AceBandage
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Skiesofwonder said:
Or how popular an HD Zelda/Mario will be.
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Rumor: Wii 2 at E3; 6" Touch Controller [Up: Cafe Header On Nintendo Site, More]
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Or how popular an HD Zelda/Mario will be.
StealthGoblin
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Amir0x said:It hasn't gone well. Most of their added peripherals are barely used at all. There are like five total motion plus games. And there's almost no balance board products at all.
And, as we know, Wii only includes one type of controller inside and few if any developers utilize the ones that are not inside the system from the get go. The nunchuck isn't a separate controller. It's literally part of the remote and only functions as part of the remote. So the only difference is removing the nunchuck or not. That does not two controllers make
Nintendo is not stupid. They're not going to include multiple controller types inside the system from the start, particularly if the controllers are wildly different. It's going to split development, it's going to confuse consumers. And it's going to increase the price of what is already going to be an expensive set of controllers.
I agree with your thoughts with regards to the controller. I think we'll see a remote shaped controller, with blue-tooth nunchuck. The controller will have the screen. I'm not sure what they'll add to that to make it more sensitive/precise than Move though. Maybe magnetism?
AceBandage
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Instro said:
Well... it's the weekend.
The true flood of information (if any of this is true) will be a week from Monday.
Pimpbaa said:
A 6950 at the fall of 2013?? Very possible if they make it to 22nm.
Or you could go 6850, which uses little power and generates little heat. Would still be great. Anything below would be a slight disappointment from both sides.
I want my Samaritan demo in realtime, actually. Hopefully. :-\
ShockingAlberto
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If they were real, it's possible they've been clamped down on.Instro said:
If they were just hearsay and scuttlebutt without much confirmation, then maybe everyone's gotten bored of it.
Zeliard said:
not sure. TBH for me at least its more valuable for Nintendo to get multiplatform parity. I'm guaranteed to buy their machines for their first party titles anyway. The more multplatform content they get, the more their online becomes passable, the closer their tech is to the others, the less need I have to buy one of the other platforms.
I've already done that this gen - sold my 360 and have stuck with PS3 and wii.
But if all three platforms have multiplatform parity, then first party titles, and the overall ecosystem of each machine becomes even more important.
AceBandage
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Ezduo said:
Nintendo's Investor Conference
lunchwithyuzo
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I think you misunderstood me, the add-ons have gone well from a consumer perspective, but not from a developer perspective. And Motion Plus not being there initially, but sloppily forced in mid-cycle (with terrible 1st party support I'd add), definitely hurt it's developer support. Consumers though, they didn't seem all that scared of or confused by the multitude of Wii controller options, instead they embraced them and bought tons of boards, wheels, zappers, etc. The thing this probably proved to Nintendo is that consumer adoption alone won't mean developer adoption (Wii overall sort of proves that out) and what you establish day one, out of the box is probably more important.Amir0x said:
I'd agree that Nintendo's m.o. is usually to make things more approachable, and that they won't include two entirely separate controllers out of the box. But having hypothetically, two modular components for the standard Wii 2 controller out of the box rather than the one Wii came with, doesn't seem all that unlikely or outside Nintendo's comfort zone.
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Amir0x said:
The Wii kind of went through that already. The nomenclature of narrowing down the exact control method i think created a cumbersome and awkward situation for many games. Wii remote? Remote + Nunchuk? Classic controller + GameCube controller + WaveBird? Wii remote on the side with pointer function? All the peripherals (steering wheel, zapper, balance board, wii motion plus).
Personally I hate that the crappy wiipointer was it absolutely necessary to select a game (and all the other stuff). Imagine if you had to change channels on the television by aiming that reticle on a box each time. Just let me use my regular controller and CLICK A.
I think Microsoft has it potentially right. Let the user stick with what he is comfortable. Or as an option let them use the hands free camera to control the system.
The most important thing is not to force anyone into one method over the other. Especially one that they are not used to.
My two cents.
AceBandage
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Ezduo said:
Well, at the last one they announced Kirby and Pandora's Tower.
They'll talk about this past years sales and what they are going to do in the future. It won't be a full media blowout, but they would announce a new console there.
ShockingAlberto
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You can control it with the classic controller and IIRC it defaults to hovering over the disc channel.Shikamaru Ninja said:
Graphics Horse
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rekameohs said:
Great improvement!
Everyone remember this quote?
Miyamoto said:
Hero of Legend
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AceBandage said:
Was the 3DS at the meeting last year? That was late March though, and their meetings are at a month after each quarter IIRC; Jan, Apr, etc.
Hope we also get some details of the next Pokeyman for Wii, and more details of Kirby Wii.
I think Nintendo is going to drop the Wiimote altogether(but probably keep some motion sensing of sort, but it won't be the selling point anyway ) .. They want the casual (and fickle) crowd to come again.. They need a new different gimmick, not the Wiimote++ to capture their attention or it will tank harder than the Move.$200 said:
- Scrollable screen in the Wiimote
Honestly this is the only logical concept I can think of, assuming the rumours are true, for Nintendo to incorporate a screen into the controller while keeping the strengths of the Wiimote.
You heard it here first.
lunchwithyuzo said:
Thing is in those cases, those peripherals were introduced in a slow drip throughout the years and accompanied by respective games that highlighted their functionalities. The Wiimote/Nunchuk is still universally considered the standard Wii controller.
If Nintendo here introduces both a pointer/nunchuk and a more traditional pad off the bat, which would be nice to see, they would essentially be saying that there are two standard and distinct controllers for the Wii.
Even then, prospects for it are lessened not so much due to confusion (anyone can see they do different things) as due to price. Nintendo would have to ship both pointer/nunchuk and pad in the box for it to really work, and that might end up too cost-prohibitive. Shame, too, because it would encourage devs to add pointer functionality to any game that would benefit from it (i.e. 1st/3rd-person shooters). They may do that anyway but perhaps not if the dual analog pad becomes the dominant controller.
AceBandage
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Teetris said:
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AceBandage said:
Plus this the fiscal year meeting, if I'm correct, which is likely much more important than the others.
apana said:
It's probably not entirely his call, but mostly Disney's, even if he agrees. And yes, I would expect it to look cleaner to that.
Epic Mickey Wii used the same style, but you'd be surprised how much you can get out of extra horse power. The exact same art direction on beefier hardware would look gorgeous. Trust me.
graywolf323
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a controller with a screen? why?
SmokedMeat
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I was really hoping this was going to be a true next gen system. A notch above 360, gives me mixed feelings. On one hand a Retro developed Metroid Prime game with 360 type power would rock.
On the other hand I wanted that 5yrs ago. This gen is almost 6yrs old. Do we really want the same familiar games running on the same familiar engines, or are we going to be ready to move on come 2012-2013?
One big possible benefit for Sony and Microsoft is that once they do move onto their next systems, the 360/PS3 will probably enjoy a nice extra long life sharing multiplatform games with the new Nintendo system.
On the other hand I wanted that 5yrs ago. This gen is almost 6yrs old. Do we really want the same familiar games running on the same familiar engines, or are we going to be ready to move on come 2012-2013?
One big possible benefit for Sony and Microsoft is that once they do move onto their next systems, the 360/PS3 will probably enjoy a nice extra long life sharing multiplatform games with the new Nintendo system.
AceBandage
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apana said:
User 694-309-392 isn't having enough fun! Turn up the voltage!
Starchasing
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Teetris said:
biometrics is my call
Starchasing
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graywolf323 said:
some social games are more fun when every player holds a secret from the others.... like when you play cards...
Having a screen for every player enables them to keep secrets.... like what power you have in mario kart
Leon S. Kennedy
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I think they will use the ubisoft wii drawing tablet as foundation to build their controller up from. A touch screen will replace the touchpad and a wiimote++ can pop in and out of the controller depending on how the controller is being used. Their will be some buttons / analog sticks on the tablet as well.
Graphics Horse
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Starchasing said:
Could this be a leaked photo of the new controller?
fistwell_old
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Because you did not understand how stupendously awesome waggle control was going to be. THEREFORE controller-with-screen is the new shit. Or something...graywolf323 said:
Skiesofwonder
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Graphics Horse said:
That sounds more like a hologram/headset/projector/virtual reality instead of having a screen on your controller.
Sometimes I just pick up some of my game controllers and press the buttons or waggle the sticks.
Favorite controllers in no particular order:
Wiimote/chuck+classic
Gamecube (it just fit so snug in my hand)
Xbox 360 controller (thats a damn fine controller)
Snes controller (too many good times to ignore, but it was ergonomically challenged.)
On the other side, I've never used a PS contoller that I liked and the DS3 is one of the worst controllers around.
I look forward to touching Wii2's controller...
Favorite controllers in no particular order:
Wiimote/chuck+classic
Gamecube (it just fit so snug in my hand)
Xbox 360 controller (thats a damn fine controller)
Snes controller (too many good times to ignore, but it was ergonomically challenged.)
On the other side, I've never used a PS contoller that I liked and the DS3 is one of the worst controllers around.
I look forward to touching Wii2's controller...
AceBandage
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Amir0x said:
Title should read Project Cafe (Wii 2).
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So a title change every fourth page, that has to be a record.
lunchwithyuzo
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While I don't disagree with any of this, Nintendo also made a strong push with the CCPro in Japan a few years back, bundling it with some systems and tons of 3rd party games. The obvious attempt there being get more "core" consumers comfortable with a traditional pad and traditional games to embrace the platform, though it was a bit too little, too late.Zeliard said:
That also makes me think Nintendo might be open to offering a more "traditional" choice out of the box with Wii 2, especially given their moves to seemingly be more 3rd party friendly and more traditional gamer friendly this time out than they went with DS/Wii. Obviously there's room for confusion there, but I think concerns about that get a bit overstated. There seems to be a real desire to get the hardcore back on board at Nintendo (for awhile now), and there also seems to be a strong indication for them that if you don't launch out of the box with something, then developers just won't bother. That's sort of my thought process with a traditional choice out of the box.
lunchwithyuzo
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Dreamcast on Virtual Console. <3graywolf323 said:
AceBandage
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And that makes it 39.
Thank you Amir0x.
Thank you Amir0x.
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