Flying_Phoenix
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charlequin said:
What exactly can dual analog do that can't be covered by motion controls, pointer, or touch controls?
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Rumor: Wii 2 at E3; 6" Touch Controller [Up: Cafe Header On Nintendo Site, More]
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What exactly can dual analog do that can't be covered by motion controls, pointer, or touch controls?
-Pyromaniac-
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Yeah but a source who told them that could have easily exaggerated. Which he/she clearly did. I was just throwing that out there. I don't like IGN these days but it should definitely be noted that they probably have a larger pool of sources than others.mysteriousmage09 said:
We can't be sure what kind of features Wii2 will have because every rumor seems to be contradicting each other.MadOdorMachine said:
But what we do know is that the new console is indeed coming and far in development. With this many sources it can't be a fake rumor anymore. This rumor chaos always happens before new console's announcement.
HotGarbage
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Controllers are already stupid expensive these days. Wonder how much these will cost.
God, this almost reminds me of the insanity over the "Revolution" controller, only this time, the "leaks" aren't coming from a bunch of no name blogs! I will remain skeptical because this controller sounds fucking absurd, but this hype train is far too much fun so I'm gonna hop on anyways!
AceBandage
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Again, though, even a smaller increase over the 360/PS3 shouldn't put them out of the race for next gen.
ESPECIALLY if 360 ports are indeed as easy as the rumors say. They'll be able to easily downport all the games, and with the 1-2 year head start, devs will pretty much have to, since it'll have a good sized userbase by then.
ESPECIALLY if 360 ports are indeed as easy as the rumors say. They'll be able to easily downport all the games, and with the 1-2 year head start, devs will pretty much have to, since it'll have a good sized userbase by then.
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So this will likely be the final bullet point of Nintendo's E3 conference. The lights will go down, Reggie and Iwata will go on stage, and they will sing the song that ends the world.
AbsoluteZero
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overcast said:
Didn't seem to hurt them too much financially this generation.
Baki
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Ok - so 6" screen? Doesn't that mean the controller will be massive. I must say - I am quite intrigued by this direction. Its definitely very unique - and I would love to see where they go with this.
This is almost seems like its positioned against the iPad/NGP? Streaming HD games to a pad like device?!
Also 512MB ram is very disappointing - 1GB would have been far more pleasing. Actually if they had made it slightly more high end - the WII2 could be the lead SKU (with PC) with the PS3, 360 being the down ports.
This is almost seems like its positioned against the iPad/NGP? Streaming HD games to a pad like device?!
Also 512MB ram is very disappointing - 1GB would have been far more pleasing. Actually if they had made it slightly more high end - the WII2 could be the lead SKU (with PC) with the PS3, 360 being the down ports.
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mysteriousmage09 said:
RE: Revelations.
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I'm curious about this point, Amir0x. See, while I consider the Mario Galaxy games to be two of the best platformers of all time, I don't feel the need to act like they're the only good thing to come out of Nintendo this gen. But I guess we were arguing creativity, not goodness. SMG/2 were full of creativity that actively made them good.Amir0x said:
I know you're not partial to motion control or anything of the like, but what do you actually think of Wii Sports/Resort/Party from a pure gaming perspective?
My opinion is that, while games like Mario Galaxy have their place, the Wii__ line does as well. I've had some of the most fun with Wii Sports/Resort in social settings that I ever have as a video game hobbyist. Sure, there's an element of gimmickry to it all, and sure it's not like these games are the first of their kind. But Mii integration is charming for all players and these games are just fun and replayable in social settings, even though they may be shallow in a way. I love their addition to Nintendo's repertoire.
As for Wii Party, I just recently started playing it with friends and I've already come to the conclusion that it's better than any of the last several Mario Party games. Give me Mario Party 2 on VC and Wii Party and I have that genre covered. More good, clean fun.
But this is all my opinion. I actually see a goodness to the Wii's flagship IP (Wii__ games), even though I will always appreciate the core/bridge Nintendo games as well (like Kart, Smash, DKCR, Kirby, Metroid, Zelda, etc). What about you? Do you have some sort of vendetta against Nintendo's direction this gen because of some actual concern for where the company is headed, or is it just a bitter response based on the fact that you personally just don't like these games very much?
Wish there was more talk here about how Nintendo may play its various cards, franchise-wise, in relation to this console. In other words, what teams they have working on it, what franchises they might be working on, etc. That's always my favorite part of speculation, and why this calm before the storm is so fun. 
Seems Nintendo would consider a new F-Zero if one of this system's strong points is HD. Maybe sluggish U.S. sales of GP Legend aside, Nintendo skipped out on DS and Wii because they wanted a sufficient jump in visual fidelity? An F-Zero on Wii wouldn't look much more impressive than GX, but on this console? Indeed.
Who would make it? Maybe they could get Amusement Vision again. (Does AM still exist?) Or maybe Monster Games would take the reigns, having done Excite Truck, ExciteBots and Pilotwings (and NASCAR games in the past, I believe).
I also think Pikmin 3 might wind up on this console. A tablet-style controller or controller with a touchscreen could be useful for RTS-style games like Pikmin. Plus, didn't Shiggy say a small group was working on it, trying to find some "twist?" HD could bring a lot to the game, both from a presentation and gameplay standpoint. Not to mention all the added horsepower could support far more intricate action onscreen at once. I guess this would be an EAD title.
Hmm, what else?
Seems Nintendo would consider a new F-Zero if one of this system's strong points is HD. Maybe sluggish U.S. sales of GP Legend aside, Nintendo skipped out on DS and Wii because they wanted a sufficient jump in visual fidelity? An F-Zero on Wii wouldn't look much more impressive than GX, but on this console? Indeed.
Who would make it? Maybe they could get Amusement Vision again. (Does AM still exist?) Or maybe Monster Games would take the reigns, having done Excite Truck, ExciteBots and Pilotwings (and NASCAR games in the past, I believe).
I also think Pikmin 3 might wind up on this console. A tablet-style controller or controller with a touchscreen could be useful for RTS-style games like Pikmin. Plus, didn't Shiggy say a small group was working on it, trying to find some "twist?" HD could bring a lot to the game, both from a presentation and gameplay standpoint. Not to mention all the added horsepower could support far more intricate action onscreen at once. I guess this would be an EAD title.
Hmm, what else?
ColonelColon said:
I cant imagine it being ergonomic in any sense either. The controller would have to be fairly enormous if the screen is going to be even worth being there at all. There would be no point in having a screen on the controller which is tiny and useless. It'd also be a poor gaming concept as far as finding a balance between concentrating on what's going on in the TV and what's going on in the controller screen... why would I be looking at my controller when I should be looking at the TV?
DennisK4 said:
You know, there is a PLAUSIBLE explanation here... aside from trolling... either
1) The "slightly better than 360" thing is a 'leak' from a 3rd party developer with early dev kits, focused more on the new stuff than the power, and the final setup is more powerful. Possible, but odd.
2) Someone leaking info is clueless when it comes to actual system power and is basing this on eyeballing a demo running on the hardware.
3) It's speculation.
mysteriousmage09
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If you say so.Hero of Legend said:
Kabuki Quantum Lover
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This evolving rumour reminds me of infomercials.
"...and that's not all..."
"...and that's not all..."
-Pyromaniac-
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So how do we go about summoning Geoff, maybe he knows something.
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Boney said:
A leak is a leak. Whether or not this information is all true is another story, but it's not entirely possible anymore for Nintendo to keep their stuff under wraps like they used to. The internet has seen to that.
Disorientator
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(Nintendo will be using the same -bottom- screen as the (3)DS, obviously with the same touch functionality)
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ElectricBlanketFire
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The controller is the system. It beams games to your tv via USB receiver. Launch game Porta(b)l(e)
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Fantastical
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Wow, I can't believe the screen on the controller thing is all but confirmed. I really don't like the sound of it.
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3rd person action games, fighting games.Flying_Phoenix said:
DavidDayton said:
It would be much simpler if they just had pointer & nunchuk peripherals completely separate from the main controller, and ideally all included in the bundle, and would make more sense with the 6" screen.
Not only do you want that screen to have a somewhat normal aspect ratio if you're going to be watching stuff on it streamed from the console, but if it has touch screen capabilities you also want it to have some real estate. And that may mean a sizable screen that won't be conducive to grasping and pointing at anything. Provided all of this is even true, of course.
AceBandage
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Fantastical said:
It'd be great if it could be used for the system OS, actually.
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Maybe, last time I heard IGN was the most visited but last time I heard was a while ago. Either way, they are big as hell.Despera said:
Fantastical
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I'm kinda confused on this... what exactly do you mean? How would it be any better than just turning on the system.AceBandage said:
Souldriver
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Azelover said:
But seriously, I posted 2 times in this thread:
(*) One post about how the "Wii2 is super powerful" rumors will probably end up being wrong just like the how the Revolution rumors ended up being wrong.
(*) One post about how I don't want some weird functionality being slapped on the thing for the sake of being different.
As it stands now, I see both things becoming reality. God fucking damned! In regards to graphics: it's not so much that I give a damn about them. But if the rest of the world, including developers cares so much about them that they see the hardware as a pile of shit (like the Wii), I'm getting fucked. So I truly hope Nintendo knows what it's doing.
I hope none of these ridiculous "confirmed rumors" are true, and we can only be for sure that a Wii2 is around the corner.
IamMattFox
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This reminds me of the pre-Wiimote reveal.
Needless to say, I'm excited for the reactions when the thing is actually revealed.
Needless to say, I'm excited for the reactions when the thing is actually revealed.
AceBandage
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Fantastical said:
Instead of having to pause a game to say, look up your friends list or send messages, you could just do it from your controller.
DavidDayton said:
GameInformer said they got conflicting reports on power. Everything from less powerful to more powerful.
Maybe different devs have different perspectives on it. I mean, if the CPU is similar but GPU is some ways better, some might consider that 'similar' or 'a notch better'. Some might consider that more substantially better if it's - say - twice as powerful on the GPU side, while some might consider that a smaller deal.
In other words, we may be hearing varying opinions based on the same underlying facts...
civilstrife
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I think the buttons will be cut into the screen itself. Basically, the entire surface of the controller will be a contoured screen, with buttons and sticks cut directly into it.
There was an early "DS2" mockup with this effect. I'd love to find it again, if knows where it might be...
There was an early "DS2" mockup with this effect. I'd love to find it again, if knows where it might be...
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