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Rumor: Wii 2 at E3; 6" Touch Controller [Up: Cafe Header On Nintendo Site, More]
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EmCeeGramr
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2013 if it's the dark gritty Zelda prequel made by Retro, starring a young Ganondorf.AniHawk said:
ShockingAlberto
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What? No.crisdecuba said:I have to wonder how thought out their strategy was - because I could see this as having been planned all along.
I wonder if...
1. They were confident in their "casual gamer" approach and the ability for motion controls to bring people in
2. So they make their console SD, less powerful, etc. and make lots of money by selling it at $250 for years.
3. MS and Sony make their consoles uber powerful by comparison, sell them at a loss, which makes lengthening the console life-span important in order to recoup costs / make money
4. MS and Sony gravitate toward the "casual" market, pin their hopes on motion controls to extend the console life-span
5. Nintendo is free to move first in ending their console's lifespan, releases something significantly more powerful right at the time when MS and Sony are trying to extend their consoles through motion controls (the general concept of which is no longer novel)
6. Sony and MS are now pressured to do what they don't want to do: release their next system sooner rather than later, etc.
You have to wonder how much of this "all according to plan."
The Wii was a huge risk. There wasn't any "We're totally confident this will work so we're going to PROFIT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE by making it SD" going on there. Don't you remember the whole "rise to heaven or fall to hell" thing?
It succeeded so they didn't need to quickly throw it away and make a graphically competitive system.
The 3DS has explicitly been about taking those casual players and adding in the hardcore market. It's not at all surprising that Nintendo is adopting the exact same strategy with the Wii successor.
fizzelopeguss
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3DS hardware is a bit of a disgrace, i just can't get excited about this new system being a monster.
Motion control is a pretty fair fight right now with Kinect sales doing well. And MS/Sony will leapfrog whatever tech Nintendo puts out by virtue of rolling out their new systems later.
I think key for Nintendo is to fix their online infrastructure and reconcile relationships with third parties.
I think key for Nintendo is to fix their online infrastructure and reconcile relationships with third parties.
So long as it's powerful enough, once 3rd party franchises are in place they're likely to stay there. For example, the 360 got a market for so-called "hardcore" games, which never migrated to the Wii - which had to establish a different set of demographics to market to. That's why Nintendo wants to bring in these 3rd parties now in order to establish those franchises from the outset.rpmurphy said:
Edag Plata
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So the original GI story was taken down?
Chittagong
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Looks like Nintendo is once again fulfilling a Chittadamus prophecy.
Fernando Rocker
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Which GAF'er can write something about why Steam could work on a Nintendo system?
My limited English can't let me write it.
Send me a PM, please, so we can discuss something. Really.
My limited English can't let me write it.
Send me a PM, please, so we can discuss something. Really.
Neuromancer
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I'm readyMiniBossBattle said:
OG_Original Gamer
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If you Mark Rein and approached by a Nintendo rep, do you still turn them down?
brain_stew
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Well the console won't support the directx 11 API but the GPU will absolutely be DX11 class in terms of featureset, that much is assured. Even the integrated graphics on AMD's netbook chips are DX11 class.mysteriousmage09 said:
Appollowexx said:
I imagine it still probably won't be the most powerful machine possible. I can't imagine Nintendo releasing a console at this point that costs any more than $299. Nintendo needs to perform a balancing act between keeping their hardware competetive enough to get multiplatform games, and finding a way to get their "blue ocean" Wii audience to carry over to the Wii2.
Imperial Hot
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Of course the Wii 2 would be more powerful than the PS3 or Xbox 360.
Why would Nintendo release a new console that is not better than five-year old technology?
Why would Nintendo release a new console that is not better than five-year old technology?
Fernando Rocker
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OG_Original Gamer said:
Nintendo could have a system with 12 processing cores, dual GPU and 8GB of RAM and Mark Rein would still say that the system doesn't have the necessary requirements to run their games.
Error Macro
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DUN GOOFD said:
I will LMAO if PS4/X720 are Wii-like in their upgrades. PS3Turbo and two 360s duct taped together. It wouldn't surprise me, though.
lunchwithyuzo
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It's a new Wii that can likely handle PS3/360 ports pretty painlessly. Who won't release games for it?miksar said:
AgentChris
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I don't want realistic looking games. Just colorful Nintendo games with high framerate and crazy resolution.
brain_stew
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Fernando Rocker said:
"Steam" can't but the Steamworks API absolutely can. There's few decisions that would please third parties more than integrating Steamworks in the core OS of their new system.
Sounds good if this is actually true. Even though Nintendo are usually pretty reserved with acquiring companies, I wouldn't be surprised if they made at least one big move by the end of this generation. I understand the concern about expanding too quickly, but the development times between the Wii successor and the 3DS will take its toll unless they restructure at least a little. I suppose Project Sora is a start, and hopefully funding games like The Last Story and Pandora's Tower will also be more common from the start next generation.
There was a poll floating around after the reveal of Other M, asking what companies people would like to see Nintendo work with... and even though that one didn't work so well, I'll assume more things like this are coming to compensate for the amount of projects they can develop at a time. Late 2012 is a lot of time for the first wave of projects at least, and good thing a lot of the current projects are outsourced. Is it absurd to even think Game Arts... or another company this time is already working with Nintendo on the next Smash Bros? No way it's not in the planning stages if internal studios are working on games for the system.
There was a poll floating around after the reveal of Other M, asking what companies people would like to see Nintendo work with... and even though that one didn't work so well, I'll assume more things like this are coming to compensate for the amount of projects they can develop at a time. Late 2012 is a lot of time for the first wave of projects at least, and good thing a lot of the current projects are outsourced. Is it absurd to even think Game Arts... or another company this time is already working with Nintendo on the next Smash Bros? No way it's not in the planning stages if internal studios are working on games for the system.
Darth Pinche
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Sweet! Now I get to start scooping up Wii titles for cheap,like I am doing now with GC games. LTTP will be on my tombstone.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_game_publisherslunchwithyuzo said:
Fernando Rocker
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brain_stew said:
Yeah... that's what I wanted to say... or at least Valve to develop all the Nintendo's online services for their new console.
Why's everybody so exited? It are just some rumours about a new console at E3, like we didn't get those every other year... Anyways, Wii2 will only be interesting when Nintendo comes with new series, something that couldn't be done before. I have a feeling that they'll just upscale the new Zelda, put a Galaxy 2 remix called Galaxy 3 out and call it a launch.
mysteriousmage09
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Sony for sure will be going for high tech with PS4. Not sure with MS though with how badly they've been clinging to Kinect lately.Error Macro said:
Steve Youngblood
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Wait, are you serious about writing Gabe? I think Valve has the situation under control. Not to deride your enthusiasm, but I think they have enough technical expertise on staff to not need advice from fans on which platforms to support.Fernando Rocker said:
BruceLeeRoy
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If it indeed is as or more powerful than 360/PS3 I am so there day mutha fluffin 1!
Please Nintendo Wow me again! PLEASE!!
Please Nintendo Wow me again! PLEASE!!
Well, this E3 got more interesting.
Let me just say, I've been an avid fan of Nintendo since the NES days, and I've missed out on the Wii for several reasons, including budget and the fact that motion gaming just isn't my cup of tea.
But this sounds very promising to me. HD and at least on par with PS3? Good. With Nintendo's first-party prowess (I'd love a Wind Waker HD port) as well as a good relationship with third-party studios AND if it includes an optional standard controller method. Like Xbox 360 and PS3 in that regard. I'd be very interested. Again, not having as much money for gaming as I used to, I wouldn't be an early adopter, but when it comes down in price I'd definitely be in for it.
I'm an avid fan of NES, SNES, Nintendo 64 and Gamecube. In fact, the Gamecube was my preferred console over Xbox and PS2. Exciting times, anyway.
Let me just say, I've been an avid fan of Nintendo since the NES days, and I've missed out on the Wii for several reasons, including budget and the fact that motion gaming just isn't my cup of tea.
But this sounds very promising to me. HD and at least on par with PS3? Good. With Nintendo's first-party prowess (I'd love a Wind Waker HD port) as well as a good relationship with third-party studios AND if it includes an optional standard controller method. Like Xbox 360 and PS3 in that regard. I'd be very interested. Again, not having as much money for gaming as I used to, I wouldn't be an early adopter, but when it comes down in price I'd definitely be in for it.
I'm an avid fan of NES, SNES, Nintendo 64 and Gamecube. In fact, the Gamecube was my preferred console over Xbox and PS2. Exciting times, anyway.
CrushDance
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Hype +1, but one question:
What would be the point? Microsoft and Sony would and will release their next systems soon, Nintendo would be back in the same spot.
What would be the point? Microsoft and Sony would and will release their next systems soon, Nintendo would be back in the same spot.
Smiles and Cries
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IGN said the 3DS was really powerful even going as far to say 360/PS3 levels and look how that report turned out. I'll wait and see before getting too excited
still having a Nintendo platform not being left out of HD ports would be nice.
Significantly more powerful would only be a dream and it would push Microsoft and Sony to come out with new hardware sooner to leapfrog it
still having a Nintendo platform not being left out of HD ports would be nice.
Significantly more powerful would only be a dream and it would push Microsoft and Sony to come out with new hardware sooner to leapfrog it
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