clarky
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New Switch next year. Don't buy that nonsense that Nintendo isn't competing against Sony. We all have limited screen time and $.
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Right now, the PS5 Pro is the best selling console on Amazon
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LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Sony Corp's PS5 is a beast
Sony corp ticker symbol is SNE.
What a fabulous and luscious console. Absolutely decadent.
The mad lads did it. THEY ACTUALLY DID IT.
THE PS5 PRO TOWERS ABOVE THE XBOX'S DRY SECONDS.
ITS UNBELIEVABLY UNBELIEVABLE
Sony corp ticker symbol is SNE.
What a fabulous and luscious console. Absolutely decadent.
The mad lads did it. THEY ACTUALLY DID IT.
THE PS5 PRO TOWERS ABOVE THE XBOX'S DRY SECONDS.
ITS UNBELIEVABLY UNBELIEVABLE
clarky
Gold Member
For reference what was the first month or day of PS4 pro sales on amazon?
over 10k at Amazon US in a single day.
For reference a full month of PS5 sales on Amazon can be close to 20k for all SKUs combined.
That's a better comparison, not 4 year old console sales at the back of summer.
DJ12
Member
Sarcasm aside. I think you know what I meant.
I don't have this info but a comparison with PS4 Pro preorders on Amazon would be interesting indeed although the market has changed, I don't think PlayStation Direct existed back then for example? Also now everyone is doing online business while a few years ago you could only trust Amazon essentially.
But what does 4 years old console even mean?
PS5 is dominating the market, it's having super healthy sales even in slow months so it's not like the comparison is being done with Xbox or another product not selling.
These early preorder figures point at least to initial good PS5 Pro sales that will boost the holiday season numbers.
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DJ12
Member
I think you and fellow like minded dramatists forget that it's not Sony that had to subsidise there console to the tune off $200 per unit.
clarky
Gold Member
By 4 year old console I mean just that, its a 4 year old console at the tail end of summer. Comparing those numbers to a newly released console is not a good comparison.
On the subject of launch window & life time sales this report sounds about right to me:
PS5 Pro: Sony pulls its ‘Pro’ strategy lever to engage PlayStation enthusiasts
Sony has confirmed the long-rumoured PlayStation 5 Pro will launch globally on November 7th at a price point of $699 in the US, €799 across Europe, £699.99 in the UK and ¥119,980 in Japan.
www.ampereanalysis.com
"Expected sales and impact on market
Ampere forecasts that around 1.3 million PS5 Pro consoles will be bought by consumers in the 2024 launch window. This is compared to 1.7m PS4 Pros that were sold at launch in 2016. We expect the price point to soften demand with some consumers, but for PlayStation enthusiasts the pricing is less of a consideration.
According to Ampere data, over its life, the PS4 Pro sold-through 14.5m units, around 12% of total PS4 sales. We’re expecting a similar dynamic for the PS5 Pro, with the expectation that it will sell-through around 13m units by 2029."
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over 10k at Amazon US in a single day.
For reference a full month of PS5 sales on Amazon can be close to 20k for all SKUs combined.
Comparing sales rate of a new console to that of a 4 year old console?
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Comparing sales rate of a new console to that of a 4 year old console?
These x shills gotta push the narrative anyway they can.
Sorry. You missed my point.
Johnny Concrete
Member
Sigh.
Prepare for a $999 PlayStation 6…
Prepare for a $999 PlayStation 6…
Comparing sales rate of a new console to that of a 4 year old console?
Yes because it gives us a data point which we previously didn't have at all in the meantime we have further data??
And this data point is that initial preorders are good and will meaningfully boost overall PS5 sales this holiday season?
And the 4 years console is the market leader that is having the best sales you can get for a console atm.
clarky
Gold Member
Bring it.
I'm sick of consoles that are underpowered and out of date at launch.
SweetTooth
Gold Member
People understands VALUE!
Both PS5/PS5Pro provide better value per dollar for gaming
Both PS5/PS5Pro provide better value per dollar for gaming
DJ12
Member
So your point isn't that Sony will charge whatever they want without competiton?
Then what is you point
Kokoloko85
Member
It gonna sell.
I dont think it will be do PS4 Pro numbers, But I think PS5 Pro will probably sell more than Xbox Series does going forward. 5-10 million tops?
I dont think it will be do PS4 Pro numbers, But I think PS5 Pro will probably sell more than Xbox Series does going forward. 5-10 million tops?
Johnny Concrete
Member
Oh they’ll still be underpowered, just overpriced.
DOA means it's dead from the start. Not number 1 in the charts. You're really trying to twist the definition of Dead On Arrival?
Cakeboxer
Member
You know exactly what the people meant with doa. They meant "not doing great", "doing worse than PS4 Pro" and so on. Doa is just an exaggeration like if i would say your Sony fanboy level is over 9000.
ReBurn
Gold Member
clarky
Gold Member
We have the definition of DOA: Concord.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
It does not give us any indication really. It's going to sell hundreds of thousands on launch month. Maybe even a few million worldwide but that gives us no indication if the sales have legs.
Even if it cost 1200 dollars there would be hundreds of thousands of brand loyalists that would buy it. It means nothing in the long run.
RetroGamingUK
Member
How were PS4 Pro sales as a percentage of overall PS4 sales each year after release?
clarky
Gold Member
We dont have that information, only that it was around 12% of total PS4 sales overall.
Id guess it was heavily front loaded to the first couple of years
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Punished Miku
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"Didnt plan"
Guy has a PC master race avatar and is talking about fanboys because I understand the definition of DOA
It gives an indication of initial sales, that is all.
It's the first factual data point we have.
But yeah let's see if now that it is clearly not doa like people claimed during the reveal, maybe it will bomb later, hopefully
kazuyamishima
Member
Amazon represents about 10% or so of the total PS5 monthly sales.
The Pro is the #1 best selling console at GameStop atm, and I think that a lot of people will use GS to trade their existing PS5 towards the Pro.
It will be interesting to see the numbers for the quarter considering that there will be the 30th anniversary edition consoles too.
All in all, I think a lot of people are underestimating potential sales and I think are playing the long game, especially in 2025 and 2026
The Pro is the #1 best selling console at GameStop atm, and I think that a lot of people will use GS to trade their existing PS5 towards the Pro.
It will be interesting to see the numbers for the quarter considering that there will be the 30th anniversary edition consoles too.
All in all, I think a lot of people are underestimating potential sales and I think are playing the long game, especially in 2025 and 2026
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MisterXDTV
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Comparing sales rate of a new console to that of a 4 year old console?
It's not like if you compare it to the 4-year old base PS5 numbers get better for Xbox
LOL
It's getting killed even without the PS5 Pro ever existing
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Physiognomonics
Member
Many people didn't know they could pre-order with direct. Most were waiting for Amazon pre-orders. It's going to be sell out soon.
RetroGamingUK
Member
Comparing sales rate of a new console to that of a 4 year old console?
Xbox series is in its 4th year, sales should be peaking now before slowly declining.
Instead they peaked 2 years ago and have fallen off a cliff.
ShadowkillXNA
Member
So do neogaf warriors.
Do you have any mirrors handy?
deriks
4-Time GIF/Meme God
It bugs me that Fortnite and Roblox gift cards are always top 10, and even more than one card. It always reminds me the Kenshi review of Ssethtzeentach, when he says that the games puts you in a technological dark age, when a it happens a "unknown disaster", and shows a brief picture of PUBG, which we're seeing happening before our eyes
I'm staring at a box of a pc case I want to build atm. Know it's going to take a few hours.
However right next to it, is my ps5.
If I sold that instead, bought a pro I would not have to deal with building a pc and it would run just as good if not better as my pc.
PS5 pro might be expensive, but it also feels like it's hitting a performance mark, that I'd be happy with for years to come. It's like knowing you'll get your money's worth with little effort.
Also I cannot help but wonder the impact it'll have on PSVR2
However right next to it, is my ps5.
If I sold that instead, bought a pro I would not have to deal with building a pc and it would run just as good if not better as my pc.
PS5 pro might be expensive, but it also feels like it's hitting a performance mark, that I'd be happy with for years to come. It's like knowing you'll get your money's worth with little effort.
Also I cannot help but wonder the impact it'll have on PSVR2
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ShadowkillXNA
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Congratulations, you got the point, that the xbox is so unpopular, an optional console priced hundreds of dollars more is outselling it.
In addition to being outsold by the playstation portal, which costs less.
Funny how you didn't want to mention that one isn't it?
saintjules
Gold Member
Cakeboxer
Member
You may know definitions, but you're also intentionally acting stupid. I bet if you check my history i also called it doa in some thread. But i also said it won't sell more than 10 million which means i think it can sell 9.999.999 times and that's all but doa by definition. I may be a huge pc fan, but at least i'm not a specifitc company's boot licker. I buy whatever parts from whatever company i want and don't celebrate anything pc as the second coming of christ and i don't auto hate other pc owner's setups.Guy has a PC master race avatar and is talking about fanboys because I understand the definition of DOA
LMAO, why would i mention the Portal? Xbox is so dead, at this point, anything is outselling it.
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I think it's you who's intentionally acting dumb. You tried to twist the definition of DOA instead of admitting it was hyperbole or exaggeration.
"Doa doesn't mean it sells 0. New hardware from popular manufactorers always sells at the start."
Where this is not the case. There are products which are actually dead on arrival, as in they dont make the charts at all, not reach number 1.
I'm not surprised but no thanks.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Comparing sales rate of a new console to that of a 4 year old console?
When Switch 2 outsells the PS5 pro, you think we'll get topics like this ?
Perfect, I want peasants out of my hobby.
Cakeboxer
Member
Are you fucking kidding me? I literally said that the people used it as an exaggeration. Nobody in their reight mind would think i doesn't sell at all. We will have to wait and see how good it does lifetime, but like i said it got outsold by a 40 Euro 1,5 years old Final Fantasy game on Amazon France. So we are most likely no talking about millions on Amazon, more like thousands. I'll stick to what i said. It won't sell more than 10 millions lifetime.
Vick
Gold Member
You'd have one ready within microseconds, so yeah.When Switch 2 outsells the PS5 pro, you think we'll get topics like this ?
RetroGamingUK
Member
When Switch 2 outsells the PS5 pro, you think we'll get topics like this ?
Maybe, but will we be shocked?
Switch has been a great success and no one sees Switch 2 being any different.
The discussion is as much about the collapse of Xbox console sales as anything.
Yes, after I mentioned you're twisting the definition of it.
Deerock71
Member
pass the controller bro
Thought you'd never ask bro. Only a Pro can play with the PS Pro Dualsense with these hands.
