Boy Wander
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You've made 4 posts since 2014 and this is one of them. Fuck me.
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Rumor: Switch developer information leaked. Reveals A TON incl. hardware specs
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You've made 4 posts since 2014 and this is one of them. Fuck me.
lolol
There's nothing in the discussion talking about this.
People were hoping for a high end tablet with the latest tech. For example when Emily Rogers said things like "Xbox one is stretching it a tiny bit" it didnt exactly temper expectations, and other leaks said pascal which implies a 16nm process node. So when we hear its basically a X1 from 2015 thats naturally a bit disappointing.
Before you jump at me, I know its not 100% confirmed that is indeed what is in the final units, but Imo thats most likely.
Before you jump at me, I know its not 100% confirmed that is indeed what is in the final units, but Imo thats most likely.
Utter tosh
The hardware specs don't tell us much we don't already know (and predate the Eurogamer leaks, in any case), but it's interesting to hear about some of the OS features.
In particular, I'm a little disappointed to hear that save data isn't automatically synced to the cloud, given Nintendo's mobile games already do this pretty seamlessly. I suppose the "data store" feature would allow it on a game-by-game basis, but it would be nice if the OS handled it automatically for every game rather than having to worry about whether the developer has decided to implement it or not.
In particular, I'm a little disappointed to hear that save data isn't automatically synced to the cloud, given Nintendo's mobile games already do this pretty seamlessly. I suppose the "data store" feature would allow it on a game-by-game basis, but it would be nice if the OS handled it automatically for every game rather than having to worry about whether the developer has decided to implement it or not.
Herb Alpert
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This is getting boring at this point. I see Juniors won't raise the level...
Can't you wait a little before jumping to your comfortable narrative?
Who cares? Like honestly how is this a interesting or meaningful comparison?
Retromelon
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I hate the logo, bezel, and joycons. It looks so cheap and generic, like an off brand android tablet. And the switch logo looks ugly as sin too. Still buying one, but damn is this an unappealing piece of tech.
Subjective, of course. No need to quote and say "i love it, it looks great"
Spyder_Monkey
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I mean good for you but the comparison doesn't work even on a spec level because both devices are fundamentally different. You don't compare a workstation to a consumer grade PC.
This, the bolded, is true. I mean every phone and its dog houses quite a powerful SD820 these days and some of these can be had for under $300.
And i did not say they, sony and MS, would have come up with something different on a whim but rather i speculated that they would at least have tried.
The real disappointment, and this is my own, comes from the fact that it appears as though nintendo were given the bog standard X1 SoC and told "take it and go". No customization to meet there specific needs whatsoever.
The performance benchmarks are somewhat different to what the specs show and tilt more towards the A9 vistory in most of them. Much like Nvidia (gaming) flops often outperform AMD (gaming) flops. Also, you're comparing the A8 there
The Futurist
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It depends on use cases.
A portable console does't fit into my life, except when I'm travelling. Even then, I just want to be rested to deal with clients on the other side.
All my gaming is done at home, so I would love a powerful Nintendo console with Nintendo games that I play in the same way I play my other consoles and PC.
That being said, I'm still buying it, but more because I like having every gaming device. Even though I know it will sit for months gathering dust after I play Zelda.
MrPressStart
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I once heard that there was more tech. in the playstation 1 than in the Apollo rockets. Not sure if that is true or not, but I remember seeing that somewhere.
I just think it is silly to try and compare a cell phone to a game console. They are 2 completely different things.
I just think it is silly to try and compare a cell phone to a game console. They are 2 completely different things.
IceDoesntHelp
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sick post bro.
Yeah, because you need a $800 phone to beat these underwhelming specs.
Based on the DF-specs there are endless cheap China-Phones with a higher peak cpu-power and many with a higher peak in gpu-power compared to the undocked mode.
I care, and it clarifies whether the Switch is truly cutting edge or is it another case of "it's the best what you can get for $300". So yes it is interesting to me and it is meaningful.
I take it your answer is no then, that's all I wanted to hear.
Lol and how much of that POWER is available for games? Please do enlighten us
I agree to an extent, it doesn't look amazing, like at all. Remove the joycons and generic would be the best description.
But in terms of Nintendo hardware the switch looks great. The gamepad looked even worse in my opinion and looks really dated.
Nintendo have done ok for them, but I don't think they've set the bar high in terms of hardware appeal and desire.
But you like millions of other people (even if it's not 60 million people) are buying this thing for the software, and the experience Nintendo provide.
Peak means fuck all. Switch isn't going to throttle and have performance suffer after two minutes of playing.
Astral Dog
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uh,too early to say this,im sure Nvidia worked out something customized for Nintendo thats how they roll.its not literally a standard X1 even if its based on that.
Emphasis on peak. A gaming device is designed to run at peak performance 100% of the time. A smartphone is designed to load an app really fast, then go back to low usage.
Then how's this for you: no other device in the world in 2017 will be able to run botw better than the Nintendo switch because botw won't be release on anything but Nintendo consoles.
It very much depends on the technology and developer. The Switch won't get those games for business reasons though.
interesting, which cheap "china-phones" in particular?
Astral Dog
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Yeah but we should have known that the moment it was revealed to be portable and use game cartridges
ErrorMacro
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Though Cynar's argument on the first place is also absurd. The Pixel is more than twice the Switch's price. If the Switch costed $600, it would probably be a monster of a gaming decide, since it would not be required to focus on multiple general purpose applications running at the same time.
Any comparison of the Switch with other Mobile devices such as tablets or phones is like comparing apples to oranges. The focus of each device is completely different, and the only thing they have in common is being mobile.
TwilightPrincess
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You can't compare the gflops 1:1, Maxwell is much better than the architecture used in the Wii U and more modern. Switch has 3,25gb ram, Wii U has 1 (both for games).
Compare the games when they are finished. I don't believe that Mario Odyssey would look like it looks on Wii U and it's not finished.
Spiral Insanity
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Nah, that shiny plastic needs to die. It looks so cheap and will scratch really easily. They made the right decision going matte.
If this is your opinion of the Switch, I'd love to hear your thoughts on the abysmal, dollar store level hardware design of the Wii-u and original 3DS.
TwilightPrincess
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It will get some of these games if Switch is a success.
MrPressStart
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So lets look at it differently...
1) IF you want to communicate with someone via email, text or phone call... you buy a phone. Games, GPS and taking pictures are all things the phone can do.
2) IF you want a console or a portable you will not buy a phone because you want something that can play games with traditional control methods. You want complete packaged games... not micro transaction games that are created to try and trick you into dropping more money on the product. You want something that focuses on playing games.
The 2 (Switch/ phone) are just not comparable. Specs done mean shit when there is resource sharing going on.
1) IF you want to communicate with someone via email, text or phone call... you buy a phone. Games, GPS and taking pictures are all things the phone can do.
2) IF you want a console or a portable you will not buy a phone because you want something that can play games with traditional control methods. You want complete packaged games... not micro transaction games that are created to try and trick you into dropping more money on the product. You want something that focuses on playing games.
The 2 (Switch/ phone) are just not comparable. Specs done mean shit when there is resource sharing going on.
Spyder_Monkey
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If you really want me to answer your "Can Zelda run on the Pixel?" the answer is no and you knew that answer to begin with.
Not good enough. Because the exclusivity in this case is not tech restricted as much as it is legal/business wise.
If I knew the answer I wouldn't still be here. I was honestly asking because no one wanted to give a straight answer.
Yeah, a few maybe. Activision would be willing to port COD if Switch sells really well and software does well.
The Futurist
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Obviously.
Why do you think they've been so proud to show off Skyrim.
A 6 year old game that will look and run worse on Switch than it currently does on Xbox and PS4.
I think people just need to have their expectations in check. This thing is not powerful any way you look at it. No modern game will run on it, and if it does, it will be crippled compared to other console versions.
Not sure why the idea that a Nintendo console being so under powered that multiplatform third party is absent is so crazy. It's been happening for over 10 years at this point.
Pancakes R Us
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Wasn't this the consensus already? Don't think we need any new info to tell us this.
They shouldn't be, it's a false equivalency. Not only that, but as has been pointed out, the Tegra X1 is no slouch when compared to the A Series SoCs.
Take a look at the battery specs too, because the Switch has a bigger battery, but runs for a fraction of the time, and generates more heat. iPhone 7 comes with a 1960mAh battery, compared to Switch's 4310mAh. iPhone also comes with a base storage amount of 32GB (which is only the 7, prior models started with 16GB and those were the most popular models at $700). RAM is also an issue there. There are technical reasons for why you don't see gaming experiences that would even rival the Vita or 3DS on smartphones.
The switch is built from the ground up to play video games. The chipset, the development environment, everything has been built for that purpose.
Smartphones are all arounders. They are good at a lot of things, but they lack features that make them good for gaming applications.
Ok so you can keep living in your fantasy world then where this is a question that means anything at all.
Spiral Insanity
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Oh really? My iPad pro will never be able to give me a gaming experience like the Switch. It is very much a hardware philosophy that makes that happen, not just licensing/legal.
It is all about the standardized control options and (dedicated for gaming) software/hardware.
Booker.DeWitt
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can't open the file at work. is the specs any good? better than expected?
TwilightPrincess
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Nothing has changed, it is likely, but there can be smaller changes which make the system better and stronger. The thing is out in a few weeks and sombody with knowledge will open it, let's just wait.
Even the $800 phones don't compare when running actual gaming applications. Go run the 3DMark benchmarks on your iPhone. It doesn't look good, and it chugs hard.
If the frequencies are that important to you, pass on the system. Simple.
* Easily. Third party AAA were made to work on WII back in the day. AAA will definitely come if the Switch sells gangbuster; they will find a way if it makes financial sense. It definitely won't be a very easy port, though, assuming the Eurogamer specs.
There is nothing new about the specs here. It is basically an old version of the Eurogamer specs.
I will, thank you for your concern.
If the experience of sony or MS is anything to go by you're lucky if you get standard hardware. No, they usually strip it down and sell it to you for the same price. We've seen this scenario played out so many times. I'm actually giving them the benefit of the doubt here
Seems plausible. Well i hope nintendo did get a good deal if that is the case.
Well, some of the earliest rumors were nvidea approached nintendo with the X1 and offered a really good deal because nvidea had wafers on order for the next years that they didn't use because the X1 wasn't the succes they hoped for.
The original rumour:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1218933
As Thraktor said it back then:
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