The Prestige was released after Begins...
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RTTP: Batman Begins. spoiler warning, there will be spoilers.
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The Prestige was released after Begins...
Mighty Chin
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I love that it doesn't take long for the Avengers to pop up.
Begins is the only Nolan Batman film I can and do rewatch. It's quite good. In my top 5 of Superhero movies easily. The other two are terrible movies IMO.
Begins is the only Nolan Batman film I can and do rewatch. It's quite good. In my top 5 of Superhero movies easily. The other two are terrible movies IMO.
SamuelSupreme
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It sucks that Nolan pretty much abandoned some supernatural aspects to Batman after this film. If Superman Returns didn't bomb we could have gotten a shared universe much earlier
I'm the same. It's entertaining all the way through and Batman has actual screen time being Batman.
TDK I'd only want to see the Joker scenes and you couldn't pay me to sit through TDKR again.
Are you guys sure we are talking about the same person here?
Terminator salvation and marky's marks pet project the fighter?
come on now.
Death Metalist
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Thank you for ignoring 3:10 to Yuma, The Prestige, Out of the Furnace (came out 2013), Rescue Dawn, American Hustle (also 2013), The Machinist, Howl's moving castle (granted it's voice only but he did a really good job), The Machinist, The Flowers of War, Equilibrium. All of these are good to great fucking movies that he did before and after BB.
TDK is my favourite. The nihilism of the Joker made the movie awesome. Also the OST.....man the OST. Zimmers career peaked in that movie.
BBs first half is good imho but then it gets a bit weird.
I also liked Gotham more in BB. In TDK and TDKR its just NYC, especially in TDKR it was too obvious.
BBs first half is good imho but then it gets a bit weird.
I also liked Gotham more in BB. In TDK and TDKR its just NYC, especially in TDKR it was too obvious.
Before Begins he was in Equilibrium and other low-budget projects, it wasn't until he landed the Batman role that he became recognized WW and now he is almost in every movie.
I like BB, but TDK is still my favorite and the best superhero movie by far.
crimzonflame
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First 3/4 of the film is the best in the trilogy, but the final act is a drag.
Hasphat'sAnts
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He won an Oscar...
I was trying to ignore the duds. He hasn'th done anything worthwhile since he got cast as the batman.
Yup.
Machinist, equilibrium, are the types of move bale was made for. (hint: pre batman)
I'm not saying bale is a bad actor, I'm saying these shitty nolan films created a bubble for him where can't be in movies that are actually good.
I watched Out of the Furnace a few weeks back, and you could have channing tatum in the role and nothing would change.
It was good but the zimmer score was really kind of generic standard zimmer. That theme is interchangeable with half a dozen others and doesn't really have any particular batman vibe. The music for BTAS and the arkham games is better in that regard. Nolan trilogy score had no cellos or slow creeping strings. I made a heavy batman fan listen to the zimmer theme and they knew they'd heard it before but couldn't place it. I put on the Burton batman opening theme and they immediately went "that one's batman."
RustyNails
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Err no.
I don't remember any superhero themes at the top off my head other than Donner Superman, Burton Batman and Nolan Batman.
Iron Mans, Hulks, Spidermans, every other superhero movie theme is drawing a blank with me at the moment, including Zimmer's own composition for MOS.
I'm rather fond of the Captain America First Avenger Theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-v3wHyR-no
I do enjoy that we can't go one Batman thread around here without being subjected to complete and utter nonsense. Never change GAF.
Halcyon
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I agree.
Spoilers: This is the end of the movie. This is batman to me. All 3 movies have awesome endings, but godamit I love the ending of Begins.
http://youtu.be/IwkgVMb-bV0?t=1m8s
My biggest gripes with all the Nolan films is the overall mediocre fight sequences and a lack of the Batman as a terrifying figure bordering on myth and superstition. The latter is something I think the first Burton film did a lot better imo. Keaton-bats was legit terrifying, on par with the Joker. Baleman is more of a ninja commando which is fine but not my favorite version of batman.
Begins was pretty good, though I think all the Nolan batmans are a smidge overrated.
Begins was pretty good, though I think all the Nolan batmans are a smidge overrated.
Blasphemy! Elfman's spiderman theme and the main theme in Thor are friggin awesome and totally memorable.
I got around to watching ASM2 this weekend and really missed Elfman's music :-(
umberhulk2
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"The things they say about him, can he really fly?"
"I heard he can disappear."
"Well, we'll find out, won't we."
Great setup, but the fight itself sucked. I love the film. It's probably my favorite, but I think I just prefer the slower, more "personal" pace to the movie.
"I heard he can disappear."
"Well, we'll find out, won't we."
Great setup, but the fight itself sucked. I love the film. It's probably my favorite, but I think I just prefer the slower, more "personal" pace to the movie.
Sibersk Esto
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That "Marky Mark pet project" won him an Academy Award and a Golden Globe. I don't know what reality you're talking about
Pity award.
The movie was good, but it wasn't great.
We live in a world were people in populace can evaluate things. To be frank the plot of the movie was a great platform.
I admire Wahlberg for what he wants to do but, he just doesn't have the talent. He roped bale into participating into his experiment. It didn't work out.
Bale did the whole "tuna a day" to lose weight, and then he lost weight again for this movie? His heart wasn't in it. Why? Cause Nolan inflated him.
You realize how ridiculous you sound at this point, right?
I sound ridiculous cause I'm not on that bale train?
Again, I'm not saying he's a bad actor, he's actually very good. However, he keeps getting caught up with people like nolan that just annihilate his credibility.
Sibersk Esto
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People don't find Nolan credible?
Not people with taste.
lol Copernidickus.
American Hustle, The Fighter, 3:10 to Yuma, and The Prestige were all premier performances.
flaxknuckles
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That would have been the worst. No way stiff Baleman would be able to hang with Supes and red pantieman is an abomination.
Sibersk Esto
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ok
Sorry bro, three ten and prestige were in production while batman beginstoshititself were in production and not released.
I said my peace about the fighter, it was bale fighting for his career.
The guy is living in his own little world. Don't venture too far into the void or you'll get sucked in!
Death Metalist
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If these are all duds to you then I feel sorry for you, lol. I respect your opinion though. Anyways, I don't want to go on further so that I don't derail the thread.
To be on topic, I love the entire trilogy because every movie had something I really loved and enjoyed. Good stuff.
Sapiens
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I'm a fucking idiot - I meant to say that Begins was a boon for his career.
No, you were right, prestige was an attempt from bale to crawl himself up from batman.
This theme was great. The music in the amazing spiderman just wasn't on that level. A very curious thing to me is that the theme for the amazing Spider Man game is actually better than every song in the ASM movie and comparable to Elfman's in the raimi trilogy. It's really good. I do remember the ending theme of Begins being good now that I think of it.
I agree to an extent, Bale hasn't done anything good since he started TDK.
isn't american hustle supposed to be good? It's on my "want to watch" list.
and american psycho is one of my favorite movies. I love me some bale.
AlteredBeast
Fork 'em, Sparky!
This is objectively false. DKR isn't even a good movie, much less a good Batman movie. BB is the best superhero movie ever made, while TDK is up there. Once again, TDKR is not a good film.
I loved this part so much. Just perfectly brought a little of that scary "he's not human" creature of the night type fear into the people.
Discotheque
Banned
good movie, peaks with the first hour though. such a good origin.
and new world is the GOAT movie with christian bale.
and new world is the GOAT movie with christian bale.
I always felt that the two movies were supposed to be connected somehow, I mean the movies were called Batman Begins and Superman Returns which felt like they were trying tie them together with some kind of "theme". I know there were one or two easter eggs in Superman Returns relating to Gotham. A shame it never eventuated because it could have been something cool back then (regardless of what you think of Routh as Superman.) Maybe some of Comic-GAF can shed some light on this if there's any information on this subject out there?
In regards to Batman Begins as a movie, agree with some other members about that first hour - brilliant.
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