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Rumor: Wii 2 at E3; 6" Touch Controller [Up: Cafe Header On Nintendo Site, More]
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GregLombardi
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The only thing I remember that either Iwata or Reggie said that stuck out to me was something to the effect of:GDGF said:
"If we are going to do a new console, one would expect that we'd wait until we found something more compelling than just a graphics upgrade"
The Xtortionist
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Still holding out for the inevitable 1080p 60FPS F-Zero with 30-player online play and Halo Reach-style file sharing for custom tracks and vehicles.
Saint Gregory
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Nah, whenever we go through these exercises there's always one person in the thread who's guess is almost exactly right. Unfortunately that person is usually ridiculed and chased out of the thread before anyone takes their guess seriously. It's like some kind of Cassandra syndrome.ReyVGM said:
Iwata to Jackson:
No other piece of equipment has been misidentified as the Wii 2 more often than the iPad or Kindle tablets.
Your scientists have yet to discover how neural networks create self-consciousness, let alone how the human brain processes two-dimensional retinal images into the three-dimensional phenomenon known as perception. Yet you somehow brazenly declare seeing is believing? Mr. Jackson, your scientific illiteracy makes me shudder, and I wouldn't flaunt your ignorance by telling anyone that you saw anything other than a Wii with and iPad tablet next to it, because if you do, you're a dead man.
No other piece of equipment has been misidentified as the Wii 2 more often than the iPad or Kindle tablets.
Your scientists have yet to discover how neural networks create self-consciousness, let alone how the human brain processes two-dimensional retinal images into the three-dimensional phenomenon known as perception. Yet you somehow brazenly declare seeing is believing? Mr. Jackson, your scientific illiteracy makes me shudder, and I wouldn't flaunt your ignorance by telling anyone that you saw anything other than a Wii with and iPad tablet next to it, because if you do, you're a dead man.
Dr.Palutena
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The Xtortionist said:
heck yea , that , star fox by retro and Super smash Bros. with a proper online system all in the first 6 months/year . Believe!
Jim E. Rossler
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In an alternate Universe:
In Nov. 2004 an anonymous source leaks microsoft's new console has graphics 'a notch' above xbox graphics. it is later revealed said source saw Need For Speed: Most Wanted
ANOTHER source says the upcoming console will be 'SIGNIFICANTLY' better than xbox.
This source later revealed the game it saw was PGR3.
I repeat:
Vs
Both were launch games, neither source was lying.
BACK TO REALITY
An anonymous source is saying Wii2 is ' a notch' above, another 'significantly'
hmm...
In Nov. 2004 an anonymous source leaks microsoft's new console has graphics 'a notch' above xbox graphics. it is later revealed said source saw Need For Speed: Most Wanted
ANOTHER source says the upcoming console will be 'SIGNIFICANTLY' better than xbox.
This source later revealed the game it saw was PGR3.
I repeat:
Vs
Both were launch games, neither source was lying.
BACK TO REALITY
An anonymous source is saying Wii2 is ' a notch' above, another 'significantly'
hmm...
I know those pgr shots were probably 'photo mode', especially that last one, but still...
EatChildren
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Smash Bros. will be an interesting one. Even with the small increase in the Wii's power, Brawl looks worlds better than Melee.
Even going through Dolphin the textures still hold up.
Even going through Dolphin the textures still hold up.
ThatObviousUser
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EatChildren said:
Brawl's textures are truly phenomenal. It wouldn't surprise me if they ported it to Wii 2, redid the online, and sold it in lieu of an official Sakurai-blessed Smash Bros.
civilstrife
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Hey Jackson.
Scribblenauts would work pretty well on a system with a touchscreen controller, wouldn't it?
Scribblenauts would work pretty well on a system with a touchscreen controller, wouldn't it?
GregLombardi
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Smash Bros. is a system seller. All they have to do is replicate Xbox Live for it instead of the terrible system they had in the past for Wii.EatChildren said:
Jim E. Rossler
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We don't know, its anonymousJoey Fox said:
shadyspace
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Andrex said:
After Brawl, I would prefer a non-Sakurai blessed Smash Bros. at this point.
ThoseDeafMutes
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EatChildren said:
If they can get out a Smash Bros out before the competition launches, they'll be laughing all the way to the bank.
Oh who am I kidding, they'll do that even if they can't.
The Xtortionist
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DoomXploder7 said:
Don't remind me. I bought Brawl for it's online which turned out to be the most fucking pathetic thing I've ever seen. 2 second input delay when I played 1v1 against my friend who lives 10 minutes away. Plus no partying up for 2v2, no 1v1 no items playlist...It's got me raging even now.
On topic - Will be interesting to see if the more powerful tech will lead to definitive multiplats, and if the system can steal communities like Call of Duty, etc...
paranoidfortean
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nintendo needs something new, but i can't imagine it will be this.
statham
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you want hardcores buying your system, casuals came come laterfarnham said:
sheesh: I think hes a closet nintendo fan turned PS3 fan that doesn't want anyone to one-up PS3 on graphics. really who wouldn't want a hd zelda or mario. he grew up on nintendo and now sony and now wants to believe they are king. reread the last few pages I'm sure I might be right
edit: I sound like a idoit.
ElRenoRaven
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Game-Biz said:Iwata to Jackson:
No other piece of equipment has been misidentified as the Wii 2 more often than the iPad or Kindle tablets.
Your scientists have yet to discover how neural networks create self-consciousness, let alone how the human brain processes two-dimensional retinal images into the three-dimensional phenomenon known as perception. Yet you somehow brazenly declare seeing is believing? Mr. Jackson, your scientific illiteracy makes me shudder, and I wouldn't flaunt your ignorance by telling anyone that you saw anything other than a Wii with and iPad tablet next to it, because if you do, you're a dead man.
ROFLMFAO!!!!!!!
Ah I needed a good laugh tonight and you supplied me one. I owe you one.
Grampa Simpson
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I don't know who those people are.Saint Gregory said:
Ralph Baer
Holy Order Sol
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shadyspace said:
Let Ono handle it.
wait what
shadyspace
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Holy Order Sol said:
lolololol, yes. Capcom'll announce that Nintendo has emphatically said they'll never agree to Capcom Vs. Nintendo. The next day, Ono'll be revealed as the special guest director of the next Smash Bros that features a slew of Capcom characters.
Meh, I wouldn't mind seeing the Smash Bros. series put to rest for a little while. It's not going to happen though. Third-party support won't get the Wii HD flying off shelves. Nintendo's own efforts are still the main factor regarding any retail success for the platform. In the end, Nintendo will just have remedied the disadvantages it had with the Wii as it's now and even playing field. I wouldn't be surprised if many their heavy hitters came out within its first year of retail. I would much rather see Nintendo vs. Capcom, or would be even more content with Super Street Fighter IV Turbo (which is guaranteed to happen).
People keep on assuming that Sony and Microsoft will be quick to launch their next gen successors to the PS3 and Xbox 360 but there is really no need to or logical reason to do with the state of financial markets, cost of development on HD titles now, etc...
Furthermore, Microsoft is seeing great numbers with the Kinect, which is in fact the successor to the Xbox 360 for the most part. The Wii changed the landscape of the industry and has stretched out the lifespan of the current hardware available on retail.
And by not releasing and overpowered piece of hardware to push the industry into the next gen, along with next gen development costs (which no publisher or developer would be to thrilled about), Nintendo has pretty much made and even playing field and will probably look to launch the Wii HD at a competitive price point when considering the entry price for the Xbox 360 and Kinect.
Sony is kind of in a tough spot however. The Move didn't take off, and granted it doesn't seem like they pushed it enough. Even so, I don't see them rushing to make launch a new console either any time soon.
And lastly, those clamoring for the PS4 and Xbox 720 aren't even thinking about things logically. It's not happening anytime soon. There is no pressure, need or consumer interest to do so anytime soon. I pity graphics whores these days. The industry and consumers in general don't really care about you anymore.
People keep on assuming that Sony and Microsoft will be quick to launch their next gen successors to the PS3 and Xbox 360 but there is really no need to or logical reason to do with the state of financial markets, cost of development on HD titles now, etc...
Furthermore, Microsoft is seeing great numbers with the Kinect, which is in fact the successor to the Xbox 360 for the most part. The Wii changed the landscape of the industry and has stretched out the lifespan of the current hardware available on retail.
And by not releasing and overpowered piece of hardware to push the industry into the next gen, along with next gen development costs (which no publisher or developer would be to thrilled about), Nintendo has pretty much made and even playing field and will probably look to launch the Wii HD at a competitive price point when considering the entry price for the Xbox 360 and Kinect.
Sony is kind of in a tough spot however. The Move didn't take off, and granted it doesn't seem like they pushed it enough. Even so, I don't see them rushing to make launch a new console either any time soon.
And lastly, those clamoring for the PS4 and Xbox 720 aren't even thinking about things logically. It's not happening anytime soon. There is no pressure, need or consumer interest to do so anytime soon. I pity graphics whores these days. The industry and consumers in general don't really care about you anymore.
ThatObviousUser
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EmmanuelMunoz said:
It's going to end up being 5 or 6 when all is said and done anyways, although that's if the 3DS doesn't get an installment, which seems somewhat likely.
There needs to be a Smash Bros. HD. Sooner the better.VerTiGo said:
The move didn't take off? Last month they said Kinect topped 10 million and they just said Move sold 8 million.
You keep talking about "now". The earliest the Wii2 would hit is 2012. Everyone pretty much expects ps4/720 in 2013 afaik.
Nintendo will use the Wii HD to continue the successes of the Wii. So, all the succesful IPs that sold big on the Wii should make and appearance very early on. The goal here is not to launch the next generation of gaming, we just went through a hybrid era and you could even say that next gen started with the release of the Kinect.
What I expect to appear within the first year of Wii HD's retail life:
[Nintendo]
Super Smash Bros.
F-Zero ZX (perfect showcase for HD visuals)
New Super Mario World
Mario Kart (assuming that MK3DS comes out this Fall)
[Moneyhats]
Super Street Fighter IV TURBO
Resident Evil Mercenaries
Resident Evil Revelations II
Metal Gear Solid 4
Obviously, they will be looking to launch the system with a blue ocean type of game showcasing the hardware's unique features. I do expect Wii Sports to be retired however. Whatever those games did would ideally become the foundation for other sports games or games that utilize those mechanics.
What I expect to appear within the first year of Wii HD's retail life:
[Nintendo]
Super Smash Bros.
F-Zero ZX (perfect showcase for HD visuals)
New Super Mario World
Mario Kart (assuming that MK3DS comes out this Fall)
[Moneyhats]
Super Street Fighter IV TURBO
Resident Evil Mercenaries
Resident Evil Revelations II
Metal Gear Solid 4
Obviously, they will be looking to launch the system with a blue ocean type of game showcasing the hardware's unique features. I do expect Wii Sports to be retired however. Whatever those games did would ideally become the foundation for other sports games or games that utilize those mechanics.
DeathNote said:
8 million Move controllers shipped or sold, still insignificant... It has not led to any legit growth for PS3 hardware.
Everyone who expects Microsoft to launch a new console in 2013 should be ready for disappointment. They aren't going to rush to release a new platform when 360 sales are better than ever before. The only way that can happen if they can't keep pushing quality titles out for the Kinect to continue consumer interest. So, with that said "everyone" is fucking retarded.
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