Cygnus X-1
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graywolf323 said:
I was asking myself the same thing. I hope it is not merely a gimmick, because I would have to pay for it without any advantage.
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Rumor: Wii 2 at E3; 6" Touch Controller [Up: Cafe Header On Nintendo Site, More]
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I was asking myself the same thing. I hope it is not merely a gimmick, because I would have to pay for it without any advantage.
Skiesofwonder
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Leon S. Kennedy said:
I think they will use the ubisoft wii drawing tablet as foundation to build their controller up from. A touch screen will replace the touchpad and a wiimote++ can pop in and out of the controller depending on how the controller is being used. Their will be some buttons / analog sticks on the tablet as well.
This makes a ton of sense.
Cygnus X-1
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Anyway, one thing is clear: the name of the system HAS to be Super Wii.
Cygnus X-1 said:
Think of it this way. It'll be like a console version of the DS. Dual Screens means you can provide interface information on the screen and not have it cluttering the TV.
That's about as basic a plan I can think of, and I can sorta see it helping things out. But only in that context; not as a replacement for actual buttons or anything. If the touchscreen is replacing some buttons then it is worthless and the system is skippable.
AceBandage
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Cygnus X-1 said:
They'll drop the Wii name for sure.
It's too tainted at this point.
Just call it Nintendo.
Simple, sweet, and incites that oh so wonderful nostalgia from gamers everywhere.
I would hate to remove my sight from the screen just to see the HUD/other relevant information.Amir0x said:
But yeah I can't come up with anything else either. What the hell can a screen on the controller do? I can get motion controls: Wii Sports wouldn't be fun without it. But a screen can only be used in a gimmicky Zack & Wiki sort of way, or to make things a tad bit more convenient. Never to make things that can't be made without it.
AceBandage
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sphinx said:
All the rumors refer to the system's code name being Project Cafe.
http://www.gamingunion.net/news/nin...t-cafe-more-powerful-than-xbox-360--4702.html
http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/po...mors-emerge-including-code-name-project-cafe/
Ridleyscott
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All those rumors remind me of the Nintendo On "prototype":
1.) Sensor bar above the visor.
2.) Screens on the controller, i.e., visor - maybe one lean six inch 3D display or two 3" for each eye.
3.) System could stream games to the visor, "controller", or to a TV.
4.) Motion controls through the camera on the visor.
Could use two wireless motion controllers that are like the nunchuck and the wiimote blended together with built in WM+.
Just saying that ON fits this description almost exactly without having some 12" GameCube controller with a screen in the middle, but I'm not really sure Nintendo would go this route unless they really were just catering to the "hardcore" since most gamers (the people who like 2D Mario over 3D Mario) wouldn't want to be isolated in some VR device. as long as it was sleek, I think most core gamers would be really interested especially since each could have their own visor and link up to one system. But this lines up with what they did with 3DS and the system could also output to a TV as well.
It would have a touchscreen-like functionality as well since it is a VR/hand-gesture/motion-controller setup.
But the "Project Cafe" sounds like something "Social" to me but which also caters to all sorts of interests.
I really think that there is no reason for a new system. All that Nintendo and other game companies need to do is make the games that most people want to play... which are old-school, NESified arcade-style games like the NES Mario, Zelda, Contra, Metroid, etc. This was evidenced by the sales of NSMB which cleaned just about every other game's clock except for other low-key games that have origins in the NES/SNES arcade roots. Developers are trying to create these games with stories and crap but most people don't want that - video game stories aren't interesting or well-written anyway. Most people play video games to play video games not get wrapped-up in a story. They want games like the NES games where you popped-in the game and were playing in seconds without interruption in the gameplay with cut-scenes. Wii could sell for another 5 years with record game sales pushing 200 million units if they would do this.
Today's games are mostly bloated low-quality garbage.
1.) Sensor bar above the visor.
2.) Screens on the controller, i.e., visor - maybe one lean six inch 3D display or two 3" for each eye.
3.) System could stream games to the visor, "controller", or to a TV.
4.) Motion controls through the camera on the visor.
Could use two wireless motion controllers that are like the nunchuck and the wiimote blended together with built in WM+.
Just saying that ON fits this description almost exactly without having some 12" GameCube controller with a screen in the middle, but I'm not really sure Nintendo would go this route unless they really were just catering to the "hardcore" since most gamers (the people who like 2D Mario over 3D Mario) wouldn't want to be isolated in some VR device. as long as it was sleek, I think most core gamers would be really interested especially since each could have their own visor and link up to one system. But this lines up with what they did with 3DS and the system could also output to a TV as well.
It would have a touchscreen-like functionality as well since it is a VR/hand-gesture/motion-controller setup.
But the "Project Cafe" sounds like something "Social" to me but which also caters to all sorts of interests.
I really think that there is no reason for a new system. All that Nintendo and other game companies need to do is make the games that most people want to play... which are old-school, NESified arcade-style games like the NES Mario, Zelda, Contra, Metroid, etc. This was evidenced by the sales of NSMB which cleaned just about every other game's clock except for other low-key games that have origins in the NES/SNES arcade roots. Developers are trying to create these games with stories and crap but most people don't want that - video game stories aren't interesting or well-written anyway. Most people play video games to play video games not get wrapped-up in a story. They want games like the NES games where you popped-in the game and were playing in seconds without interruption in the gameplay with cut-scenes. Wii could sell for another 5 years with record game sales pushing 200 million units if they would do this.
Today's games are mostly bloated low-quality garbage.
upandaway said:
Puzzles. Amusing AR opportunities (like, someone sending you a message to your controller screen; think of No More Heroes telephone calls). Stuff like that. There are gameplay opportunities there, but I assume interface information is the one that'll help most.
AceBandage
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I think having the OS somehow tied to the screen would be a good idea.
The ability to pull up messages and friends lists while still fully in the game.
Being able to surf online as well.
The ability to pull up messages and friends lists while still fully in the game.
Being able to surf online as well.
Wolves Evolve
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All these people saying a screen in the controller will never work:
And look how that worked out...
And look how that worked out...
Future PhaZe
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graywolf323 said:
Madden 12 best version confirmed
AceBandage
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oatmeal said:
Revolution.
DS was Nitro.
3DS is Century.
Graphics Horse
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richisawesome said:
But why was the processor called Flipper?, hmm?
AceBandage
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apana said:
Project Destroy All Humans
oatmeal said:
Ah, yes that's right.
-Pyromaniac-
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They should have called it Project NGP-G. That's New Gimmick Per Generation
abstract alien
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Sega is pretty stupid though, just in a brilliantly non profitable way.Wolves Evolve said:All these people saying a screen in the controller will never work:
And look how that worked out...
Graphics Horse
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They should have called it Project Kangaroo and had a chip called Skippy
AceBandage
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-Pyromaniac- said:They should have called it Project NGP-G. That's New Gimmick Per Generation
Project
NGGYU
NGLYD
NGRAADY
Bonus points if you get it!
AceBandage
Banned
sillymonkey321 said:
Er, the rumor is still that it's more powerful...
apana said:I still hope it's just a screen. Chances are unlikely but it would be something truly revolutionary:
revolutionarily awful. Literally 90% of genres would be inferior to other platforms. This is the definition of gimmick for gimmick-sake, gameplay-be damned. Fuck that shit. Seriously some of you people...
Always-honest
Banned
Project Contemporary
I am thinking this will be an upgrade to the Wii-controller.
Kind of like the 3ds is an upgrade to DS.
It will keep existing buttons and dpad but add two analogue sticks and also keep the IR sensor + gyro inside.
For the controller to work for pointing etc it needs to be holdable in one hand, like the original Wii-mote.
Hence i think it will just more or less be a Wii-mote but the plastic behind the buttons are replaced by a touch screen. It will keep the ratio of the current Wiimote when it comes to dimentsions. It will not be a traditional 16:9 screen. Kind of like this:
The question is.. is it possible to create an lcd/oled screen with physical holes in to fit the dpad, sticks, buttons etc?
Kind of like the 3ds is an upgrade to DS.
It will keep existing buttons and dpad but add two analogue sticks and also keep the IR sensor + gyro inside.
For the controller to work for pointing etc it needs to be holdable in one hand, like the original Wii-mote.
Hence i think it will just more or less be a Wii-mote but the plastic behind the buttons are replaced by a touch screen. It will keep the ratio of the current Wiimote when it comes to dimentsions. It will not be a traditional 16:9 screen. Kind of like this:
The question is.. is it possible to create an lcd/oled screen with physical holes in to fit the dpad, sticks, buttons etc?
Skiesofwonder
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Amir0x said:oh that's actually a really good idea. A message from friends popping up on the controller while you're playing would be rad
waaaay too future thinking for Nintendo imo
The 3DS whispers no.
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