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Rob Ford: Still smoking crack. On video. Taking leave of absence.
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Well I still haven't seen it yetHey guys, remember when back in May when this first broke and a bunch of people were saying how the mayor probably has the police in his pocket and how if they found the video they'd make sure it never saw the light of day?
Good times.
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Kuro Madoushi
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I hope the hockey celeb is Glenn axe to grind Healy!
Remember during the election when that guy released a taped conversation with Rob Ford wherein he asked him for drugs and Ford said he'd see what he could do?
http://www.torontolife.com/informer...in-on-the-street-for-one-of-his-constituents/
http://www.torontolife.com/informer...in-on-the-street-for-one-of-his-constituents/
Who? I never saw anyone crazy enough to claim this.Hey guys, remember when back in May when this first broke and a bunch of people were saying how the mayor probably has the police in his pocket and how if they found the video they'd make sure it never saw the light of day?
Good times.
Hey guys, remember when back in May when this first broke and a bunch of people were saying how the mayor probably has the police in his pocket and how if they found the video they'd make sure it never saw the light of day?
Good times.
We also have a bunch of people who say the Police are out to get Ford. Crazy knows no logic.
LiveFromKyoto
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Hey guys, remember when back in May when this first broke and a bunch of people were saying how the mayor probably has the police in his pocket and how if they found the video they'd make sure it never saw the light of day?
Good times.
Psh. Only because the commish saw which way the political wind was blowing and knew this was his chance to make a big splash, run for office.
I've seen The Wire, mang.
Nice job, guys.
He'll be re-elected before the video is shown in court.
bleachrude
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You know what makes me scared?
What will happen to mississauga when McCallion leaves...sure, she has a little kickback trial going on now, but given the shenanigans in other cities (Vaughn, Ottawa, Toronto) I am honestly scared shitless what will happen to this city...
What will happen to mississauga when McCallion leaves...sure, she has a little kickback trial going on now, but given the shenanigans in other cities (Vaughn, Ottawa, Toronto) I am honestly scared shitless what will happen to this city...
You Are Viewtiful
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The press should ambush Hudak. He let Ford campaign with him and stand beside him when he clearly knew that guy was on crack and other criminal activity. Same for Flaherty.
bleachrude
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And that's the saddest thing about it.
Toronto is the 4th or 5th most populous city in North America. The city should NOT be the butt of jokes for the entire damn continent. It's one thing for a small city like London to have political shenanigans but nobody outside of London itself is really going to point and laugh. When even people as far south as Texas are tweeting and laughing at you, your city has an image problem.
The worst is the Ford suoporters calling in to talk shows saying how they'll still vote for him. "He's done a great job, saving money, who cares about his personal life?"
speculawyer
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OH SHIT
He is smoking crack with the Ikea monkey?
LiveFromKyoto
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I love how they act like him having organized crime figures in positions of power is no biggie.
Zombie James
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Again with the robocalls. He's just digging his own grave at this point.
Let me see if I've got this straight.
One of his first responses the mayor has to all of these allegations is FUCKING ROBOCALLS?
Again with the robocalls. He's just digging his own grave at this point.
This is unbelievable......
Oh my god
Again with the robocalls. He's just digging his own grave at this point.
Again with the robocalls. He's just digging his own grave at this point.
This is amazing. What a response.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=schadenforde
Kuro Madoushi
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Subways and we voted this joker in the first place.Listening to bill carol on am 640 driving home made me come to the sad realization that their are a lot of incredibly stupid people living in this city
We also had Mel Lastman....
Hey guys, remember when back in May when this first broke and a bunch of people were saying how the mayor probably has the police in his pocket and how if they found the video they'd make sure it never saw the light of day?
Good times.
Well, the cops did see Ford receive parcels from Lisi dozens of times, and not once did they pull him over and search his car, despite having complete legal authority to do so... (resulting in the police having zero actual evidence to lay any sort of charges against him despite months of surveillance.)
Either the media blew the case open before it was ready, or the cops were treating the mayor with kid gloves.
Sho_Nuff82
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I don't understand, don't corrupt politicians only meet face to face with mob kingpins in the movies? Why the fuck is Ford directly exchanging words, handshakes, money, and drugs with these kind of people in broad daylight? Does he just not give a shit?
Spring-Loaded
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Just going of the little I know about him, this seems to be the answer.
I'm sorry, what? Complete authority to detain the mayor and search his vehicle....based on what?
A) We still don't even know the extent of the investigation. Your judgment is ridiculously premature.
And B) I'm pretty sure I have a better grasp of police powers to search than you do, and I'm saying that there's no grounds for a detention and vehicle search based on the scenarios you describe above.
ChainedMaster
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I don't understand this thread. No, it's not illegal to use drugs, it's not illegal to be an addict. It's illegal to be in possession of them. Maybe Canada has a shitier burden of proof, but in the US, in order to get a possession conviction, a video and circumstantial evidence is not enough. You need the substance they were in possession of and you need to chemically test it for illegal drugs. Just because something may look like cocaine or crack is not enough to be charged with anything. I'm not saying they don't have proof, but just saying a video and some survaillance isn't enough to be convicted of anything. They probably do have more, otherwise they wouldn't have announced all of this. Either way, I find it interesting that people care more about his crack usage than his drunk driving.
I don't know if we know what the timing is on that event. The surveillance team may not have been able to follow Ford when he left that site in order to be in a position to retrieve the bottles, and when they found the bottles, Ford might have already been lost to the surveillance team. There are several possible variables there.
But in broad strokes, yes, they probably would have had grounds for an impaired arrest that day, and that is the one thing that I find somewhat concerning.
But that is an issue that has come up before, when police are conducting major investigations and see possible drinking and driving activity. There is obviously a serious public safety concern with that activity, but if you pull the trigger and so the impaired arrest, you may blow the larger investigation.
Cops were in a real corner. Because the Mayor is involved, any action or inaction is viewed as either pro, or anti Ford. You have people on the radio saying the cops are setting Ford up, and people saying they're giving him preferential treatment.
My big problem is that the mayor is associating with criminals and drug dealers. He wrote Lisi a recommendation, he's hired Don Bosco guys into his office. Did he do that because they have a video on him that can harm his career? He pushed for private garbage. Did he do that because someone has dirt on him? Who knows. The mayor seems to have a lot of people that are holding the skeletons in his closet.
I worked for a financial institution once, and they pulled my credit rating, because people with unmanageable debts can't handle money. There are all sorts of situations in which having skeletons means your ability to perform in your job is compromised.
I don't want a mayor whose stings are being held by drug dealers.
My big problem is that the mayor is associating with criminals and drug dealers. He wrote Lisi a recommendation, he's hired Don Bosco guys into his office. Did he do that because they have a video on him that can harm his career? He pushed for private garbage. Did he do that because someone has dirt on him? Who knows. The mayor seems to have a lot of people that are holding the skeletons in his closet.
I worked for a financial institution once, and they pulled my credit rating, because people with unmanageable debts can't handle money. There are all sorts of situations in which having skeletons means your ability to perform in your job is compromised.
I don't want a mayor whose stings are being held by drug dealers.
OpinionatedCyborg
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First of all, he doesn't do it in broad daylight. Second of all,
Sho_Nuff82
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He's chilling with the dude at a Blue Jay's game...
Not sure if you're really asking, but yes, the standard is the same in Canada.
But either way, you don't throw this sort of resources into an investigation chasing a straight possession charge.
OpinionatedCyborg
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It's not like they're sitting next to each other and sharing hotdogs
Without knowing the full story, I think that TPS has actually handled this fairly well. Blair has conducted himself fairly and with integrity, not being pushed by the media, but not remotely covering for Ford either.
And there sure as hell haven't been any real leaks about the investigation as it has been going on. They kept this pretty well sealed as best they could.
Agreed. The video itself is secondary. What has been important these past six months has been all the rest that it has revealed about Ford and those he associates with.
You Are Viewtiful
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Again with the robocalls. He's just digging his own grave at this point.
He knows people are stupid. He still has supporters. I mean, that says it all right there.
Someone please deamalgamate Toronto and put an end to this failed experiment.
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