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sixteen-bit

Member
IrishNinja said:
i totally get this, and god knows my everdrive makes my repros of MUSHA/centy sillier...but i'm still happy to have a GBA cart with the Mother 3 localization on it, feels pretty real to me
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JP Mother 3 retail + EZF4 feels real to me
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different strokes!
 
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Shadowman16

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I like repro's when they are marked as such, especially for stuff like Star Fox 2 (which I really need to play at some stage).

Its a pain in the ass for Game and Watch stuff though - everything from boxes to the polystyrene tray can be repro's so going after boxed, complete genuine handhelds are an ongoing nightmare. I'm halfway done with my collection, just got the expensive side to go now!
 
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theSlacker

Member
IrishNinja said:
i mean, i get the fancy ones for say Mana II with a manual/box/etc but yeah, most of the ones i bought, i did so on nintendoage for like $25 shipped. seeing people pay sometimes triple that boggles my mind
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Is there places that still do high quality boxes and manuals?

Shadowman16 said:
I like repro's when they are marked as such, especially for stuff like Star Fox 2 (which I really need to play at some stage).

Its a pain in the ass for Game and Watch stuff though - everything from boxes to the polystyrene tray can be repro's so going after boxed, complete genuine handhelds are an ongoing nightmare. I'm halfway done with my collection, just got the expensive side to go now!
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Think this has been talked about before, but I feel that just by existing a repro is marked as a repro. It's just a bootleg if you are making and selling games that area already available in a region.
 
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Khaz

Member
Shaneus said:
I would imagine the manufacturing of them these days could be handled fairly easily by 3D printers, no? I don't know how much printers themselves vary in degrees of quality, but I'm sure there are some which could come close to the original injection-molded carts.
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According to what I read on smspower.org (they are trying to make new cartridges for homebrew), 3D printing is way too expensive: it needs too much material, the plastic filaments are expensive, and the tolerance margins are not good enough to make both sides of a shell fit nicely. Plus it's apparently difficult to make pretty round corners.

theSlacker said:
Think this has been talked about before, but I feel that just by existing a repro is marked as a repro. It's just a bootleg if you are making and selling games that area already available in a region.
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I consider the Repro makers the same way as how we have various publishers being able to use texts fallen into public domain. Some do fancy books with hard covers, illustrations and commentaries, others do small paperback with cheap paper that you can read on your commute without worrying about the object. They also have different prices, depending of what you are expecting in your edition.

Save for the important distinction that video games are not public domain yet, their original publisher will never reprint them, ever. I think it's only fair that other publishers take their chance at publishing the original game with new fancy art or mimicking the original release. The only scummy part of that practice is that of property of said art. It's not public domain yet, yet repro makers don't seek approval from the author nor give them a slice of their earning. But they don't see a dime of the money we spend on second-hand market either.
 
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televator

Member
I lIke repros, but I feel like an Everdrive removes my need for them. I don't mind having info available for people interested in them.
 
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RadarScope1

Member
I'm interested in buying repros of crazy rare games, translations or unreleased stuff but I hate that some are so expensive. I'm not paying $125 for a fake Nintendo World Championship, I don't care if the real thing does cost $18k. It's stupid.
 
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jonno394

Member
Bought an AGS-101 GBA SP and a Wine Red DSi XL so now I have access to all nintendo handheld titles pre-3DS. Can't wait to dive in to these line ups that I pretty much haven't sampled.
 
Danny Dudekisser

Danny Dudekisser

I paid good money for this Dynex!
lol, someone brought a PS2 into the office along with a pile of garbage-ass games, and people are all like "oh cool, a retro collection," and I'm like

no.
 
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televator

Member
sixteen-bit said:
GBA ED can't come soon enough.

Patching is such a PITA
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Didn't Krikzz say he didn't want to do it? My understanding is that it would be very difficult to design and manufacture something so small. Personally, I think he doesn't need to stick to the GBA cart size... I wouldn't mind if the cart was twice the length.
 
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Ivan Amiibo

Banned
it's a 15 year old console. It is retro to everyone except a niche who come up with their own rules about what's retro and what isn't.

now i have this argument going in two threads at once, but hopefully people in this thread won't immediately resort to ad hominem and telling me i'm 12
 
Danny Dudekisser

Danny Dudekisser

I paid good money for this Dynex!
fantastic_planet said:
it's a 15 year old console. It is retro to everyone except a niche who come up with their own rules about what's retro and what isn't.

now i have this argument going in two threads at once, but hopefully people in this thread won't immediately resort to ad hominem and telling me i'm 12
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It's less whether or not PS2 is a retro console and more about whether a collection consisting of a bunch of Guitar Hero games, Jeopardy, Marvel Ultimate Alliance, and Jet Moto 3 for the PS1 is a good collection.

Which... it's not.
 
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Ivan Amiibo

Banned
yeah ps2 "collections" are usually scary things. Multiple years of various sports games and a random disc only Cabela's. If you're lucky, god of war 1.
 
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Peagles

Member
Chacranajxy said:
It's less whether or not PS2 is a retro console and more about whether a collection consisting of a bunch of Guitar Hero games, Jeopardy, Marvel Ultimate Alliance, and Jet Moto 3 for the PS1 is a good collection.

Which... it's not.
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Agreed. For me it's not an issue of age, it's the rubbish games. Those are the people who see listings online for that "super rare" "omg retro cool" "collection" for $200 and actually buy it, lol.
 
IrishNinja

IrishNinja

Member
Khaz said:
Hey I liked Marvel Ultimate Alliance :(
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my first PS3 pickup, even before resistance - as a marvel fanboy, i adored it, even if the engine was just X-Men Legends 3.

still want part 2 despite it being rushed shit because my boy Iron Fist never gets any play, but im still salty i missed that carnage DLC. game's high on my list for "shit to get when GS puts 360 stuff at 75% off in a year or two" cause many stores out here still got it, but for way too much
 
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Teknoman

Member
Honest question. What was even the point of making games for the ZX Spectrum. Every comparison video I see, I just...I dunno man. Seems the definition of pointless.
 
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Shadowman16

Member
Teknoman said:
Honest question. What was even the point of making games for the ZX Spectrum. Every comparison video I see, I just...I dunno man. Seems the definition of pointless.
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For those people like me who owned a ZX Spectrum back in the day! Depends on the game your talking about but I enjoyed plenty of great games for it back in the day (Ultimate's isometric games, Batman, various Dizzy games, Strider to name but a few). I do own Street Fighter 2 for the Spectrum and I've always wanted to see how bad that is, I've "played" Final Fight and really that game is unplayable, that's a prime example of a game that should never have been ported.
 
baphomet

baphomet

Member
braves01 said:
Has anyone used Coin-Op Express? I've been thinking about buying CPS2 boards, but noticed they were mentioned in a neo geo thread...
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Well, since were on the topic of flash carts, Darksoft put up the ordering for his cps2 flash cart. Its like $300 and won't start shipping for another month or so, but goddamn if I can't wait for it to come in.
 
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Khaz

Member
IrishNinja said:
game's high on my list for "shit to get when GS puts 360 stuff at 75% off in a year or two" cause many stores out here still got it, but for way too much
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Haha yes, when the 360 and PS3 enter that phase, it will be a festival. Better grab them all before they reach stupid "retro" level.
 
IrishNinja

IrishNinja

Member
baphomet said:
Well, since were on the topic of flash carts, Darksoft put up the ordering for his cps2 flash cart. Its like $300 and won't start shipping for another month or so, but goddamn if I can't wait for it to come in.
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damn, this sounds awesome!

Brashnir said:
It's good. Put Moon Knight on your team.
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listen to this man! moony's my boy
cap already half breaks shit by making his shield like another party member once it's leveled, but yeah, this
 
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Khaz

Member
baphomet said:
Well, since were on the topic of flash carts, Darksoft put up the ordering for his cps2 flash cart. Its like $300 and won't start shipping for another month or so, but goddamn if I can't wait for it to come in.
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Now I need a Cps2 board. This hobby will kill me.

[edit] Is there a homebrew scene for the Cps2?
 
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Teknoman

Member
Shadowman16 said:
For those people like me who owned a ZX Spectrum back in the day! Depends on the game your talking about but I enjoyed plenty of great games for it back in the day (Ultimate's isometric games, Batman, various Dizzy games, Strider to name but a few). I do own Street Fighter 2 for the Spectrum and I've always wanted to see how bad that is, I've "played" Final Fight and really that game is unplayable, that's a prime example of a game that should never have been ported.
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Maybe I just need to look into it more. I don't really play anything Atari era and back, but the tech always interested me. Maybe its just games they tried to port like Outrun and such.
 
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braves01

Banned
baphomet said:
Well, since were on the topic of flash carts, Darksoft put up the ordering for his cps2 flash cart. Its like $300 and won't start shipping for another month or so, but goddamn if I can't wait for it to come in.
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I hadn't heard of this before, but looked into it and it seems really awesome. I'm like a level 0 cps2 collector with no technical know-how, though, so it still seems a bit intimidating. And even though it's gotta be the cheapest way to play all this stuff, I still don't even have boards to attach it to and a cab or supergun to use it with. I'm trying to get one of the ud-cps2 superguns (which sound amazing for someone like me), but I think it'll be a while before he makes any more if at all. If anyone knows someone who can do battery swaps or ideally keystone mods, I'd be glad to hear it too in case I don't go the phoenix edition route for boards.
 
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Shadowman16

Member
Teknoman said:
Maybe I just need to look into it more. I don't really play anything Atari era and back, but the tech always interested me. Maybe its just games they tried to port like Outrun and such.
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Owning one at the time probably helped me appreciate the computer more, as it was neat to see just how they managed to port arcade games at the time as the Spectrum did have its quirks (colour clash being somewhat terrible, but nostalgic all the same).
Strider for example was the last Spectrum game I played, its missing the last couple of stages and boss fights but it looked good (for the system) and played pretty well. Its not a touch on the arcade or Mega Drive version but for the time it was the best I had!
 
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braves01

Banned
baphomet said:
Well, since were on the topic of flash carts, Darksoft put up the ordering for his cps2 flash cart. Its like $300 and won't start shipping for another month or so, but goddamn if I can't wait for it to come in.
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Do you have more info on this? Who, What, Why, Where to order and the like? My interest is piqued but I'd like to learn more.
 
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Khaz

Member
So, I know of
http://www.ocdreproductions.com/ , making NES, SNES (US) ,GBA and Megadrive reproductions, with fancy labels and colourful shells.
http://www.retrousb.com/ , editing NES homebrew and making reproductions of stupidly expensive NES and SNES (JP/EU shell) Nintendo World Championship games, in transparent modern shells.
https://pceworks.wordpress.com/ Fancy reproductions of PC-Engine CD games
http://www.nesreproductions.com/ is specialising in putting translations into your original NES/Famicom games. A donor cart needs to be provided for any reproduction order.

What else?
 
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Khaz

Member
At least he doesn't fall like a stone when he falls from a platform. This always bugged me in every traditional Castlevanias.
 
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ZealousD

Makes world leading predictions like "The sun will rise tomorrow"
Khaz said:
So, I know of
http://www.ocdreproductions.com/ , making NES, SNES (US) ,GBA and Megadrive reproductions, with fancy labels and colourful shells.
http://www.retrousb.com/ , editing NES homebrew and making reproductions of stupidly expensive NES and SNES (JP/EU shell) Nintendo World Championship games, in transparent modern shells.
https://pceworks.wordpress.com/ Fancy reproductions of PC-Engine CD games
http://www.nesreproductions.com/ is specialising in putting translations into your original NES/Famicom games. A donor cart needs to be provided for any reproduction order.

What else?
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http://www.gamereproductions.com/

I generally prefer OCD if you want a repro storefront but they've got a better selection of Genesis repros here.
 
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