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RUMOR: NX more powerful than PS4, Splatoon/Mario Maker ports in development
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Not at all lol
Where does he make it sound like he has any knowledge about it? And you know that you just quoted him, just wondering as you call him "they guy".
wild wild rice
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I'm starting to believe that maybe the NX actually will end up in the ballpark of PS4, which is more than I expected.
But the idea of dumping a few Wii U ports seems sort of lazy and un-Nintendo like. Doesn't matter either way really, I'm not rebuying any of those games though I'm definitely on board for the sequels.
But the idea of dumping a few Wii U ports seems sort of lazy and un-Nintendo like. Doesn't matter either way really, I'm not rebuying any of those games though I'm definitely on board for the sequels.
amstradcpc
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Would be funny NX launched with a Polaris 11 and PS4k with a Polaris 10 GPU.
Did you see Robertson's video on "Metroid secrets"? He practically says he snuck into Sakamoto's bedroom and read his diary divulging all the Metroid Dread secrets from Japan.
A lot of it contradicted what Sakamoto revealed about the project during a candid GDC interview.
Rentahamster
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I feel like it's been a while since Nintendo's dropped a fuckton of bombs all at once. Maybe I'm remembering my history wrong since I didn't pay that much attention to it, but I've associated Nintendo with blue balls for a while now. It would be nice to blow a huge load at E3 sometime.
Sort of lazy kinda sounds Nintendo-like to be honest.
I sincerely don't even know what you're talking about, man. I was just commenting on TiLMEN's rumour. Chill.
What's the relation to the tweets above? He doesn't say he has knowledge about Retro working on Metroid.
You do realize the person you're quoting *IS* the person who made that tweet, right? Unless you're talking about TiLmen, in which case, yes, you're correct, he's a bogus phony.
wild wild rice
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Then I guess you haven't played many Nintendo games outside of Amiibo Festival lately. Their first party games are generally amongst the most polished and content packed out there. Maybe you don't like them, but calling them lazy is a pretty lazy thing to do.
Broken Joystick
At least you can talk. Who are you?
Lmao that's a TiLMEN rumour. He's been banned from this very board. Don't give him the time of day. Nothing to do with Liam.
Hot Coldman
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No shit, it's just a bit of fun. Chill
I just can't imagine this being true. It'd be such a huge 180 for Nintendo as this is a decision that would have been made while Iwata was still alive.
I also can't see this happening with Genya Takeda still at the helm of hardware development (I assume).
I figure NX's power will be in a ballpark where downgraded current gen ports are possible.
I also can't see this happening with Genya Takeda still at the helm of hardware development (I assume).
I figure NX's power will be in a ballpark where downgraded current gen ports are possible.
Out of all the things to be critical about, porting that selection of games is definitely a good idea. They could be publishing trash like Sing It Party and the Lego City Stories as filler instead.
SONy ported their entire digital catalog and several of their big PS3 games over instantly.
Shotgun Kiss
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Actually, I thought of something incredibly important Nintendo need to do for their next system to do well; repair relations with retailers. In the UK, dedicated game stores are the only places you can buy Wii U or 3DS games at retail. Supermarkets and even HMV don't seem to carry them at all. From what I hear, it's a similar situations in other parts of the world also.
I can understand them being reluctant to stock Wii U games, but the Nintendo 3DS is doing very well. And they don't even stock amiibos, yet the shelves are full of Skylander figures. No way Skylander figures sell better than amiibos at present.
Obviously Nintendo seems to have lost value as a whole in their eyes, so Nintendo need to convince them to support them again.
I can understand them being reluctant to stock Wii U games, but the Nintendo 3DS is doing very well. And they don't even stock amiibos, yet the shelves are full of Skylander figures. No way Skylander figures sell better than amiibos at present.
Obviously Nintendo seems to have lost value as a whole in their eyes, so Nintendo need to convince them to support them again.
WhiteRabbitEXE
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Low-spec burned Nintendo with the Wii after the casuals moved onto the iPhone, and it burned them out of the gate on Wii U. No one's going to do the same thing three times in a row and expect it to work. Suddenly.
All the same people at Nintendo were against mobile and online, before their positions shift. They're not permanently set in stone.
The new CEO could probably have changed specs. Console specs change and the actual die would not have been fabricated yet. Most modern GPUs are very modular, adding more CU on an AMD GPU isn't going to turn it into something completely new, neither is upping the clocks.
My analysis was just based on the leak. Im sure theres more and love to be wrong.
I feel this is a major miss conception across the whole board. This FY (April 2015-March 2016) will most likely have the lowest amount of hardware sales (handheld and console combined) since the release of Pokemon in 1996. The numbers certainly wont grow this year. Nintendo needs to react and release new hardware + new AAA-games.
Yes the 3DS has a great support for the remaining year but its mostly just localizations and niche games besides Pokemon. These games wont move hardware or sell million copies.
Right, but this doesnt solve any of Nintendo´s problems.
Captain Smoker
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No system is going to run games in 4K and to me it doesn't make sense either (production cost vs. amount of potential customers).
4K is probably more about movies (Netflix, etc.) than games.
Notor!ousG
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I'm having a hard time believing this. Sony probably doesn't know more than us about NX.
Sony also has no reason to fear the NX at all. They're doing fine.
Always-honest
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That just wouldn't make sense. They would be in the exact same position.
Well, that was one of the very best Lego games so...
SmokedMeat
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I don't think anyone is concerned about Nintendo.
Sammy Samusu
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What about Hyrule Warriors?
This does not make sense. The rumor was that ps4k would cost 400 or even 500. Nintendo launching a 400 machine is the end and they are not going to loss lead. None of this adds up to me!
Lego City Undercover is anything but trash. I'd rate it higher than the majority of Nintendo's in-house games this gen (only negative was the loading times). I'd also be more likely to buy a NX port of that than either Smash Bros or Mario Maker (as ther extra power would do far more to improve that visually).
I expect the PS4K will be upscaling games and the OS to 4K. if they have parts of the OS running at 1080 and videos running at 4K they will need to do a resolution switch on the tv which looks terrible.
PS4k will not be 4k, 4k is 4x as many pixels as the PS4 pushes, in order to do that, they would need more than 2x the GPU (it would need to be 4x)
Taking a look at their VC titles, online system, Miiverse implementation with all the loading, the Miitomo app, ports such as Wind Waker HD where the best part (Tingle Tuner) was left out, or even some of their recent 1st party titles makes me think they often prefer going the sort of lazy route.
It's sadly not 2007 anymore when they created lots of innovative and novel titles. Even their eShop output has dried up compared WiiWare and DSiWare. Call me bitter, but I actually enjoyed Last Window, Jam with the Band, Wario Ware DIY, or Elite Beat Agents. Not too interested in playing More Zelda, More 2D Mario, and the like, and thus I totally see why the 3DS sales are lagging far behind those of the DS. Well, at least I got boxboy, the Pullbox games, and NES Remix out of it.
I seriously wonder what happened after the DS/Wii success. Going from one of the most successful consoles with lots of creative titles to "just more of the same" systems with 3DS and Wii U.
Funny side note: The developers of Sing Party don't even list the game on their website anymore, must be too ashamed.
Captain Smoker
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One thing that interests me is how much they're going to push their digital business, since it's getting stronger and stronger.
30.5 billion Yen is 279 million dollars.
Probably one reason why My Nintendo only offers digital discounts / games.
*Consider that half of the digital revenue in this fiscal year is generated by DLC.
30.5 billion Yen is 279 million dollars.
Probably one reason why My Nintendo only offers digital discounts / games.
*Consider that half of the digital revenue in this fiscal year is generated by DLC.
Yes, that's also a possibility.
PS4K will probably have parts of the VR inside increasing costs and also having a 4K blu ray player increasing costs again. Nintendo wont have them and will have a new design which could be more cost effective (like no hard drive or even disc drive etc)
LordOfChaos
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Echoing what I said in the last thread that was closed, Cerny readily admitted the PS4 was slightly skewed towards extra GPU CUs, such that you'd have extra GPU compute power even if the graphics side was limited by the CPUs submission rate.
So for "balance", the 15-30% stronger CPU may not necessarily be paired with a much better GPU than the PS4, maybe about the same or better but under the 15-30% from the CPU side.
That would be enough to make me enthusiastic though, matching the GPU while topping the CPU of the PS4.
Curious what memory technology they'll be using. Hopefully not spending die area on eDRAM/eSRAM a la Wii U/Xbox One and just having a fast memory pool, saving GPU die area for GPU stuff a la PS4.
I'm talking about upscaling not native.
You can build a more powerful console than PS4 for under $300 or they wouldn't sell the PS4 for that price.
14nm, ARM, lpddr4 and no disc drive would all help with this, also polaris if it is cheaper. This might be one of those situations where NX is out of stock like the Wii, mostly because they didn't/couldn't make enough. These technologies would quickly show the price drop as well.
I was under the assumption that the better hardware was more to give the PSVR the resources it would need to play games as involving as, say, multiplayer shooters. More of a "2K" device as it would be able to throw up two 1080p screens at 60fps under heavier loads.
Nikodemos
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The PS4+, if it will exist in roughly the shape described by the rumours, will most likely be a pre-emptive reaction to not being able to squeeze any more VR blood out of the PS4 turnip. It's no secret some games simply can't hold a stable 60 fps (cert req for VR) and still maintain decently high LOD on it. Sony is basically competing with themselves with it.
Fahzgoolin
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I'm still concerned about what Nintendo is going to do when a PS5 comes out. They are still out of sync in the console race.
The NX could be out for 3 more years and the PS5 could then come out.
The NX could be out for 3 more years and the PS5 could then come out.
Probably a new DLC pack after Zelda U/NX comes out or maybe a sequel after Zelda U/NX + next handheld Zelda. They just came out with portable Hyrule Warriors, so they're unlikely to want to do a quick port on another console version.
mourad louali
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Upscaling cost almost nothing performance wise
And why would they upscale to 4K when most people are limited to 1080p?
neurosyphilis
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Someone is in for a rude awakening if they think power is the sole reason those games aren't on Nintendo platforms.The return of the king , The Sony evil years are done
Seriously , NX needs to be more powerfull than PS4 so developers like Rockstar and From put their games on nintendo s console
One thing that interests me is how much they're going to push their digital business, since it's getting stronger and stronger.
30.5 billion Yen is 279 million dollars.
Probably one reason why My Nintendo only offers digital discounts / games.
*Consider that half of the digital revenue in this fiscal year is generated by DLC.
Yes, that's also a possibility.
I won't be that surprised if Nintendo go all digital with NX. Removing that bulky disc drive has got to be a tempting move for them when they consider the additional costs involved.
Embrace it Kevin. This isn't your daddy's Nintendo!
I wouldn't mind the current console cycle to go on just a bit longer, but you've made an excellent point.
Well it is a large factor of that considering that completely different architectures and huge power deltas means a large increase in porting costs.
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