. Do you remember the original split? I do.

Once again. Kindly add something to the discussion or fuck off.


On topic. These people deserve living wages. Wherever that may be. If you disagree, in my mind you're just an asshole like streets of bougie-mediocrity and I'm done with you.

I edited at 4:03 local time, you replied at 4:07 local time. Actually I was on mobile and slipped up to the post button that's why in the SECONDS it took me to edit my post that what you quoted has a nonsensical "ED" on the end of it because you fucking speeded out a post in that timeframe. You tool.

You originally came to GAF? So I was right you are an ALT then. What did you do suicide with a "Fuck you EviLore "? Nope you I'm betting clocked a ban or suicided when politics was shut down is my running theory. Actually, can you help me parse this "I originally came to GAF when the website was still part of the news site"? What's a "News site" in this context? What year was originally, you talking about gamingage?

So as requested staying on topic, why don't I confirm that you worked in the restaurant business for 30 years. That's what you claim to be true right? So that would make you approach 50 or over? Managing that big successful Charelson restaurant. It's true right, you're not a troll or an alt? Right.

 

[Pol Pot]

You are truly an idiot.

Politics suicide? I imagine the mods could check my IP and see? Seems to me they'd already know with the way you're riding my cock.

It's ok, baby. You're an asshole. I get it. The only one trolling this topic is you.
Funny that, innit?

I'll edit as opposed to double posting...
Two decades. For the math and reading comprehension deficient among us. That's 20 years. Not thirty.

 

[nush]

Anyway, the point being that I worked in the industry for two decades, more recently and more involved than being a busboy thirty years ago.

Well, this is a statement that can be read not as intended. So, I'll give you a pass and rescale at you're almost 40 or over then.

 

[Pol Pot]

Well, this is a statement that can be read not as intended. So, I'll give you a pass and rescale at you're almost 40 or over then.

I get a pass because you don't know how many years are in a decade?

Go fuck yourself you god damned moron.
I'm proud of your thread derail, however, I will no longer be participating in it.

 

[nush]

I get a pass because you don't know how many years are in a decade?

Go fuck yourself you god damned moron.
I'm proud of your thread derail, however, I will no longer be participating in it.

Hurry up and run and see how you've just been owned in the sexualization topic. Told you I had receipts and I screencapped your shit before you made your profile private.

Spoiler

Bitch

 

[sunnysideup]

Minimum wage is stupid.

Collective bargaining and limited immigration is a much better solution.

It allows for some flexibility for start ups, results in higher wages for the majority and a stable society.

With cb larger companies will be punished by union prices, smaller companies can pay what ever they want, but there wont be anyone willing to work for peanuts.

 

[Blade2.0]

Not angry at all. Just giving people life tips on work ethic. Don't be a leech.

When I go to McDonalds or order a pizza. Be happy youre employed with a job and make the food as I ordered. If you don't like making burgers or pizza, get another job.

It's not hard to get through life with a half decent job. You don't need to be a straight A student or a PhD.

The bosses are the leeches.

 

[JayK47]

Even before the pandemic, there were a lot of "homeless" people everywhere right next to places begging for more workers. I really do not know why there are so many people not willing to work. I think maybe it could be that there are so many ways to get handouts these days that were not available previously, so now it is easier than ever to simply coast through life with no job if you are willing to lower your standards. And then during the pandemic, you had tons of free cash and rent forgiveness going on. So no reason to get a job at all. Once these programs end, most people will get a job again. Others may not. Most people would get their shit together if it meant starving to death as the alternative. But nobody is starving around here.

 

[QSD]

The bosses are the leeches.

This. God man I work in care and during the height of the pandemic the higher-ups were constantly badgering us from the safety of their homes about working extra shifts at other locations where the infections were out of control (largely due to negligence) and all I could think at a certain point was "why don't YOU go work there and get infected (and infect your whole family in the process)"
But ofcourse they never do, that's beneath them. Parasites.

Even before the pandemic, there were a lot of "homeless" people everywhere right next to places begging for more workers. I really do not know why there are so many people not willing to work. I think maybe it could be that there are so many ways to get handouts these days that were not available previously, so now it is easier than ever to simply coast through life with no job if you are willing to lower your standards. And then during the pandemic, you had tons of free cash and rent forgiveness going on. So no reason to get a job at all. Once these programs end, most people will get a job again. Others may not. Most people would get their shit together if it meant starving to death as the alternative. But nobody is starving around here.

Yeah your own dog will eat you if it meant starving as the alternative, so that might be a bit of a low bar. I work a lot with ex-homeless people and the idea you have about them coasting through life guilt-free, laughing at those dumb fucks who go to work everyday 9-5 is largely just a myth. There are some who just don't give a fuck, but most are keenly aware that they are some kind of burden and strive to alleviate the guilt they feel. You can't underestimate the mental health angle. One of my clients used to drive a forklift at one of the big flower auctions here in holland. He lost his mind (schizophrenia) and lived on the street for years. Now he happily does some gardening work twice a week. This is a dude who for example believes that, since circles are infinite, eating round things will make you immortal (yay pizza! I hear you think) but in his case he once ate only apples for almost a week before he became hypoglycemic and delirious. Good luck finding an actual job if you are prone to magic thinking like that, and hear voices in your head.

 

[Enjay]

Tbh there's too much overpopulation for going out to a restaurant to be enjoyable anywa, and that was years before corona.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

This. God man I work in care and during the height of the pandemic the higher-ups were constantly badgering us from the safety of their homes about working extra shifts at other locations where the infections were out of control (largely due to negligence) and all I could think at a certain point was "why don't YOU go work there and get infected (and infect your whole family in the process)"
But ofcourse they never do, that's beneath them. Parasites.


Yeah your own dog will eat you if it meant starving as the alternative, so that might be a bit of a low bar. I work a lot with ex-homeless people and the idea you have about them coasting through life guilt-free, laughing at those dumb fucks who go to work everyday 9-5 is largely just a myth. There are some who just don't give a fuck, but most are keenly aware that they are some kind of burden and strive to alleviate the guilt they feel. You can't underestimate the mental health angle. One of my clients used to drive a forklift at one of the big flower auctions here in holland. He lost his mind (schizophrenia) and lived on the street for years. Now he happily does some gardening work twice a week. This is a dude who for example believes that, since circles are infinite, eating round things will make you immortal (yay pizza! I hear you think) but in his case he once ate only apples for almost a week before he became hypoglycemic and delirious. Good luck finding an actual job if you are prone to magic thinking like that, and hear voices in your head.

See, that's already your problem. You don't understand jobs and roles.

A manager or CEO's job isn't to do the daily tasks unless it's a small business and they do a bit of everything. A manager's job is to get things done by organizing, facilitating and getting the most out of their team to do the job. If you're lucky, your boss can do that stuff and helps out when things are rough, but it's not a requirement.

Do you really think Bobby Kotick sits in front of a PC to work on Call of Duty maps if the game is running behind? Nope. He's high up and does the strategy part. The map maker dude is the guy whose job it is to make it.

Your example of homeless people being so mentally challenged they need help is one thing. I have no problem giving help to people like that, ot people who get a bed ridden disease or car accident leading to life changing mental or physical issues. A guy eating circular things thinking he becomes Thanos is one thing.

But the vast majority of McJobbers arent insane people. They can go get a job without milking the system. They were working before when the jobless rate was 3.5%. But get some free cash to buy some time and suddenly their old job isn't good enough for them.

 

[QSD]

See, that's already your problem. You don't understand jobs and roles.

A manager or CEO's job isn't to do the daily tasks unless it's a small business and they do a bit of everything. A manager's job is to get things done by organizing, facilitating and getting the most out of their team to do the job. If you're lucky, your boss can do that stuff and helps out when things are rough, but it's not a requirement.

I understand jobs and roles perfectly well, but in far too many cases I've found managers to be people whose primary motivation is just to lord it over other people without actually contributing much. In this case I'm perfectly free to say no, so just asking me to put myself in danger while he sits at home and twiddles his thumbs is a non starter. If he'd said, *location X is in trouble, and I'm leading a team of volunteers to get things under control* I would have been far more likely to say yes because here is someone who doesn't think he's above putting himself in the line of fire. But no, just sit at home and "try to get the most out of me". Parasitic behaviour.

Your example of homeless people being so mentally challenged they need help is one thing. I have no problem giving help to people like that, ot people who get a bed ridden disease or car accident leading to life changing mental or physical issues. A guy eating circular things thinking he becomes Thanos is one thing.

But the vast majority of McJobbers arent insane people. They can go get a job without milking the system. They were working before when the jobless rate was 3.5%. But get some free cash to buy some time and suddenly their old job isn't good enough for them.

Yeah like I said before, I have mixed feelings about this. I agree that everyone should strive to contribute something to society, and ass sitting is bad attitude. But the McDonalds thing became a meme for a reason. McDonalds is just a ultra depressing place to work. It completely erases your individuality and you are basically just hired to complete a pre-programmed protocol because they can't build robots cheap enough to do it yet. If I had no other options than to flip burgers at McDonalds all my life, I could easily see myself become depressed or even suicidal after a while.

 

[sunnysideup]

Even before the pandemic, there were a lot of "homeless" people everywhere right next to places begging for more workers. I really do not know why there are so many people not willing to work. I think maybe it could be that there are so many ways to get handouts these days that were not available previously, so now it is easier than ever to simply coast through life with no job if you are willing to lower your standards. And then during the pandemic, you had tons of free cash and rent forgiveness going on. So no reason to get a job at all. Once these programs end, most people will get a job again. Others may not. Most people would get their shit together if it meant starving to death as the alternative. But nobody is starving around here.

maybe they cannot?

Out of any population, there is certain percentage that is incapable of doing any type of labour.

These people have low iq, mental illness, drug related problems or usually combination of all.

In my view. you should just put them on the doll and neuter them.

 

[JayK47]

I hope people get back to work soon. Luckily I have not been to badly affected for going out to eat. I will say that I have never seen a worse shortage of classic car parts. Between COVID slowing down or stopping production, now people have stimulus and tax return money to spend and so much is on back order. So many parts warehouses are overwhelmed and understocked. You really need to make sure stuff is in stock before ordering anything.

 

[Pol Pot]

I hope people get back to work soon. Luckily I have not been to badly affected for going out to eat. I will say that I have never seen a worse shortage of classic car parts. Between COVID slowing down or stopping production, now people have stimulus and tax return money to spend and so much is on back order. So many parts warehouses are overwhelmed and understocked. You really need to make sure stuff is in stock before ordering anything.

What the fuck is this.

I'm thankful that you haven't been extremely inconvenienced outside of auto parts.

Sacrifice noted.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

What the fuck is this.

I'm thankful that you haven't been extremely inconvenienced outside of auto parts.

Sacrifice noted.

Car parts important for people who work.

 

[Pol Pot]

Classic car parts streets of bougie mediocrity? Yeah?

 

[Pol Pot]

Let me say, however, based on reactions in this thread alone, there is a significant number of members of this community that have empathy for these workers.

Bravo.

 

[DeafTourette]

People are homeless for a variety of reasons...

Painting them all, or most of them, as lazy is simple minded or bougie or elitist thinking.

I've been homeless and it isn't fun or easy or whatever. I know people who slept on the streets because they had no place to go. The shelters sometimes have rapists or child molesters or thieves or whatever else ... And how can you get a job when you're homeless? You often have no bank account and no address. Sometimes I don't think some of y'all even live in the real world. You don't criticize the country or the government and accept whatever lazy theory about "the other" as the truth without doing further research.

Some of these responses smacks of "welfare queens" type logic.

 

[nush]

StreetsofBeige JayK47

Pol Pot is concern trolling you, don't fall for it.

 

[DeepBreath87]

People are homeless for a variety of reasons...

Painting them all, or most of them, as lazy is simple minded or bougie or elitist thinking.

I've been homeless and it isn't fun or easy or whatever. I know people who slept on the streets because they had no place to go. The shelters sometimes have rapists or child molesters or thieves or whatever else ... And how can you get a job when you're homeless? You often have no bank account and no address. Sometimes I don't think some of y'all even live in the real world. You don't criticize the country or the government and accept whatever lazy theory about "the other" as the truth without doing further research.

Some of these responses smacks of "welfare queens" type logic.

The vast, vast majority of homeless people suffer from either mental disorders or substance abuse. Often both. They aren’t homeless because they’re lazy. They’re homeless because the need help they cannot provide for themselves. It would be more compassionate to institutionalize many of them, even against their will, than to allow them to congregate in squalor.

This discussion isn’t really about homeless people. Homeless people are in a different category. We are talking about fully capable adults who are choosing not to work in order to leverage enhanced, “covid relief” unemployment benefits against employers to get more money. Homeless people aren’t a part of that problem.

 

[BadBurger]

The vast, vast majority of homeless people suffer from either mental disorders or substance abuse.

You should study the issue more I think. Often times local economic factors combined with low wages and random circumstances trap people into homelessness, where they and/or their families end up living in motels or their cars. There are some documentaries on it, even following peoples' personal lives on it, and also scientific papers published in journals looking at the issue.

Personally, while in college I began volunteering for shelters and food kitchens and such, and the stories are varied. Rarely, in my experience and in what I mentioned above, was mental health a factor. Those are the people usually seen by the average person in their day-to-day lives. There is an unfortunate mass of homeless unseen who make it a point not to be seen because they're either ashamed or are too busy trying not to be homeless.

 

[NickFire]

And that's exactly what a lot of people did, leading to the current situation where these shit paying jobs can't get the staff in anymore.

Do you really believe that the majority of unfilled jobs stem from people getting new jobs that pay better?

Seriously?

Come on man!

 

[evolvaer]

Yeah. That works until the federal government turns off the money faucet after the summer. Then what, lazy, irresponsible guy who “deserves” more money who apparently can’t do anything besides “poverty level” work? People like that survive on the generosity of others. Maybe act a bit fucking appreciative and spare everyone the self righteous indignation about how you’re too good for low level work. If you were actually too good, you could go earn more doing something else instead of sitting on your ass at home collecting bum checks from Uncle Sam.

I love that in an economy with literally millions of unfilled jobs, the idea you could actually improve your life by getting one of them is considered “bootstrap mentality”. And then you’re upset when people call you lazy/irresponsible.

Millions of unfilled, with non living wages.

This is what happens when labor is stripped of any ability to bargain for itself like in any idealized system of capitalism. Welcome crony capitalism.

Heads I win, Tails you lose.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Millions of unfilled, with non living wages.

This is what happens when labor is stripped of any ability to bargain for itself like in any idealized system of capitalism. Welcome crony capitalism.

Heads I win, Tails you lose.

Depends on the jobs and company.

Mine is doing great. Pays great, annual pay hike of 3% and the usual 15%+ bonus.

And there's endless jobs like this. Its not like I'm the only one making decent money. If you got some skills, companies will open up the wallet instead of straddle you with a minimum wage offer where there's 100 other people willing to bite.

When I scour jobs and they post the salary range, aside from a handful of smaller companies trying to entice people with a snazzy job title and gimped money, the typical job I do pays well into 6-digits. No $12/hr offers. Same can be said for tons of people in different careers.

Sounds like the typical talented Google-ish kind of guy makes probably double what I make.

 

[YCoCg]

Do you really believe that the majority of unfilled jobs stem from people getting new jobs that pay better?

Seriously?

Come on man!

Do you seriously believe that EVERYONE is just being lazy?

Seriously?

Come on man!

I even posted an article about how the average wage has gone up with returning employment levels because of the job transfers over the past year, majority of them LEAVING the service industry.

 

[DeafTourette]

Do you seriously believe that EVERYONE is just being lazy?

Seriously?

Come on man!

I even posted an article about how the average wage has gone up with returning employment levels because of the job transfers over the past year, majority of them LEAVING the service industry.

The service industry has a strong lobby and they DON'T want to pay their workers more because it'd infringe on their million dollar payouts.

 

[Romulus]

A guy I know that owns 4 Dennys restaurants had to put his 17 and 20 year old children to work at his stores waiting tables because no one is looking for work

 

[MastaKiiLA]

This thread quickly became politics forum redux.

 

[Corgi1985]

Huh, the working class gets some leverage and all of a sudden capitalism becomes a problem.

 

[DeepBreath87]

Huh, the working class gets some leverage and all of a sudden capitalism becomes a problem.

I don’t think you know what capitalism is….

 

[YCoCg]

UGH, THE PEOPLE ARE JUST LAZY!

 

[NickFire]

Do you seriously believe that EVERYONE is just being lazy?

Seriously?

Come on man!

I even posted an article about how the average wage has gone up with returning employment levels because of the job transfers over the past year, majority of them LEAVING the service industry.

No, of course I don't. Undoubtedly there are people who have advanced their careers the past 14 months. But to suggest that is the root cause of unfilled jobs when people can make more money sitting home is

 

[YCoCg]

No, of course I don't. Undoubtedly there are people who have advanced their careers the past 14 months. But to suggest that is the root cause of unfilled jobs when people can make more money sitting home is

Literally just posted more evidence above you right there.

 

[Blade2.0]

Depends on the jobs and company.

Mine is doing great. Pays great, annual pay hike of 3% and the usual 15%+ bonus.

And there's endless jobs like this. Its not like I'm the only one making decent money. If you got some skills, companies will open up the wallet instead of straddle you with a minimum wage offer where there's 100 other people willing to bite.

When I scour jobs and they post the salary range, aside from a handful of smaller companies trying to entice people with a snazzy job title and gimped money, the typical job I do pays well into 6-digits. No $12/hr offers. Same can be said for tons of people in different careers.

Sounds like the typical talented Google-ish kind of guy makes probably double what I make.

There aren't endless jobs like this. Jobs are a finite resource.

 

[nush]

A guy I know that owns 4 Dennys restaurants had to put his 17 and 20 year old children to work at his stores waiting tables because no one is looking for work

Right, so this guy can afford to open and run 4 franchised outlets, presumably his kids were just sitting around at home not working becuse dad was making enough money for them to be able to do that. People still going to play the razor thin restaurant margins is why they can't pay a decent wage card?

Denny's Franchise Business Leader Salaries

Average salaries for Denny's Franchise Business Leader: $83,448. Denny's salary trends based on salaries posted anonymously by Denny's employees.

www.glassdoor.com

 

[StreetsofBeige]

There aren't endless jobs like this. Jobs are a finite resource.

And skills and effort are finite too. If someone wants a decent job brush up the skills.

The avg wage in US and Canada is pretty similar at about $55k/yr. That's $27/hr. For every dude making $9/hr, there's someone else making good money balancing it out.

The first google result I got looking for # of jobs per job level/type is this May 2020 report. Close enough. But there might be more recent reports.

May 2020 National Occupational Employment and Wage Estimates (bls.gov)


This was during the giant covid meltdown so many of the low level jobs are going to be reduced. Never the less, check out the section called this:

35-0000

Food Preparation and Serving Related Occupations

major

11,262,850

0.2%

80.970

$12.26

$13.30

$27,650

0.2

This is where all the McJobs are. Now compare that section to the rest of the webpage. TONS of jobs that all pay more. You don't even have to be a manager. And the whole PR about McJobs pay $7.75/hr is BS, because the avg wage is about $13/hr. So for every guy making $8/hr in MIssissippi there's other people making more than $13/hr to balance it out. And fi someone solely wants to focus on the fast food cook and coffee shopper role, it's closer to $12/hr.



The next section which often gets bucketed wth McJobs are cleaning/janitorial jobs. They pay more too. If someone lacks technical or academic skills, well, gun for a cleaner job. Probably less stress too as you dont have to cook fast or interact with customers.

37-0000

Building and Grounds Cleaning and Maintenance Occupations

major

4,090,370

0.3%

29.406

$14.39

$15.75

$32,760

0.2%

The overall All Jobs is 140,000,000 people. McJobs are a small number of them.

Occupation code	Occupation title (click on the occupation title to view its profile)	Level	Employment	Employment RSE	Employment per 1,000 jobs	Median hourly wage	Mean hourly wage	Annual mean wage	Mean wage RSE
00-0000	All Occupations	total	139,099,570	0.1%	1000.000	$20.17	$27.07	$56,310	0.1%

 

[ScythD]

This is a big issue around Houston, lots of businesses struggling to fill open roles:

Restaurant ready for grand opening, but there's a big problem: 'Jobs are there, but worker's aren't'

Mia's Table in Cypress has been ready to open since May 1, but the "coming soon" sign has not been able to come down.

www.khou.com

 

[Halo is Back]

People don't want to work shitty jobs for shit pay. The age of social media also created much more possibilities for people to make money.

 

[nush]

People don't want to work shitty jobs for shit pay. The age of social media also created much more possibilities for people to make money.

true, I used the example at the start of this topic of my friend who started lockdown camming and makes 3 times what her shitty job made.

 

[highrider]

What the fuck is this.

I'm thankful that you haven't been extremely inconvenienced outside of auto parts.

Sacrifice noted.

Some people rely on auto parts for their business ( collision repair, service, refinishing ) like me for example. Are auto parts insignificant because they aren’t N95 masks..? Do you I understand basic economics?

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Some people rely on auto parts for their business ( collision repair, service, refinishing ) like me for example. Are auto parts insignificant because they aren’t N95 masks..? Do you I understand basic economics?

Why would anyone who doesn't work even care about auto parts?

People who don't work and have bad jobs forever have zero sense of industry and work. They are in their own little bubble. They think the world revolves due to greedy CEOs and everything just magically works.

I've never even worked in the auto parts industry but it's super important. How are all the goods we ship (from the many companies I've worked at) get to warehouses and stores? A lot of stuff is from overseas. How is it going to get from docks? Trucks. And that includes Truck parts needed to run.

How are all the WORKING people going to get to work? I dont have access to 24th century Star Trek transporters.