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[Brucey]

If the main games come out on the PS5 (and they will, this leak seems real) that's the end. There was a console called Neo geo CD that had the brilliant idea of releasing its games days later on other competitors at the time and what happened was the end of the company as a console manufacturer.

Since 2013, Microsoft has been betting on dozens of ideas based on failed ideas on old consoles. It's as if they said with us it will be different but it's a serious mistake.

They said we've got literally unlimited amounts of money to spend courtesy of vast profits from Office and Windows sales, we can succeed....

 

[Brucey]

Xbox can keep them all

They all look a bit shit.

Series S holding things back? Less access to the bare metal due to sdk limitations/virtualization?

 

[Topher]

Yes it will

For awhile

Are you still of the opinion that the next Xbox hardware won't be a traditional console?

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Are you still of the opinion that the next Xbox hardware won't be a traditional console?

99.9%

But will have the console like experience

 

[Topher]

99.9%

But will have the console like experience

 

[SteadyEvo]

Good news if true. Sure alot of work goes into these games. The more that play the better for them.

 

[adamsapple]

99.9%

But will have the console like experience

Sounds like something I can see myself paying $999.99 or more.

 

[Topher]

Sounds like something I can see myself paying $999.99 or more.

I can see the "how much to build an Xbox PC" YouTube videos already.

 

[indigoSociety]

Eh...your opinions on Xbox are fine my man. I don't necessarily agree with them, but that's ok. Just don't get this need to critique the objectivity and emotional state of others who may not agree. That's just not a good argument at all. Meanwhile, you chastise me for not knowing your "inner thoughts". You do realize that works both ways, right? Disagreeing with you does not equate to being "emotional".

However, I will say that yes, I am being "assumptive" about the next Xbox not being a console. Of course, you are assuming it will be a console so how is that any different? If you can find me a quote where Microsoft says their upcoming hardware will be a console then I'll be happy to admit I was wrong.

honestly bro i appreciate your ability to be combative and play devils advocate on everything but youre exhausting because youre trying to make this a game of mental gymnastics when all i did was make some points that youre either agreeable with or not. Yes maybe im assumptive that the other guy is emotional and you as well but im just basing it off the responses. Seems to come from a charged place when i know for a fact im being rather objective. As for you i think youre looking for a sparring partner and im not interested even though my back and forth unfortunately has signaled otherwise. Its ok we have differing opinions. Save yourself the time in responding because I truly cant do anymore arguing semantics its just silly at this point. Take care bub

 

[Deerock71]

GREEN RATS:

 

[Radical_3d]

99.9%

But will have the console like experience

Spoiler: History loves to repeat itself…

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

I hear it'll launch with Gears, Fable, and Perfect Dark and that it'll be called PS6

 

[ComputerBlue]

MCC or new Halo because if it’s new Halo then meh

 

[Justin9mm]

lol

PC/PS5 combo until Sony goes Day 1 PC releases. Likely won't happen as that will kill Playstation hardware like Microsoft did to Xbox.

Won't kill PlayStation Hardware if Sony did that, especially if Xbox console development drops off because there is no real competition. There is still a huge demand for console gaming and there is no other choice. I'm actually scared at the thought of Xbox leaving the console space because that is going to hurt the console space bad, Sony will have even more reason to not compete and they will bleed us dry like they are doing now with their overpriced products. Huge Ego Sony is back after riding high from the PS4 and current success of PS5. I've been a Sony and PlayStation fanboy for over 30 years and I can tell you PlayStation is as anti consumer as it's ever been.

 

[Topher]

honestly bro i appreciate your ability to be combative and play devils advocate on everything but youre exhausting because youre trying to make this a game of mental gymnastics when all i did was make some points that youre either agreeable with or not. Yes maybe im assumptive that the other guy is emotional and you as well but im just basing it off the responses. Seems to come from a charged place when i know for a fact im being rather objective. As for you i think youre looking for a sparring partner and im not interested even though my back and forth unfortunately has signaled otherwise. Its ok we have differing opinions. Save yourself the time in responding because I truly cant do anymore arguing semantics its just silly at this point. Take care bub

Well I tried to redirect the conversation back to whether or not Xbox would be a console but oh well. Now you are just repeating the same take over and over about the emotions of others and how objective you are.

 

[onQ123]

What Xbox gamers?

What would even be the reason to have a Xbox if Microsoft’s biggest titles would come to Playstation day 1? Stick placement on the controller? Lol

Everybody would jump ship. PS or PC.

And then Gamepass would close too because it’ll never come to Playstation and it won’t survive on just PC. The core fanbase are on Xbox, that’s the entry point. Kill Xbox, kill Gamepass.

So nah, let’s be honest here, this is a terrible strategy. And I would say that the first 4 titles that was already released on PS5 was the worst thing that could happen to Xbox. Even as late releases they instantly pop the exclusivity bubble and people start expecting everything to come and start moving away.

PS to PC ports is a similarly destructive strategy but there is still the cost barrier there at least. No matter what DF tries to say there is no $399 PC running PS games as well as PS5 Digital, so even with day 1 Steam releases it wouldn’t completely kill the PS platform.

But with Xbox to PS there is no barrier. Like at all. PS5 Digital is literally cheaper than Xbox Series X and will run everything as good, or better, and there is the Pro path if you want an upgrade, haptic will be better on PS as well.

And I don’t think they’ll do well as a publisher. When there is no first party or Gamepass hype they need to compete only on quality. And are Microsoft’s games good enough for that? Hmmm idk, maybe some, but not enough to keep 20-whatever studios open. Studios would close left and right.

I just wonder who’s to blame for these strategies. Is this new Xbox president Sarah Bond’s doing? It all started shortly after her promotion. Or is she just the fabricated fallguy here? put forward to take the blame when the platform dies while Phil Spencer is quietly pulling the strings from above?

People doing that anyway gamers leaving Xbox isn't because they're releasing games on PlayStation it's actually the other way around, Xbox is releasing games on PlayStation because people are not buying the games on Xbox.

 

[Brucey]

I disagree.

I can see an ultra powerful and handheld device with the ability to load steam as well as that existing library of games would be in a strong position in 2026, if the rumours to align with the GTA 6 launch are true.

Best place to play GTA 6 and Microsoft rides that hype.

If they time it right then there's a good chance for them to get good market penetration again.

I'm pretty sure a PS5 pro at home and a Ps portal will be the definitive mobile solution for GTA 6.

So how about this for a new strategy - honesty and transparency with customers. Then the rumours wont matter.

This is Microsoft. Those not traits that it's fluent in.

 

[REDRZA MWS]

I'm sure every Xbox gamer will love being forced onto PC in order to keep their library. I wont even get into the details of the fact that not every Xbox game supports this feature.

MS windows PC’s have a larger install base than all consoles combined.

 

[Topher]

MS windows PC’s have a larger install base than all consoles combined.

Eh....really doesn't mean anything though since most of those PCs are not gaming PCs. Only way to play games will be to stream. But I seriously do not think Microsoft is just going to abandon the Xbox library to orphaned consoles. I'm still of the opinion that there will be a compatibility layer in their new Xbox PCs, assuming that's the direction they go. Otherwise, Xbox fans are going to riot.

 

[PandaOk]

Won't kill PlayStation Hardware if Sony did that, especially if Xbox console development drops off because there is no real competition. There is still a huge demand for console gaming and there is no other choice. I'm actually scared at the thought of Xbox leaving the console space because that is going to hurt the console space bad, Sony will have even more reason to not compete and they will bleed us dry like they are doing now with their overpriced products. Huge Ego Sony is back after riding high from the PS4 and current success of PS5. I've been a Sony and PlayStation fanboy for over 30 years and I can tell you PlayStation is as anti consumer as it's ever been.

No offence but going day and date is an absolutely suicidal idea unless Sony fully deploys PlayStation onto PC and pulls out of steam. People say ‘oh it won’t be the end of PlayStation’ as if it’s not a stupid ass idea that would destroy their business.

 

[Feel Like I'm On 42]

Won't kill PlayStation Hardware if Sony did that, especially if Xbox console development drops off because there is no real competition. There is still a huge demand for console gaming and there is no other choice. I'm actually scared at the thought of Xbox leaving the console space because that is going to hurt the console space bad, Sony will have even more reason to not compete and they will bleed us dry like they are doing now with their overpriced products. Huge Ego Sony is back after riding high from the PS4 and current success of PS5. I've been a Sony and PlayStation fanboy for over 30 years and I can tell you PlayStation is as anti consumer as it's ever been.

This is the truth

 

[Brucey]

People doing that anyway gamers leaving Xbox isn't because of they're releasing games on PlayStation it's actually the other way around, Xbox is releasing games on PlayStation because people are not buying the games on Xbox.

Ultimately it's good timing for Xbox series owners, they can hop over to PS5 or PS5 pro, certainly the ones that were waiting for a mid gen Xbox series aren't going to wait for 2026 with zero announcements of future consoles.

Remember the timeline last time around.

June 10th 2016: House confirms plans for a PS4 pro (Neo).

Sony officially confirms new 4K-ready PlayStation 4K console

Sony officially confirms the PlayStation 4K, saying it's targeting 'hardcore gamers' and will have full backward and forward compatibility.

www.tweaktown.com

June 13th 2016:
Project Scorpio announced for holiday 2017 launch:

E3 2016: Xbox One Project Scorpio Revealed - IGN

Coming in 2017, Microsoft promises it will be 'the most powerful game console ever made.'

www.ign.com

November 10th 2016
PS4 Pro released.

November 7th 2017
One X released.

If Microsoft had any console hardware in the pipeline they absolutely wouldn't hesitate to announce it super early to fend off a migration to pS5 pro.

 

[Metnut]

If the new XBox is a PC then Sony is going to have some interesting discussions regarding their PC strategy.

 

[plip.plop]

If Microsoft is smart, any online-only multiplayer games will drop day one on everything. This would help create a much larger user base early on which is critical for these games. Single player gets a one-year exclusivity. They should even split up games like COD, Halo, and Gears, separating campaign and multiplayer and selling them separately. I don't do online multiplayer and only play those games for the campaign.

 

[VolticArchangel]

For 2 years?

Or for 1 year, till November 2025, right HeisenbergFX4 ?

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

But will have the console like experience

I can see them using this tagline.

"The Best Console-like Experience"

 

[onQ123]

Ultimately it's good timing for Xbox series owners, they can hop over to PS5 or PS5 pro, certainly the ones that were waiting for a mid gen Xbox series aren't going to wait for 2026 with zero announcements of future consoles.

Remember the timeline last time around.

June 10th 2016: House confirms plans for a PS4 pro (Neo).

Sony officially confirms new 4K-ready PlayStation 4K console

Sony officially confirms the PlayStation 4K, saying it's targeting 'hardcore gamers' and will have full backward and forward compatibility.

www.tweaktown.com

June 13th 2016:
Project Scorpio announced for holiday 2017 launch:

E3 2016: Xbox One Project Scorpio Revealed - IGN

Coming in 2017, Microsoft promises it will be 'the most powerful game console ever made.'

www.ign.com

November 10th 2016
PS4 Pro released.

November 7th 2017
One X released.

If Microsoft had any console hardware in the pipeline they absolutely wouldn't hesitate to announce it super early to fend off a migration to pS5 pro.

But they did announce they was working on the Next Xbox

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Or for 1 year, till November 2025, right HeisenbergFX4 ?

 

[VinnyMac]

Give me that gears goodness

 

[RainblowDash]

Making games be exclusive to one platform doesn't serve any useful purpose anyway.

 

[mayham2199]

MS windows PC’s have a larger install base than all consoles combined.

Hey listen if your logic is that 30 million users are just going to move over to PC gaming like it’s no big deal well what can I say.

I tried pc gaming and I hated it. Something tells me some of that 30 million enjoys the convenience of consoles and won’t be moving to pc.

 

[PandaOk]

Making games be exclusive to one platform doesn't serve any useful purpose anyway.

Tell that to Nintendo

 

[indigoSociety]

Well I tried to redirect the conversation back to whether or not Xbox would be a console but oh well. Now you are just repeating the same take over and over about the emotions of others and how objective you are.

Like i said youre looking for debate and to argue semantics. Uninterested. Shared my opinion and it is what it is. My opinion on Xbox ? Ok. I think theyve been god awful in terms of first party output obviously and attracting people to their ecosystem for a whole console generation and a half at this point but i believe they’re on a positive trajectory based on the summer showcase. They showed a lot of games im personally interested in. The investments theyve made in Bethesda and Activision clearly signal an all in approach. They now have a ton of first party studios at their disposal. Halo ditching the proprietary engine for Ue5 is positive news. Yeah i mean i think a company with the capital of Microsoft is capable of a comeback. Is that a controversial statement ? Wouldnt imagine why. Does it mean it will happen ? No of course not. They have to execute as a company but yeah idk i feel optimistic about Xbox as a platform moving forward which is great because im a fan. Id like to see them produce similiar output as Sony which obviously has been fantastic for the last two console generations and Nintendo who i adore as well. Great gaming moments with all three console makers.

 

[Topher]

My opinion on Xbox ? Ok. I think theyve been god awful in terms of first party output obviously and attracting people to their ecosystem for a whole console generation and a half at this point but i believe they’re on a positive trajectory based on the summer showcase. They showed a lot of games im personally interested in. The investments theyve made in Bethesda and Activision clearly signal an all in approach. They now have a ton of first party studios at their disposal. Halo ditching the proprietary engine for Ue5 is positive news. Yeah i mean i think a company with the capital of Microsoft is capable of a comeback. Is that a controversial statement ? Wouldnt imagine why. Does it mean it will happen ? No of course not. They have to execute as a company but yeah idk i feel optimistic about Xbox as a platform moving forward which is great because im a fan. Id like to seem them produce similiar output as Sony which obviously has been fantastic for the last two console generations and Nintendo who i adore as well. Great gaming moments with all three console makers.

I'd like to see a revitalized Xbox myself. Just isn't good to have one dominant company in space like video game consoles. Agree with you that the summer showcase was change in the right direction. I don't think MS is going to invest in consoles any longer, as I said, but I really would be happy to be wrong about that if they can come with a viable strategy. But I think Xbox is shifting more and more into a third party publisher and will leverage PC on the hardware side. Still no idea what that will entail, but I'm hoping for a handheld which Phil Spencer has talked about. I'm guessing it will be next year at the earliest that we hear anything more on that front.

 

[EN250]

I don't think people can be surprised at this point, MS loves money and going multiplatform will make them more

And tbh Sony is doing the same little by little, even though the novelty wore off pretty quick, so they might want to release on PC simultaneously at the detriment of console sales, but whatever, they chose their poison, it was either that or budget their production costs

 

[indigoSociety]

I'd like to see a revitalized Xbox myself. Just isn't good to have one dominant company in space like video game consoles. Agree with you that the summer showcase was change in the right direction. I don't think MS is going to invest in consoles any longer, as I said, but I really would be happy to be wrong about that if they can come with a viable strategy. But I think Xbox is shifting more and more into a third party publisher and will leverage PC on the hardware side. Still no idea what that will entail, but I'm hoping for a handheld which Phil Spencer has talked about. I'm guessing it will be next year at the earliest that we hear anything more on that front.

To align hypothetically with your thinking i would say at the least they’ve announced a new generation of Xbox since you want to nitpick Sarah Bond not specifically saying console. So a new generation has been confirmed which at the very least means a new platform whether its physical dedicated hardware or not. Now i can tell you ive read articles of AMD securing a contract to produce chips for Sony’s Ps6 and Intel for the new Xbox. I will try to cite that source when i get a chance and also rumors of a hybrid half cloud/ai and dedicated hardware for this next generation Xbox platform which ill also find too. So to further theorize with your thought process in mind why would they hint at a handheld which will obviously be physical hardware but not a console ? If its just game pass as an app that already exists and Phil was asked by Ign theoretically would it be more like Ps Portal or a dedicated hardware and he said the latter. And why this major push for first party software but flagship titles on PS day and date of launch ? Starfield, which isnt even close in terms of magnitude/impact or significance of a Halo or Gears , and thats still not ported to Ps5 but foundational Xbox franchises will now be Day 1 on Playstation ignoring at the very least theyve announced a next generation platform which theyd obviously want people to invest in that ecosystem so lets take away two major factors on why they would do that. Dont add up. And this inevitable switch to third party you think they are making Sega esque. Why would they not just announce Perfect Dark Fable and all these other titles theyve announced for Ps5 already ? Yeahhhhh i dont see it brother but to each their own https://www.theverge.com/2023/9/19/23880138/microsoft-xbox-2028-hybrid-cloud-games-platform this is information leaked during the activision ftc trial which stated aspirations of a hybrid console revealed through email exchanges of xbox executives

https://icon-era.com/threads/window...s-a-traditional-console-and-a-handheld.14168/


Link to the Windows central article inside this forum

And the Intel winning the contract bid for the chip is wrong it is AMD that won both bids for Ps6/Nextbox. Google it and you will find the article. Limited on time i have kids lol

 

[T-0800]

If Microsoft is smart..

 

[Fess]

People doing that anyway gamers leaving Xbox isn't because they're releasing games on PlayStation it's actually the other way around, Xbox is releasing games on PlayStation because people are not buying the games on Xbox.

It’s because of Gamepass. I would’ve bought lots of games if there was no other way. But I obviously ain’t buying something where I already see an install and play button.

There are no official numbers but let’s say 15 million Xbox owners subscribe to Gamepass, maybe 10 on Ultimate, then we can assume that the core gamers there that usually play stuff day 1 are playing everything through Gamepass.
That’s a big loss of game purchases.

Previously it was said that the service was sustainable but we can assume it isn’t unless it grows going by their actions. It’s just a failed strategy at this point.

And now they’re removing day 1 releases from some tiers to push people up to Ultimate, for more money, plus increasing the cost. Trying to catch a falling knife.

But it’s too late now, all they do now is pushing the fans they have away. A platform can’t grow from becoming worse.

Instead of popping the exclusivity bubble and do Playstation ports they could’ve paid big money for more big Gamepass releases. Do Gamepass exclusives. Essentially turn Gamepass into the platform. Even if that’s expensive, because publishers don’t want to miss out on game purchase money, it’ll still be cheaper than the death of the platform and service which is what we’re seeing happen now from their dumb actions.

 

[Topher]

To align hypothetically with your thinking i would say at the least they’ve announced a new generation of Xbox since you want to nitpick Sarah Bond not specifically saying console. So a new generation has been confirmed which at the very least means a new platform whether its physical dedicated hardware or not. Now i can tell you ive read articles of AMD securing a contract to produce chips for Sony’s Ps6 and Intel for the new Xbox. I will try to cite that source when i get a chance and also rumors of a hybrid half cloud/ai and dedicated hardware for this next generation Xbox platform which ill also find too. So to further theorize with your thought process in mind why would they hint at a handheld which will obviously be physical hardware but not a console ? If its just game pass as an app that already exists and Phil was asked by Ign theoretically would it be more like Ps Portal or a dedicated hardware and he said the latter. And why this major push for first party software but flagship titles on PS day and date of launch ? Starfield, which isnt even close in terms of magnitude/impact or significance of a Halo or Gears , and thats still not ported to Ps5 but foundational Xbox franchises will now be Day 1 on Playstation ignoring at the very least theyve announced a next generation platform which theyd obviously want people to invest in that ecosystem so lets take away two major factors on why they would do that. Dont add up. And this inevitable switch to third party you think they are making Sega esque. Why would they not just announce Perfect Dark Fable and all these other titles theyve announced for Ps5 already ? Yeahhhhh i dont see it brother but to each their own

You can keep saying I'm "nitpicking" Sarah Bond but I'm really not because it isn't just Sarah Bond. Every time the round of hardware is mentioned Xbox executives never reference "consoles". To be clear, I'm not saying that is proof of anything. Just an observation. My guess is the next Xbox will be a hybrid PC with some console functionality for including the existing Xbox library of games. That's a wild idea, granted, but Microsoft can't just go forward with subsidizing traditional consoles. Yeah, it will definitely be physical hardware, but it will also be expensive. Phil Spencer talked about a handheld that sounds exactly like existing PC handhelds on the market. If a PC handheld, why not an Xbox PC?

I'm not suggesting the move to third party is going to be quick. Certainly not "Sega esgue", but much more gradual. Very well could just be for games moving forward at some point even though rumors of past games persist. Microsoft is only giving out tidbits of info at at time so it is anyone's guess.

 

[ZehDon]

I'd like to see a revitalized Xbox myself. Just isn't good to have one dominant company in space like video game consoles. Agree with you that the summer showcase was change in the right direction. I don't think MS is going to invest in consoles any longer, as I said, but I really would be happy to be wrong about that if they can come with a viable strategy. But I think Xbox is shifting more and more into a third party publisher and will leverage PC on the hardware side. Still no idea what that will entail, but I'm hoping for a handheld which Phil Spencer has talked about. I'm guessing it will be next year at the earliest that we hear anything more on that front.

Everything I've seen says they're throwing out the rule book, so hard to know. For example, Microsoft has a history with The Video Game Awards - the XSX was announced during the show, for example. So, they might give us something when that lands later this year. If they're planning to position their machines as next gen consoles, as opposed to distancing themselves from consoles altogether, I imagine they wouldn't want to let the PS5 Pro run unchecked without something to keep the faithful in waiting mode.

 

[Topher]

Everything I've seen says they're throwing out the rule book, so hard to know. For example, Microsoft has a history with The Video Game Awards - the XSX was announced during the show, for example. So, they might give us something when that lands later this year. If they're planning to position their machines as next gen consoles, as opposed to distancing themselves from consoles altogether, I imagine they wouldn't want to let the PS5 Pro run unchecked without something to keep the faithful in waiting mode.

Yep. The current rule book ain't working, is it? They gotta rethink their strategy with this. Announcement at this year's VGAs? Wow.....that would be a surprise. It would have to be something that sits alongside Xbox Series rather than replace it at this point, I would think. Like......a handheld?

 

[Fess]

If they're planning to position their machines as next gen consoles, as opposed to distancing themselves from consoles altogether, I imagine they wouldn't want to let the PS5 Pro run unchecked without something to keep the faithful in waiting mode.

It’s too late for that, people has been preordering PS5 Pro left and right, as have I, and I assume most here. If they wanted to disrupt the Pro launch they should’ve done it right after the first Cerny video. Before you could preorder. Could’ve posted a simple picture on X saying something like ”Real Next Generation is coming”. Could’ve at least hinted about the next Xbox when showing off Halo on UE5.
But they did nothing.

 

[ZehDon]

Yep. The current rule book ain't working, is it? They gotta rethink their strategy with this. Announcement at this year's VGAs? Wow.....that would be a surprise. It would have to be something that sits alongside Xbox Series rather than replace it at this point, I would think. Like......a handheld?

I'm not sure it would be a full blown announcement, which would be amazing, but I'd expect something more akin to Project Scorpio stuff, where they state point blank: next gen is coming next year, get ready.

It’s too late for that, people has been preordering PS5 Pro left and right, as have I, and I assume most here. If they wanted to disrupt the Pro launch they should’ve done it right after the first Cerny video. Before you could preorder. Could’ve posted a simple picture on X saying something like ”Real Next Generation is coming”. Could’ve at least hinted about the next Xbox when showing off Halo on UE5.
But they did nothing.

I don't think they care about disrupting the PS5 Pro's launch specifically, so much as they're interested in cutting this entire generation short. Letting the PS5 Pro run unchecked means PlayStation controls the narrative. We're seeing this already where PC die hards like DF are positing that the Pro might be the best place to play because it avoids PC stutter. It'll only get worse once the game comparisons come in. If they let Sony run away with the conversation unchecked, it just builds mindshare and makes it all the harder for them to re-enter the conversation later.

 

[indigoSociety]

You can keep saying I'm "nitpicking" Sarah Bond but I'm really not because it isn't just Sarah Bond. Every time the round of hardware is mentioned Xbox executives never reference "consoles". To be clear, I'm not saying that is proof of anything. Just an observation. My guess is the next Xbox will be a hybrid PC with some console functionality for including the existing Xbox library of games. That's a wild idea, granted, but Microsoft can't just go forward with subsidizing traditional consoles. Yeah, it will definitely be physical hardware, but it will also be expensive. Phil Spencer talked about a handheld that sounds exactly like existing PC handhelds on the market. If a PC handheld, why not an Xbox PC?

I'm not suggesting the move to third party is going to be quick. Certainly not "Sega esgue", but much more gradual. Very well could just be for games moving forward at some point even though rumors of past games persist. Microsoft is only giving out tidbits of info at at time so it is anyone's guess.

Honestly i think youre overthinking this. I believe firmly we will get at least one more traditional console generation before theres any sort of drastic shift. An Xbox PC ? So is the suggestion they will make an enthusiast platform that is unaffordable for mass market consumption ? If thats what youre saying i really dont see that either. Maybe as an option but something tells me after the Series S debacle they will have one unit with the only difference being a digital/disc drive option. But hey who knows I think Xbox is going to surprise people. Ive seen a lot of savvy moves from them as of late and people are rightfully cynical and dismissive because of recent history but hey who doesnt like a good comeback story ?

 

[Daniel_Mallorca1985]

From what Extasis says by its sources and blah blah, the issue of Project Latitude has been relaxed, that the rush to release games in Play is still underway but that it will be taken more calmly than initially expected in the face of the bad reception that there was with Indiana Jones (what did they expect xd).

And that Halo and Gears, to this day are NOT contemplated to be released in Play.

 

[Brucey]

I don't think people can be surprised at this point, MS loves money and going multiplatform will make them more

And tbh Sony is doing the same little by little, even though the novelty wore off pretty quick, so they might want to release on PC simultaneously at the detriment of console sales, but whatever, they chose their poison, it was either that or budget their production costs

The Sony 1st party titles they have gone to PC after some time seem not to sell anywhere near as much as what say 60 million PS5 owners are buying.

 

[angelgs90]

Flight Simulator 2024 would be incredible on PS5 Pro.

 

[Duchess]

It's so weird to think that just a few years ago we all thought that MS buying ABK would be the end of PlayStation, and yet the platform that is being killed off is Xbox.

 

[awwr999999]

I have no doubt about that. I really don't know what Xbox will be in a few years.

Rolled into Windows with a free update that turns every Xbox into a gaming PC.
Gates never meant for Xbox to be a permanent fixture in the console world.

Xbox can keep them all
They all look a bit shit.

Odd that Sony's going to give MS a place to sell their games (and buy them time) when blocking MS-owned studios would cause real damage.
MS games will erode the PS while building up PC by virtue of getting better screenshots and gameplay footage from the PC 100% of the time.

I can see an ultra powerful and handheld device with the ability to load steam as well as that existing library of games would be in a strong position in 2026, if the rumours to align with the GTA 6 launch are true.
Best place to play GTA 6 and Microsoft rides that hype.

GTA 6's built around the DualSense and in all likelihood it'll end up being the best selling PS5 game. If it's not an outright PS exclusive it'll be a timed PS exclusive like PS2's GTA SA.
Either way, playing GTA 6 without DualSense won't be the best way to play it.

 

[Fess]

the rush to release games in Play is still underway but that it will be taken more calmly than initially expected in the face of the bad reception that there was with Indiana Jones (what did they expect xd).

What happened with Indiana Jones? Late port next year, what’s the problem there?