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Rumor: PS5/PS5 PRO Versions in Development For: Fable, Gears E:Day, Perfect Dark, Avowed, Blade, Halo
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HeWhoWalks
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I never thought that silliness.
I always thought it was a bad idea for the industry as a whole, but it looks like it was just another net negative for Xbox hardware. It’s going to be a huge plus for Microsoft, though!
Wasn't it initially targeted to be a permanent "console exclusive" release with PC and series consoles?
Releasing on December 9th 2024. The PS5 release then announced at the very end of the show for Spring 2025.
Punished Miku
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Not me. That was repeated by idiots or liars. Turns out they were all nearly exactly wrong about all of it. A few people explained why that was wrong from the very beginning, but they were ignored. People should really go back and read some of the claims describing what others thought was going to happen. Most people on here could hardly even tolerate someone politely explaining what was coming without freaking out and getting in fights over it and attacking people about it. They were that sure, and were 100% wrong about it. This wasn't very long ago.
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I guess we'll have to agree to disagree that what Sarah Bond said was actually an "announcement of a new generation"
What did she actually say(type) in her internal email to her employees after she was promoted to Xbox president?
"It’s been nearly six months since we came together as an organization. Our collective achievements in that timeframe are tremendous. Everyone should feel incredibly proud of what we’ve achieved and excited about the opportunities ahead, We are moving full speed ahead on our next generation hardware, focused on delivering the biggest technological leap ever in a generation."
Absolutely scraping the bottom of the barrel thinking that equates to ok Xbox next gen is announced!
Keep in mind that what she says publically could be used by shareholders against her later. If she said in public, yeah new generation starts now....and nothing is produced...there could be repurcussions from the SEC. This wasn't a public announcement. It was an internal email communication where SEC doesn't get involved.
Also, we know that the new "Sebile" controller with haptics (which potentially could have given series at least the possibility of similar controller immersion as the PS5 for gta6) was not approved by Satya. He didn't approve the spending for a new controller, but he's ok with another bunch of billions being spent for another console generation? Just doesn't make sense.
indigoSociety
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“we are moving full speed ahead on our next generation hardware” Lol are you guys ok ? Actually concerned at this pointI guess we'll have to agree to disagree that what Sarah Bond said was actually an "announcement of a new generation"
What did she actually say(type) in her internal email to her employees after she was promoted to Xbox president?
"It’s been nearly six months since we came together as an organization. Our collective achievements in that timeframe are tremendous. Everyone should feel incredibly proud of what we’ve achieved and excited about the opportunities ahead, We are moving full speed ahead on our next generation hardware, focused on delivering the biggest technological leap ever in a generation."
Absolutely scraping the bottom of the barrel thinking that equates to ok Xbox next gen is announced!
Keep in mind that what she says publically could be used by shareholders against her later. If she said in public, yeah new generation starts now....and nothing is produced...there could be repurcussions from the SEC. This wasn't a public announcement. It was an internal email communication where SEC doesn't get involved.
Also, we know that the new "Sebile" controller with haptics (which potentially could have given series at least the possibility of similar controller immersion as the PS5 for gta6) was not approved by Satya. He didn't approve the spending for a new controller, but he's ok with another bunch of billions being spent for another console generation? Just doesn't make sense.
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
Oh FFS people are trying to tell you that hardware=/= console and guys he is trying to tell that even though it is saying hardware and not console, it is still highly probably that it is a console can we move on now ?“we are moving full speed ahead on our next generation hardware” Lol are you guys ok ? Actually concerned at this point
You have to understand that in the context of being sent to employees during mass layoffs at Xbox.“we are moving full speed ahead on our next generation hardware” Lol are you guys ok ? Actually concerned at this point
So obviously she's not going to say: Thanks everyone we are wrapping things up and shutting her down. She's trying to get them motivated. A little pep cheer rally.
If you can't understand the difference between an internal company email rallying the troops and a public announcement I don't know what to tell you.
The fact is Xbox series sales have cratered, and there was no way they could justify a mid gen series z. They couldn't even justify an updated controller. Just not enough people have found the series offerings to deliver value over the competition.
If they proceed down the Surface route they'll end up in the $1000+ range which is very niche for the average series owner who may have "jumped in" as low as $150 in March 2023 if they were a Verizon wireless customer.
Will Satya be satisfied with a surface console that sells less than 5 million? He'll never greenlight such a thing. Sarah Bond and her team can continue to chug away.
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indigoSociety
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Theyre making another console lol
Lol thank you. Trust me im with your thinking in this lol i think these people are exhausting with their arguing of semantics. I think its safe to assume another traditional console is coming from Xbox but they are hellbent on convincing themselves and others otherwise. Im honestly ashamed i keep going back and forth about this
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Topher
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Honestly i think youre overthinking this. I believe firmly we will get at least one more traditional console generation before theres any sort of drastic shift. An Xbox PC ? So is the suggestion they will make an enthusiast platform that is unaffordable for mass market consumption ? If thats what youre saying i really dont see that either. Maybe as an option but something tells me after the Series S debacle they will have one unit with the only difference being a digital/disc drive option. But hey who knowsI think Xbox is going to surprise people. Ive seen a lot of savvy moves from them as of late and people are rightfully cynical and dismissive because of recent history but hey who doesnt like a good comeback story ?
I'm speculating man. It's ok. If Microsoft really is doubling down on consoles next gen then the ports to PlayStation make even less sense. As does creating a new tier for consoles in Game Pass that doesn't have day one games. Same for having Firestick promotions that say "no console required". I mean....the evidence is there and none of it seems to be in favor of Xbox consoles. Again, I'm not suggesting it is a done deal, but I from my personal perspective, I can't see Microsoft continuing down the road of subsidizing consoles any longer.
indigoSociety
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Topher
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indigoSociety
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i think youre wasting your time trying to convince yourself and me that a new xbox console is still tentative and instead you need to go figure out advanced propulsion for our military because your mental gymnastics are gold medal impressive
Topher
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i think youre wasting your time trying to convince yourself and me that a new xbox console is still tentative and instead you need to go figure out advanced propulsion for our military because your mental gymnastics are gold medal impressive
Nah....I made it abundantly clear that I'm speculating. I'll have no issues saying I'm wrong if I'm wrong. Don't take it so seriously.
Sethbacca
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Solid idea if MS are throwing in the towel anyway. This would be as good a time as any to release some of their classic hits in the form of remasters and sell to the PS and Nintendo crowd if they're going 3rd party anyway. It's easy money they're leaving on the table if they dont.
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
i think youre wasting your time trying to convince yourself and me that a new xbox console is still tentative and instead you need to go figure out advanced propulsion for our military because your mental gymnastics are gold medal impressive
Alright ...You guys may not realize it but you are talking aboiut slightly different thing and splitting hairs about it.
1.One is saying that a new hardware is coming whixh I agree with, I do think it'll be a hybrid but that is semantic since the steam deck that is by and large a portable pc offers a console-like experience.
2.The other by saying that since it is called a hardware and not a console it implies thing as for what it is I.E hybrid and that shows a global direction in MS strategy .Some thing in the line of a toned down hardware branch(not in term of power but expected sales) and that a console builder reducing its hardware branch is a sign that they are headed more toward 3rd party publisher.
Either way both takes are valid just that one concentrate on implication and the other of the direct future.
I think that n.2 seems like a very plausible scenario conidering ms latest decision as well as what S SneakersSO and
HeisenbergFX4
have been saying, even though they have some specific differences in their info, they seems to agree on the global direction MS is heading toward.
mrqs
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Yeah I think the same. They'll have to do a deep change on xCloud tho for this to happen. Curious to see how they handle it.
Topher
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Alright ...You guys may not realize it but you are talking aboiut slightly different thing and splitting hairs about it.
1.One is saying that a new hardware is coming whixh I agree with, I do think it'll be a hybrid but that is semantic since the steam deck that is by and large a portable pc offers a console-like experience.
2.The other by saying that since it is called a hardware and not a console it implies thing as for what it is I.E hybrid and that shows a global direction in MS strategy .Some thing in the line of a toned down hardware branch(not in term of power but expected sales) and that a console builder reducing its hardware branch is a sign that they are headed more toward 3rd party publisher.
Either way both takes are valid just that one concentrate on implication and the other of the direct future.
I think that n.2 seems like a very plausible scenario conidering ms latest decision as well as what S SneakersSO and
Think most posting here agree that new hardware is coming. I've stated numerous times that it could be a traditional console and I could have it all wrong. But yes, a lot of what I'm speculating on is based on discussions I've had with
HeisenbergFX4
going back months. The hybrid approach makes the most sense to me as well and I don't think it is as outlandish as indigo suggests. Particularly when I read this directly from Phil Spencer:Spencer mentioned his frustrations with closed ecosystems, so we asked for clarity. Could he really see a future where stores like Itch.io and Epic Games Store existed on Xbox? Was it just a matter of figuring out mountains of paperwork to get there?
“Yes,” said Spencer. “[Consider] our history as the Windows company. Nobody would blink twice if I said, ‘Hey, when you’re using a PC, you get to decide the type of experience you have [by picking where to buy games]. There’s real value in that.” Spencer believes console players would benefit from that freedom too — and so would console makers like Microsoft.
Phil Spencer wants Epic Games Store and others on Xbox consoles
More stores mean more sales!
www.polygon.com
noob smokes
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So the nextbox is a ps6
King Dazzar
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I just wonder what they do for a Series S replacement. Initially I thought the handheld may cover that. But handhelds can be pretty pricey... unless they do a Mattrick moment and say we have Fire TV App for our Series S owners. So I get the expensive hybrid option for hardcore/XSX, but I dont understand how they keep the lower priced/less tech enthusiast customers.
PurePlatinum
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No surprise - I think their 3rd party test with those first four games went WAY better than they expected, and Satya laid down the hammer.
Topher
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Which leakers claimed that?
Edit: Oh....found this:
Rumor - Starfield will be announced for PS5 with a release between November and December 2024. The 2025 plan is even bigger, featuring well-establis
a rumor but he seems reliable, GOT on february 27th before anyone else
Is that it? Doesn't look like that guy is even on twitter any more.
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Sw0pDiller
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The only franchise i would like on ps5 is gears of war. Maybe a cheap halo collection. The rest is old News and none Will live up to the old games and hype.
Fess
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Was there extreme anger about the announcement? or has wishlisting/preordering not picked up as planned? What’s the core reason they would pause the ports strategy?
Topher
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Xbox fans were pissed about it. Especially how they did it.
Fess
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Ah yeah announcing the PS5 port before the game was even out on Xbox was not popular.
I guess they wanted to see if exclusivity-based negativity would decrease if a port is known ahead of the release.
Topher
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Think what really stuck in everyone's craw was the "one more thing" aspect. They treated the PS5 port like Steve Jobs used to do with his big announcements at the end of a show. It could have easily been a blog post on Xbox news. So yeah.....could be MS was testing the waters, but I kind of think they believe they had already laid the ground work for this kind of announcement and felt it would go over smoother as a result. Misread their fanbase heavily. There will be no easy way to do this for Xbox and I don't think Phil Spencer has the luxury of pulling the plug on "project latitude", but he can probably give it some more time for things to sink in before making anymore announcements. Either way, Phil Spencer and co. needs to be smarter about how they approach these PS5 port announcements in the future.
DeepEnigma
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Wrong game (licensed IP) to get so upset over, really. Indiana Jones, Disney owned, come on now. As if all party's involved after crunching the numbers would want to send it out to make insufficient revenue and profit.
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Topher
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True, but this was after it was revealed in the FTC hearings that Microsoft negotiated a deal to make Indy a console exclusive. Interesting how much has drastically changed since the ABK acquisition went through.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Their software sales have been drastically dropping since then and the empty promise of Game Pass growth stay stagnant since as well. Not to mention, once the funds were released and the deal closed, your board of directors are going to want financial results to kick into gear. A lot has happened to them since the original deal up until the revisited change.
They just need to rip the band-aide off completely as you mentioned before, and go all in. The fanbase needs to stop being so radicalized with the war chest mentality and accept it.
BadBreathOfTheWild
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I remember reading some interview on PS5 development around release, and the work on PS5 basically began immediately after PS4, if not even before public release of it. It wasn’t started after PS4 Pro, which was basically a side-project.
Shortly after release of PS4 there was a post-mortem of it, to see what was done well and they were happy with, what could’ve been done better, and what direction to go in next. Before then starting on it.
So this internal message from Microsoft just suggests next-gen is coming, but not necessarily that it’s any time soon. But that it’s coming and sounds like a TV connected beast is a relief.
If the purpose of PS4 Pro was to sell a premium product to 4K TV owners, then PS5 Pro is perhaps to again sell a premium product in preparation for PS6 and specifically for maturing and establishing PSSR. So that users know what it is and what it means in real terms, and so third party developers implement it and get ready for it for day one.
Without that prelude and soft launch the “Road to PS6” sermon by Cerny would be talking about a potential technology we’d not see right away outside of some first-party launch stuff, meaning early games wouldn’t be taking advantage of something transformative as far as performance goes.
Topher
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Yeah....I agree. Stop the bullshit and just say this is how it will be going forward. Just doubt that's what Spencer will do. He has invested so much in his "nice guy" image and is trying to slow-roll his way to being a third party publisher.
Bobby Kotick would have made the tough choices already.
Fess
Member
They’re just lost. And tbh there is no way to end up on a positive note on this, if they want to not upset the fanbase they basically have to stop doing these ports alltogether. But they want/need the money so here we are.
Geometric-Crusher
"Nintendo games are like indies, and worth at most $19" 🤡
Give me Gears and Halo on Playstation
pasterpl
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You understand there are more gaming platforms outside PlayStation. Actually number one hardware in gaming category is mobile, and we already know that they(MS) will be properly launching on iOS after Epic vs CX Apple ruling, we have got gamepass on Samsung TV, now recently on Amazon Fire Stick, it is giving trias with almost every OEM windows PC being sold. And finally we have seen some games like Minecraft, HiFi Rush, CoD, Doom Dark Ages, Pentiment, Sea Of thieves already on or announced realising on other consoles (shit forgot Indy - which was probably best for Disney and MS to generate the highest growth). Stalker 2 might realise on PS5 as well, but I think this more with dev a not some agreement with `MS, as with situation in their country they might struggle with proper port at this time.
Xbox leaders didn't lie for once. So in that case give me MCC on Playstation
Just to be clear, I don’t have any doubts that we will see more MS games on other consoles, that’s give, especially with GaaS titles where big engamnet numbers are key to survival, I wouldn’t say that eg. Concord would benefit from day 1 Xbox release, but likes of helldivers 2 would probably have gained at least couple 100s of thousands of people, but to fully benefit form GaaS you need to make it F2P and have a proper MTX strategy. I can see any MP and GaaS games and games that are heavily focused on MTX as well big IPs in gaming (eg. Doom, StarCraft, the next TES etc.) as well as some "experimental" games be released on all capable consoles day 1, everyone likes to make money
Until there is a dedicated Xbox hardware I don’t see them making ALL of their games available on other consoles.
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diffusionx
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Xbox can keep Starfield
demigod
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Loboxxx
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The performance of Call of Duty will be the turning point that determines whether Microsoft shifts towards a multiplatform business model or not.
- Lots of sales on PS5 = "Phil, we’re going multiplatform."
- Plenty of Game Pass subscribers for over three months = "Phil, we’re sticking with exclusives, great work!"
- Lots of sales on PS5, low Xbox sales, and new subscribers cancel after a month = "Phil, get Halo, Project Gotham Racing, Gears, Blue Dragon, and everything you’ve got on PlayStation, Nintendo, and Sega out there now!"
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