Can you elaborate? Do you mean if you can mix and match NA/Japanese AC adapters?
Perhaps of some help:
https://krikzz.com/forum/index.php?topic=2114.0
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Retro AV Club Thread 2: Classic Gaming Done Right!
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Can you elaborate? Do you mean if you can mix and match NA/Japanese AC adapters?
Perhaps of some help:
https://krikzz.com/forum/index.php?topic=2114.0
March of the Crabs
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What would be the best upscaler for playing my NES/SNES/N64/PS2/GCN on a newer TV?
I have an old CRT I'm running the NES, SNES, N64 & PS2 through, but I fear it is on its last legs and I don't really have room for another CRT (or time to hunt one down).
I've always played my stuff on CRT so I'm completely oblivious to the various modern solutions.
I have an old CRT I'm running the NES, SNES, N64 & PS2 through, but I fear it is on its last legs and I don't really have room for another CRT (or time to hunt one down).
I've always played my stuff on CRT so I'm completely oblivious to the various modern solutions.
Would this be any help to you?
http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showt...ice-menu-Tips-Tricks-and-settings-suggestions
If not, try googling with the model and service mode
OSSC of the Framemeister, I guess. Those cheap upscalers are very hit and miss and I don't think anyone has managed to find one that is also cheap and produces good quality. OSSC and FM are premium for a reason.
Found that link too and did the whole service mode thing. I have the service mode manual with me too in PDF. I also have the 240p test suite for the patterns. I just don't get it. I mean how to properly calibrate the geometry of my CRT.
It's been a long time since I've posted about my own setup here.
I'm going to redo my entire gaming setup. Right now, I'm connecting/disconnecting my retro systems to my PVM as needed one at a time. However, I think I'm going to convert all of my retro systems to BNC then grab a BNC matrix switch to cycle between inputs/outputs as needed. That way I never have to disconnect anything ever again.
Everything including composite, component, SCART, and audio will go into it. And I will also output to my PVM, Framemeister, a permanent TATE monitor and eventually a 480p widescreen monitor as needed.... all without ever needing to touch a wire.
It's going to be expensive to buy all of those SCART to BNC adapters (and possibly the matrix switch itself), but I much rather have this than a SCART switch so that I never have to worry about switching things out for component ever again.
Yes, it's overkill. But fuck it. I'm doing it.
I'm going to redo my entire gaming setup. Right now, I'm connecting/disconnecting my retro systems to my PVM as needed one at a time. However, I think I'm going to convert all of my retro systems to BNC then grab a BNC matrix switch to cycle between inputs/outputs as needed. That way I never have to disconnect anything ever again.
Everything including composite, component, SCART, and audio will go into it. And I will also output to my PVM, Framemeister, a permanent TATE monitor and eventually a 480p widescreen monitor as needed.... all without ever needing to touch a wire.
It's going to be expensive to buy all of those SCART to BNC adapters (and possibly the matrix switch itself), but I much rather have this than a SCART switch so that I never have to worry about switching things out for component ever again.
Yes, it's overkill. But fuck it. I'm doing it.
Are you sure it's only when the resolution changes? I ask because my JVC 20 inch has a "feature" JVC calls "Black Level Expansion (BLE)" which depending on the average picture (brightness) level of the image it will dynamically brighten or darken the image. This is something that cannot be turned off via either the user or service menu. I've had to compromise on my Brightness level adjustment to maintain a semi-proper black level depending on how the circuitry is adjusting the brightness of a given image.
March of the Crabs
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FM is what I was looking at so it's nice to get some confirmation that it's pretty good. Thanks!
Save the original settings somewhere so you can go back if you horribly mess them up. Here's a diagram on what various options do (you might not have all the same ones depending on your CRT):
Try them out and see.
Kiddy Dong
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I've been doing my first proper playthrough of Mario 64 in over a decade, on the 20M4U of course. It's only S-Video on a stock N64, but damn does this game look good for its age, and certainly is a better way to play than the Vitrtual Console abominations. Having an AV setup like this back in the day probably would have been mindblowing.
Agreed. That game really shines on a CRT.
Triforce141
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I mean can I use the official Japanese Coregrafx AC adapter with the console, or will I need to buy something similar to the output voltage/amp of the plug because of some Japanese electrical standard, the message I got from the ebay seller confused me a bit?
linko9
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Okay. That's better. Is there a better pattern out there than the 240p tedt suite and the nokia one?
Anyway, I couldn't figure out how to fix this. It's not shown well using the grid pattern but it is very visible in the 240p test suite menu.
That's because those are the areas of vertical transition from light to dark. My PVM does that same thing. If there's anything to be done about it, it can't be fixed from the service menu. You'll notice that if you turn down the brightness, the effect lessens considerably. It doesn't really bother me that much, and makes power bombs looks really cool in Super Metroid
Virtual Console abominations?
You are obviously not talking about Wii VC release as it is bar none the best way to play Mario 64. Via component on a CRT or PVM.
Is it true that Wii's N64 VC is upressing the image to 480p?
PumpkinSpice
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What if I told you that a component cable for PS2 already exists?
Riesenfass
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I have a set for my Genesis and it looks so good now. PS2 has official component cables already so I'm not sure why you'd need them from hd retrovision. Am I missing something?
Yes. Uprendering, not upscaling. (aka 480p native if your set supports it).
I prefer it in 240p on OG hardware though.
There are some setting turned on that I didn't mess with, and I can't find the remote...
Yeah, forgot about that... PS1 please HD Retrovision!
I played Mario Party 3 on my N64 with my friends, and I played Mario party 2 on Wii since I don't own it on N64. My Wii is set on 480i btw.
They said that Mario Party 3 looked ugly and horrid and Mario Party 2 looked better.
Maybe because I was using component with Wii and comps on N64?
Kiddy Dong
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Yeah, the Wii VC isn't so bad, but it shares the same problems as the Wii U VC only to a lesser extent (namely input lag and the dark filter).
IIRC the emulation isn't as accurate on Wii VC either, and games with lots of 2D assets don't look too hot when scaled up.
Definitely the way to go if you don't have the OG hardware, however.
RadarScope1
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Oh? The TCL's? That's cool to hear. Yes, the TV makers need to take notice.
I have a Japanese Coregrafx and use the OEM AC adapter (I'm in NA) for what it's worth. I believe you should be fine.
Yeah, I use Scart on N64...it's great!
It depends on your tastes. I prefer the original look.
Seconded. Neither is necessarily ideal but I think the blurriness is innately tied to the look of a lot of the games. There is definitely variation amongst games though where some look better, some worse, etc. Your mileage may vary; it can't hurt to try it out and see for yourself.
Last question for today I swear, are these good?
Component AV Cable for Nintendo Wii to HDTV
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000OFSBL6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_oswzzbAG4ATKE
Component AV Cable for Nintendo Wii to HDTV
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000OFSBL6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_oswzzbAG4ATKE
sixteen-bit
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Lag Testing Marqs' CPS2 digital AV interface video by undamned of the consolized CPS2 project
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4h3o1Hf1HDg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4h3o1Hf1HDg
Noob question, so if I buy a Gamecube and use this SCART to Component adapter will this work on my TV.
Unfortunately my TV doesn't have a SCART slot. I'm from Australia if that makes a difference. If that doesn't work I'll just get a BC Wii I suppose.
Unfortunately my TV doesn't have a SCART slot. I'm from Australia if that makes a difference. If that doesn't work I'll just get a BC Wii I suppose.
Riesenfass
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I just ordered these a few days ago, they showed up today so I only briefly tested them but they seem fine:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003L14Y9I/?tag=neogaf0e-20
They're a bit cheaper than the ones you found, and have good reviews. They are an add on item though if that matters to you.
Hope this helps.
RadarScope1
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Don't the PS1 games output via component when playing on the PS2? So, those cables in fact do exist already, if you use a PS2.
nogoodnamesleft
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Hey
Yes it will work but you won't get 480p and 480i looks pretty bad on 1080p panels.
For GameCube on HDTV best options for quality are the framemeister and component cable$$$$
You won't get 480p on scart though even on framemeister. I think BC WII is your best and cheapest option!
PumpkinSpice
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They do and it's a pretty good option if you don't have an rgb setup but PS2's handling of PS1 games isn't perfect. Early units do a better job but do hardware emulation at the IC level, like the entire graphics part is handled by the PS2 GSU pretending to be the PS1's graphics chips. Then later units have more extensive changes, like a PPC chip emulating the PS1's main CPU + PS2's sound chip.
It didn't work. It's still here.
That's because those are the areas of vertical transition from light to dark. My PVM does that same thing. If there's anything to be done about it, it can't be fixed from the service menu. You'll notice that if you turn down the brightness, the effect lessens considerably. It doesn't really bother me that much, and makes power bombs looks really cool in Super Metroid
Oh shit you're right. Tried turning down the brightness and the effect did lessen a bit though it remained noticeable for me. It bothers me mostly with PS1 games. So this can't be remedied through the service menu huh? That sucks. I love this CRT TV. It's been with me for 10 years.
Thanks for the help! Will the Wii w/ component playing GC games look reasonable on HD TV's?
RadarScope1
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Interesting. I don't think I'll ever be discerning enough to notice those differences. I don't think I've played a PS1 game on a PS1 since about 2000.
They look better than using composite cables, that's for sure. Since Gamecube component cables are expensive, I went with a Wii instead and it looked far better than it with a composite cable. I do have it connected to a CRT TV.
nogoodnamesleft
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Depends on your standards honestly. Did you play the GameCube back in the day on a crt? Even with crappy composite cables? I personally think 480i on a crt looks via composite looks better than 480p via component on a large HDTV (ESPECIALLY on one with a shit scaler-like most do)
But it is the cheapest and most functional to play your GameCube games on your tv for sure. Some games look better than others. If you don't want to spend money on a scaler then definitely go wii+component.
I've never played a Gamecube. I'm not too much of an imagine quality snob, as long as it doesn't look like absolute dogshit I'll be ok. Just bit the bullet and got a wii and some component cables. I'm sure it'll be fine. Plus can always rip to Dolphin if it's too much of an issue.
nogoodnamesleft
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You will be fine
unless you're an OCD fuck like me or some others here you'll think it looks great. I do think some games look great too like mario Sunshine and wind waker. The colours really shine on component. The biggest issues mainly is aliasing.Hey all, I'm possibly in the process of acquiring a PVM-1343MD. I've hunted around for impressions and have seen only positive things which is great. I'm excited to get it however I'm a little confused as far as it's specs go. I see that it outputs 600 lines, I'm from the world of resolutions ending in i or p. My ultimate goal is just to play retro games up to ps2, can this PVM do that? Am I limited in any way with any console from NES to Saturn Dreamcast to PS2?
polyh3dron
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It'll play PS2 and DC games at 480i only. It won't do 480p and for that you would need a PVM-xxL5 or BVM-20F1U. But yeah, for 240p and 480i it'll be great.
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