Charlie0108
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The poster implied at first that they'd seen the leaks firsthand, not that they were getting them second hand through a friend with no real evidence that they'd actually seen them prior to Salandit's reveal.
Rumor: Possible Pokemon Sun and Moon Chinese Leaks [SPOILERS]
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The poster implied at first that they'd seen the leaks firsthand, not that they were getting them second hand through a friend with no real evidence that they'd actually seen them prior to Salandit's reveal.
Geminosity
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:3
If the Sync stuff has any basis in truth i wonder if that means we could get dress up braixen
Just occurred to me: Braixen is pretty much the best middle form design ever made
Not sure what happened with Delphox. I mean, it's cool and all, but it's no Braixen!
And yes, I agree, we should be able to dress it up and put Lucina's boots on it
edit: oh you didn't specify Lucina's boots?
Not sure what happened with Delphox. I mean, it's cool and all, but it's no Braixen!
And yes, I agree, we should be able to dress it up and put Lucina's boots on it
edit: oh you didn't specify Lucina's boots?
Pretty sure it's third hand because they claim their friend "saw" it.
Cresselia~~ said:
Geminosity
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No... no I didn't ¬.¬
I'm inclined to agree that Braixen is my fave middle evo, especially of the starters. Delphox was like Dragonite levels of disappointment to me.
I'd actually be happy if Pokemon company gave braixen some way of being usable instead of delphox like they did with pikachu and the light ball
Yeah, Braixen is pretty much a perfect design. And it would seem Nintendo and TPC know this, too, based on how it's Braixen in Pokken. And I don't watch the anime, but it would seem Braixen is prominently featured there, too?No... no I didn't ¬.¬
I'm inclined to agree that Braixen is my fave middle evo, especially of the starters. Delphox was like Dragonite levels of disappointment to me.
I'd actually be happy if Pokemon company gave braixen some way of being usable instead of delphox like they did with pikachu and the light ball
Geminosity
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Yup, hence the ease at which I find pics of Braixen, especially in costumes (the blue dress is from the anime ED, and she has two other ones for episodes where they perform)
Talking of 2nd forms, I do find myself wondering what lies between the leaks and what we know. Seems odd to have some ideas regarding the start and finish of the new pokes without having a clue what the middle point are like
PadWarrior
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Ash greninja will take down all the new starters.
Yup, hence the ease at which I find pics of Braixen, especially in costumes (the blue dress is from the anime ED, and she has two other ones for episodes where they perform)
Talking of 2nd forms, I do find myself wondering what lies between the leaks and what we know. Seems odd to have some ideas regarding the start and finish of the new pokes without having a clue what the middle point are like
Hopefully, none of the 2nd forms are better than the final evo this time..
With protean its not hard
As a frequent poster on Smogon and from my personal experience with her, I highly, highly doubt Cresselia~ would lie about anything related to this. There really isn't a benefit on Smogon for doing that. I guess it'd grant her notoriety outside of the site, but she legit seemed worried about her "smogon reputation" being dragged through the mud if this turns out false, which I doubt would happen lol.
In fact she seems pretty unsure about the rumor at the moment, mainly because she thinks the idea of a Pokemon game without gym leaders to be pretty crazy! She just shared this because the rumor may have predicted Salandit is all.
I should also note that the Orange Islands part of Smogon (that's basically the only forum where you get Pokemon discussion that isn't in a competitive context) tends to be pretty strict when it comes to discussion about rumors. People who spread rumors don't necessarily get banned, but discussion about them gets shut down pretty fast, to the point where the Sun and Moon thread gets locked once there's nothing to really talk about. The fact that they're having a "free-for-all weekend" over a rumor is very unusual to say the least!
Of course, this all could be hogwash in the end. But if it is, please don't claim that Cresselia~ made it all up, because honestly, this blew up way beyond her expectations when she just wanted to share something interesting she heard about with Smogoners.
Speaking of gen 5, so many shattered dreams once pignite was on 2 feet and Oshawott/Dewott leading to samurott.
If these end up real it's pretty hard for them NOT to be
if they are at least then I can just slap an Eviolite on 'em and pretend it's the final form.
I don't think they made it up, but I don't have very much trust in her friend or her friend's source.
Its nice how I accidentally added an extra "not" there, completely ruining my original point lol
edit: Or something like this. idk, communication is hard. Or I'm simply still salty with Braixen evolving into Delphox..
Hero Prinny
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to this day i think samurott is easily without a doubt the worst final evo starter that we have ever gotten. holy shit that shit is so fucking ugly in every sense of the word. The other 2 gen 5 final evos are also bad, gen 5 easily has the worst starters imo. Anyway, gamefreak would really have to go out of their way to make a final evo starter look worse than samurott imo. Maybe once gen 5 starters get mega evos it might save their designs, its the best we can wish for tbh
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
I'm surprised the "No Gyms" is a deal-breaker for so many people in terms of legitimacy, honestly that's how I'd been feeling Game Freak were going for weeks now.
Hey hey the regal snake is great and I don't hate samurott despite it's artist block design. Emboar tho...Being the 3rd fire fighter in a row was a mistake.
Geminosity
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Me too Ahnez, me too... but she got into Pokken in her best form at least :3
Hero Prinny
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i dislike the snake, the boar is just.. ugh, third time in a row, really...? and samuratt.. i truly hate that thing. its the only pokemon design that i legit hate actually
Yees I know :3
I guess we can't have a 'cute' final evo starter.. It always goes back to the 'badass' template
Subtervotion
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I've got to agree with the gen 5 starter hate. I actually really like all three starters first forms. Pignite is the only second form I don't really like. And all three final forms just aren't what I like. I don't hate Serperior but I wish it had some minor differences. Emboar isn't really all that bad, but I just wish Tepig would have gotten a four legged final form. And Samurai, goddamn, did they ever fuck that up. Dewott was awesome looking.
Anyway, I'm looking forward to the next info dump from Nintendo. No gyms would be real interesting though.
Anyway, I'm looking forward to the next info dump from Nintendo. No gyms would be real interesting though.
Geminosity
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Agreed. That's why my starters in most Pokemon games get banked. Some of the initial forms are adorable but they turn ugly real quick in most cases. I genuinely thought Fennekin's line was going to break that curse until my poor Braixen evolved into a bag lady :/
Here's hoping Popplio (or if the leaks are fake, any of the 3) at least gets us one of the first beautiful final evos perhaps. I still prefer cute, but graceful is good too :3
One thing I'm getting a bit tired of in the new designs is the drastic changes in evolution lines, what use to turn into more refined versions of base stages is sometimes totally different, sometimes 2 different designers work on a evolution line, which after a few mon lines is a bit nutty imo (I'm okay with a couple). It feels more like a wacky abstract collage, mosiac etc.
I love human shaped Pokemon like Thro and Sawk oni-demons and Hitmonchan Lee, Jynx, but they are getting way to liberal with applying human elements to animals and it just feels a bit uninspiring, you can work the element type into the animal more and not throw in a man made gimmick if all else fails.
I love human shaped Pokemon like Thro and Sawk oni-demons and Hitmonchan Lee, Jynx, but they are getting way to liberal with applying human elements to animals and it just feels a bit uninspiring, you can work the element type into the animal more and not throw in a man made gimmick if all else fails.
Hero Prinny
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i wish totodile stayed cute. he's the cutest base starter imo, it's just so happy and full of energy. i wish so bad it stayed like that
Geminosity
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No
...Joking aside, I liked Chikorita but the rest of their line left me cold. It went from cute, bizarre and unidentifiable plant thing to 'dinosaur wearing a flower'
All three have the potential to become something adorable.. But we know it won't happen - not to all three at least..
No
Geminosity
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Pokemon Company must've decided that the line was to represent their fans: starting out happy and fully of optimism only to evolve into something a lot more angry/jaded looking and spikey
PadWarrior
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Lol the bond between ash and greninja is greater than protean.Hopefully, none of the 2nd forms are better than the final evo this time..
With protean its not hard
-Pyromaniac-
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Why do they have to turn every cool 4 legged starter into a 2 legged monster.
balladofwindfishes
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NeonZ
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Ash actually had already defeated some weak Mega in the show without Mega. Ash Greninja is hyped by the show as a power beyond Mega Evolution.
Aaronrules380
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I saw it, I don't think it has any credibility though
Technically isn't Cyndaquil/Typhlosion still a quadruped? He rises to be intimidating but he's not going to move very far or fast on two legs with how short his are, he's clearly still a quadruped runner and animal.
main problem with that is the supposed pics of the starters came before that.
As I said on Smogon, I'm fairly skeptical of that 4chan leak for a mechanical reason: notice how Tapu Lele is Fairy / Flying. That'd be pretty weird, because Flying-types are immune to terrains, so it wouldn't be able to take advantage of its Misty Terrain on its own!
Of course gamefreak isn't immune to weirdness, such as leaving Damp on Jellicent despite it getting a Ghost-typing added late in development, or them keeping Levitate on Rotom-S when it became part Flying in gen 5. Still though, I'd find it strange if we had a legendary with a Terrain that it couldn't take advantage of itself!
Of course I guess they could change how terrains work and make Flying-types get affected him too. Still, it does ring a few alarms to me, especially since Flying-types being immune to Terrains was another major thing that separated them from weathers.
Pokemon is in the middle of a large anthropomorphic shift (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AnthropomorphicShift) a lot like what Digimon went through. But since this is a monster collection franchise, they aren't altering old designs (except for Pikachu and Meowth which happened years ago) so much as a majority of new Pokemon are anthro.
There's probably a lot of reasons. Humanoids are easier to market than animals. And easier to fit into vertical group shots, easier to make overworld models, easier to make toys of. A lot of practical reasons that do indeed make things more "boring". And of course, there's the competition with Yo-Kai Watch. Nearly every Yo-Kai is bipedal and more like an individual than a "animal" species, and I feel that's the way Pokemon is moving towards to in order to compete.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
the quad mons ended up being unpopular
also what, cats can stand on two feet too so I have no problem with that
I feel like the only one who thinks Serperior looks awful.
Ehhh...GF have never made an event pokemon central to the story. Especially since QR codes for Magearna are being given out before the game's release.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
yeah I can finally have my king of dinosaurs hawlucha vs tiger mask litten dream match come true
burntchomsky
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Ok, so he's on the translation team, but he writes
Now either he was a very very good candidate for getting fired from a translation team, OR that is a big red flag that this is fake.
Maintenance
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Samurott is cool, screw the haters.
This is not a Pokemon Go thread, please exit to your left.
Vire
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Ok? I'm strictly talking about how the designs of the new Pokemon are horribly over designed, filled with too many intricate pieces and colors that detract from the simplicity that the older Pokemon's had.
Now they just look like Digimon's and that sucks. Hopefully that concept art is a bunch of phooey.