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Rogue One Reviews & Impressions (Spoiler Tags Required)

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Brandon F

Well congratulations! You got yourself caught!
Just got out of a pre-release screening myself.

I know everyone is hyped beyond belief, and I really don't wish to dial down any enthusiasm, but I found the film extremely clunky.

That said, I'll shift to the Spoiler thread for full thoughts so as not start a debate here, but the final 10 minutes or so were marvelous and easily the best sequence in the entire film. Finished on a high note, but I was kind of down on the movie through most of it sadly.

Wurst said:
Just watched it. Meh. Didnt feel anything for the characters. Visuals were nice. Story didnt really Go anywhere for me.
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Yea, this pretty much mirrors my thoughts. The characters and villain left a poor impression overall. Great concept, just rough execution.
 
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Angel_DvA

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mrkgoo said:
I guess,
blowing up cities, and installations, even their own, and murdering their own engineers out of spite
doesn't count as particularly villainous these days.
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lmao.

Sojgat said:
Seen it twice now. Rankings:

Empire > A New Hope > Rogue One > Return of the Jedi > The Force Awakens >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Menace > Clones > Sith

Kind of in shock how much I liked this movie.
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Pretty much mine but for the prelogy, I'll go: Sith > Menace > Clones.
 
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Slixshot

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J_Viper said:
Damn, I guess the bad part of living in NY is that almost every theater has reserved seats, meaning they're all completely sold out for the weekend.

Welp, I gotta hope the Magic Johnson theater experience wasn't as terrible as it was last time.
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Tomorrow Night 34th Street theater has an IMAX 3D showing with like nobody in it at 10:45.
 
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FelipeMGM

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Just watched and really liked the movie. The first hour was mixed with good and bad moments (a lot of generic dialogue in the first half), but that second half was straight perfect. What an amazing ending
 
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cacildo

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Just got back

It was ok


It dosent feel wrong or anything. Its just that the group really didnt feel connected

I read people saying "its overcomplicated". It really, really isnt

I read people saying "the last half hour is fantastic!!!!". It really isnt

It was ok
 
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Bobby Roberts

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cacildo said:
It was ok

It dosent feel wrong or anything.

It was ok

Its just that the group really didnt feel connected

It was ok

I read people saying "its overcomplicated". It really, really isnt. It was ok.

I read people saying "the last half hour is fantastic!!!!". It really isnt. It was ok

It was ok
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Symphonic

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cacildo said:
Just got back

It was ok


It dosent feel wrong or anything. Its just that the group really didnt feel connected

I read people saying "its overcomplicated". It really, really isnt

I read people saying "the last half hour is fantastic!!!!". It really isnt

It was ok
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I want to take this review seriously but I'm having a hard time

It was ok
 
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EdReedFan20

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Timu said:
Agreed, Clones is one of the few that I hate rewatching.
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For me, it is the one where the CG really stands out (in a bad way). Seriously, some of the scenes during the Geonosis battle is nothing but CG. Also, for me, musically, it is the worst of the soundtracks (the only stand-out thing being Across the Stars).

ROTS' CG effects are "better", but still pretty bad. And before people say the prequels had as many (if not more) physical effects as the originals, that means nothing when they were composited in. When the actors have little to act against, their performance can suffer. The only example I can think of right now, were an actor did quite well with that little, was the kid in The Jungle Book.

I actually like CG, but bad CG is noticeable and the prequels had lots of that. This is a good video that shows how good CGI can be for movies when used properly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bL6hp8BKB24&index=81&list=FLyUiDqcEnAZR5buILJlvf7Q
 
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munchie64

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SomewhatGroovy said:
Apply your logic to any other field and take a hard look in the mirror and ask yourself what point you're driving at here.

Picture a Project manager hiring contractual engineers for a project. He hires hundreds of people. One of them outlines a plan. It's scrapped , he leaves and others come up with derivatives of said plan with the same objective. Two years later, the project is complete. It is met with success. It may even win an award. Out of nowhere, the dude who left two years ago is jumping up and down "WE DID IT"

You lot are the few people in the audience wide eyed, nodding your head and clapping at the dude while the rest stand look dazed and confused. You go home, put on your fedoras and your most intelligent comment of the night is "not a lot of people can say they did what he did!"

Brilliant
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That... isn't how it works though?

Take your own advice and don't worry too much about the work of other people that you know little about.
 
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EBreda

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Just came from a midnight screening and honestly it was meh.

First, while I did like the visuala, I really didn't like how one person in every dialogue is extremely out of focus just to make a 3d point.

Also the cg on villain face looks exactly like the one in Tron Evo. It's been almost a decade and it looks like no advances were achieved. Weird.

Score was a mixed bad imo. The remixing of the original songs were really fabulous but I felt original pieces were lacking.

Movie couldn't make me care for this characters. I know the story going in obviously (haven't watched any trailers though) and despite its best efforts, director could not make me care for this crew. Except for the badass duo. Everyone else, really, lacks something. No emotional attachment at all.

Last 2o minutes or so were good no doubt. But the rest is middle of the road.
 
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duckroll

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SomewhatGroovy said:
Gary Whitta trying to get his shit in in the comments section is embarrasing.
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SomewhatGroovy said:
Who is even arguing this embarrassingly stupid and trifle point? Is that supposed to be some standard for success now lol?

This is as shitty as the flood of "lol what do you mean the game is shit. Let's see yours" posts that flood gaming side.

Grow up.



Apply your logic to any other field and take a hard look in the mirror and ask yourself what point you're driving at here.

Picture a Project manager hiring contractual engineers for a project. He hires hundreds of people. One of them outlines a plan. It's scrapped , he leaves and others come up with derivatives of said plan with the same objective. Two years later, the project is complete. It is met with success. It may even win an award. Out of nowhere, the dude who left two years ago is jumping up and down "WE DID IT"

You lot are the few people in the audience wide eyed, nodding your head and clapping at the dude while the rest stand look dazed and confused. You go home, put on your fedoras and your most intelligent comment of the night is "not a lot of people can say they did what he did!"

Brilliant
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You're the biggest embarrassment in this thread so far. Take your own advice and grow up.
 
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captjohnboyd

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Going to see it tomorrow. Pumped as all get out. Regardless of its flaws I loved TFA in the theater and I expect I'll love this too. It's just really hard for me not to have fun in big budget sci fi movies even when they're not that good.

Side note. I didn't realize Bobby Roberts came back and I'm just as excited for that. He and I haven't really interacted beyond once or twice but I always enjoy the heck out of his commentary
 
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Sanctuary

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Boke1879 said:
Well TFA turned out to be a fun good movie.
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Sure, if you don't mind watching ANH redux. I enjoyed it the two times I watched it, but it by no means was anywhere near as memorable as the films from the original trilogy, and not just because I had already seen those countless times. It didn't do much of anything that was new. The best thing about it was that it opened the door for more (and most likely better) Star Wars films.
 
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Bobby Roberts

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Neither does this.

They're Star Wars movies.

There's only so much "new" you can honestly go looking for. New is "Arrival" or "Midnight Special." Star Wars is for when you want interesting twists on tried and true recipes.

People act like "originality" carries so much more weight than it really does.

It's a lot of original bullshit out there, too. What matters isn't where the story was recycled from (and almost all of them are in some form or another) it's how it got recycled, and what materials got incorporated into the larger, very familiar whole.

I mean, there's only so much weight "it's not new" can hold as a criticism when you're voluntarily going into your 7th and 8th iteration of the same 40 year old story. I'm not saying it holds NO weight, but it's certainly not the heaviest shit on the scale.
 
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Branduil

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Even the originality of the first Star Wars film primarily came from its unique re-mixing of film history, the way it blended together westerns, old serials, samurai films, and sci-fi.

I don't think it's possible for a new film to have that kind of impact any more. Certainly not a spin-off prequel, which will necessarily be constrained in what it can do.
 
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Osahi

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SomewhatGroovy said:
Who is even arguing this embarrassingly stupid and trifle point? Is that supposed to be some standard for success now lol?

This is as shitty as the flood of "lol what do you mean the game is shit. Let's see yours" posts that flood gaming side.

Grow up.



Apply your logic to any other field and take a hard look in the mirror and ask yourself what point you're driving at here.

Picture a Project manager hiring contractual engineers for a project. He hires hundreds of people. One of them outlines a plan. It's scrapped , he leaves and others come up with derivatives of said plan with the same objective. Two years later, the project is complete. It is met with success. It may even win an award. Out of nowhere, the dude who left two years ago is jumping up and down "WE DID IT"

You lot are the few people in the audience wide eyed, nodding your head and clapping at the dude while the rest stand look dazed and confused. You go home, put on your fedoras and your most intelligent comment of the night is "not a lot of people can say they did what he did!"

Brilliant
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Jesus. You really don't like Whitta do you? It's also great to see how much insight you had in the writing of this film or even films in general. Like you know for a fact his work was allmost completely scrapped and that there is no such job as story development.

Seriously dude, you are making a joke out of yourself
 
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Bobby Roberts

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From what I understand, John Knoll didn't even write a draft. Just worked up a half-hour pitch version of the general story.

I can't imagine anyone would even think to suggest he shouldn't be allowed to consider himself part of the creative team.

I mean, not unless he was a poster at a video game forum for a couple years. Then he'd be a real dipshit to even think he should represent himself as anything but a total professional failure.
 
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duckroll

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My understanding of the process is that John Knoll had this idea for the film and really wanted to pursue it. Gary Whitta and Gareth Edwards were attached to the project and developed what would be the actual movie. After Whitta finished his draft, they brought in other people to continue working on it during the production process. I think he has every reason to be proud of having worked on this. The only place there is a scenario where he was fired or whatever and they scrapped all his work, is in the minds of bitter resentful people who can't see to let go of some dumb internet grudge. Shameful really.
 
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Sanctuary

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Bobby Roberts said:
Neither does this.

They're Star Wars movies.

There's only so much "new" you can honestly go looking for. New is "Arrival" or "Midnight Special." Star Wars is for when you want interesting twists on tried and true recipes.

People act like "originality" carries so much more weight than it really does.

It's a lot of original bullshit out there, too. What matters isn't where the story was recycled from (and almost all of them are in some form or another) it's how it got recycled, and what materials got incorporated into the larger, very familiar whole.

I mean, there's only so much weight "it's not new" can hold as a criticism when you're voluntarily going into your 7th and 8th iteration of the same 40 year old story. I'm not saying it holds NO weight, but it's certainly not the heaviest shit on the scale.
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edit: You know what? I don't know why I even bothered to reply to this. You're actually saying what I want to see anyway, which wasn't at all about originality in the sense that it's never, ever been done before anywhere else anyway. I don't want to see the same thing done again within the context of the same series.

Branduil said:
Even the originality of the first Star Wars film primarily came from its unique re-mixing of film history, the way it blended together westerns, old serials, samurai films, and sci-fi.

I don't think it's possible for a new film to have that kind of impact any more. Certainly not a spin-off prequel, which will necessarily be constrained in what it can do.
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Pretty much everyone who's been invested in the series knows this by now. That's also not what I was talking about at all either. Arguing that there can't be anything new added to the Star Wars universe is pretty damn ridiculous anyway. We have exactly eight movies now, and at least three of them are just a hodgepodge of missed opportunities and outright bad ideas that were essentially written months prior to shooting with little to no outside influence, the original three that were mostly great aside from the Carebears and mostly original in some way, within the contexts of each individual story, despite being related in the overall arc and sharing some similar themes. The Force Awakens was the safest the franchise has ever been, terrified of not being a critical and financial success, and it barely even tried to add something different. It wasn't a bad movie, but it may as well have simply been called Star Wars: A New Remake.

I haven't seen Rogue One yet, but despite already knowing how things eventually turn out (due to ANH), that doesn't mean I've already seen everything that happened, or that I know exactly what the motivations of any of the key players is. With Lucas out of the way, and with all that's been written (and now able to be incorporated if Disney wishes) in the extended universe, there's a whole lot that can be added that we haven't seen yet regarding the Star Wars franchise, tropes and all.
 
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MMarston

Was getting caught part of your plan?
duckroll said:
My understanding of the process is that John Knoll had this idea for the film and really wanted to pursue it. Gary Whitta and Gareth Edwards were attached to the project and developed what would be the actual movie. After Whitta finished his draft, they brought in other people to continue working on it during the production process. I think he has every reason to be proud of having worked on this. The only place there is a scenario where he was fired or whatever and they scrapped all his work, is in the minds of bitter resentful people who can't see to let go of some dumb internet grudge. Shameful really.
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I am honestly unaware what the hell Whitta even did to GAF apart from just, like, not post anymore.
 
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Osahi

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MMarston said:
I am honestly unaware what the hell Whitta even did to GAF apart from just, like, not post anymore.
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Afaik some people resent him because they don't like his work, others because he deleted some critical Star Wars posts of him somewhere when he was in talks to do Rogue one. Mostly just overblown internet hysteria I guess. Some dude did something I didn't agree with or like, so lets shit on him like he's the second coming of Adolf or something.

I am pretty sure lots of his work is still on screen, as he was there from the beginning and developped the first drafts. Lots of story beats will be placed by him, lots of characters will have been developped by him, etc.
 
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mjontrix

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Better than TFA for sure.

Make sure you watch A New Hope first before this movie to refresh your memories! Otherwise you will get confused at parts.

If you've never seen Star Wars before you miiiight get away with it - I think in the future this will be the first movie to watch then 4,5,6,1,2,3,7.
 
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GAMEPROFF

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brandonh83 said:
Thanks to folks overcomplicating it, mostly.
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People should stop watching A New Hope at the moment Obi Wan remembers Anakin, start Phantom Menace from the scene he first meets the boy after Maul attacked, watch then the whole Prequel Trilogy until he leaves Anakin on Mustafar and then continue with the OT.

#TrueWatchingOrder
 
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brandonh83

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GAMEPROFF said:
People should stop watching A New Hope at the moment Obi Wan remembers Anakin, start Phantom Menace from the scene he first meets the boy after Maul attacked, watch then the whole Prequel Trilogy until he leaves Anakin on Mustafar and then continue with the OT.

#TrueWatchingOrder
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oh man, dear god
 
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mrkgoo

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GAMEPROFF said:
People should stop watching A New Hope at the moment Obi Wan remembers Anakin, start Phantom Menace from the scene he first meets the boy after Maul attacked, watch then the whole Prequel Trilogy until he leaves Anakin on Mustafar and then continue with the OT.

#TrueWatchingOrder
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There's got to bean ultimate cut where it's one big long movie with the prequels as flashbacks to what is happening in the OT.
 
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GAMEPROFF

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brandonh83 said:
oh man, dear god
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Makes more sense then the stupid order people came up last year, which didnt spoiled that Anakin was Darth Vader was Lukes father xD The most famous plot twist in popculture and people made something to not spoil it xD

And I wasnt serious with my order ;)
 
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Unit 33

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GAMEPROFF said:
People should stop watching A New Hope at the moment Obi Wan remembers Anakin, start Phantom Menace from the scene he first meets the boy after Maul attacked, watch then the whole Prequel Trilogy until he leaves Anakin on Mustafar and then continue with the OT.

#TrueWatchingOrder
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munchie64

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mrkgoo said:
There's got to bean ultimate cut where it's one big long movie with the prequels as flashbacks to what is happening in the OT.
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I shall prepare a "Lost edit" where the entire prequel trilogy is placed as multiple flashback scenes in every OT movie.

Then I shall finally become a true fan.
 
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brandonh83

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GAMEPROFF said:
Makes more sense then the stupid order people came up last year, which didnt spoiled that Anakin was Darth Vader was Lukes father xD The most famous plot twist in popculture and people made something to not spoil it xD

And I wasnt serious with my order ;)
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watch 4's opening crawl, STOP
watch Rogue One, continue with 4 until---
keep watching 4 STOP when Kenobi mentions clone wars
watch 1 and 2
watch clone wars STOP
watch 3, stop
continue with 4 and the rest of the OT STOP
watch TFA STOP
watch 8 STOP
watch Jurassic World STOP
watch 9

Then it shall all make sense.
 
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purseowner

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GAMEPROFF said:
I forgot that we need to add the scene with Padme giving birth to the twins when Leia claims on Endor to remember her mother.



The Star Wars Telltale Game will show a "Obi Wan will remember this" at that scene.
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"Vader has altered the deal. Pray he does not alter it further."
 
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Jibbed

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Going back to watch the opening of Episode IV now, Vader's anger in saying 'tear this ship apart' etc. seems totally justified. Great stuff.

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This scene though... LOL. They've literally just chased this ship halfway across the galaxy with the knowledge the plans are onboard, and the Imperial officer refuses to shoot an escape pod because it 'likely short-circuited'. It was dumb to begin with and now I can't help but laugh in disbelief.
 
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Carcetti

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After mulling a bit about Rogue One I can better tell what I liked about it. These are really things that only would affect a Star Wars movie, not general movie criticism.

It's not really a Star Wars movie in the sense that all the Star Wars movies so far follow a very familiar and tight storytelling formula that we've gotten used to. Rogue One doesn't do that, it's more of a action/war movie set in the Star Wars universe. It's not all great but it feels refreshing even with the retreading.

The 2nd one is that the movie gives the start of ANH and the chase for the death star plans a good foundation because you get to see the stakes people put into getting those plans.
 
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