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Would that even be possible? If so, I can't imagine Nintendo making that feature free.Big One said:
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Rumor: Wii 2 at E3; 6" Touch Controller [Up: Cafe Header On Nintendo Site, More]
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Dr.Palutena
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Big One said:
they still have 3dses to sell dude. I'd be surprised if this thing streams outside of 20 feet tops from your console.
I don't have to imagine it, because the PS3 already does that with PSP Remote Play, and it doesn't work that well at all with the inherent second to half-second lag.Big One said:
That is, it works with slower paced games (puzzle/etc.), but a game like GTA V would be really bad.
which1spink said:
Okay, I don't think this will happen but I'd like to hear more. Are you saying that if this were the case the actual console portion would only be for transmitting data and playing on the HD tv? So then the tablet is actually a full fledge tablet capable of running all the games on the go like at a cafe, not just streaming games from a couple yards away from the console? And this tablet would also be like the ipad with apps, movies etc?
Also would there then be a secondary controller set up that has all the buttons and d-pads? Or are you thinking Nintendo is aiming for another revolution with even simpler controls? Also in this case would the tablet be multi-touch?
Fernando Rocker
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Nice!From The Dust said:
*Hi five.
Dr.Palutena
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EmmanuelMunoz said:
lol i was like that too.
brochiller
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DoomXploder7 said:
I think it may be something that just works on your home wireless network.
Ridleyscott
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Why would they even care? Nintendo is the only console manufacturer that made a profit this gen and a huge one at that. Nintendo also has the most sold games this gen, and the most profit made on games this gen.
Total game industry profits are like 80% Nintendo's.
They don't give a rats ass about getting third parties, they don't need third parties.
DeathbyVolcano
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Ridleyscott said:
You're what's wrong with ninthings these days.
Here's the thing: Nintendo's war chest floweths over at this point. If they are serious about trying to win back the gaming core, what have they got to lose paying off a big house for a big title with exclusivity/timed exclusivity/exclusive content? Surely the risk versus reward on such a deal would be in Nintendo's favor.artwalknoon said:
Great Rumbler
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Ridleyscott said:
No, they don't, but most gamers certainly do.
Games that would guarantee at least 50 million+ consoles sold even without 3rd party support:
Mario Galaxy 3
New Super Mario World
Star Fox
F-Zero
Metroid games
Animal Crossing
Smash Bros. Ruckus
Mario Kart
Paper Mario
Mario Party
Pikmin
Full fledged Pokemon game
Zelda
Yoshi's Island
Diddy Kong Racing
Donkey Kong Country Returns Again
Pokemon Wii Snap
Wii Get Even More Fit
Bigger Brain Academy
Punch Out: Mac's Return
Mario Galaxy 3
New Super Mario World
Star Fox
F-Zero
Metroid games
Animal Crossing
Smash Bros. Ruckus
Mario Kart
Paper Mario
Mario Party
Pikmin
Full fledged Pokemon game
Zelda
Yoshi's Island
Diddy Kong Racing
Donkey Kong Country Returns Again
Pokemon Wii Snap
Wii Get Even More Fit
Bigger Brain Academy
Punch Out: Mac's Return
Great Rumbler
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JCRedeems said:
There, I took out the games that didn't help the N64 and/or Gamecube get anywhere near 50 million sales worldwide.
well maybe, but there's one guy who disagrees.Ridleyscott said:
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/conference2010/presentation/textE/08.htmlsatoru iwata said:
Duly noted on all of that...although I wouldn't stop at Rockstar. I'd be making that exact same pitch to any third party even willing to listen and had some sort of high-profile game on the way. GTA is a big name, yes, but one name is not going to be nearly enough to sell Cafe to a group of people that have largely dismissed Nintendo for over a decade, especially a group that knows that these games will also be coming to a system that they already own. If GTA is the only third party pull that they can manage, then even if it does do well I don't think it helps Nintendo break out of that stigma. They've done that same thing with Gamecube and Wii both on various occasions, the "hey look, here's a really cool Mature game on our console!" People still sought the alternatives.KevinCow said:
A lot of this so-called mature or hardcore gamer population does rely on image and marketing, so Nintendo's going to need both a brand for its system that doesn't push people away, and it's going to need a big library from the get-go that screams "take us seriously!" I'm intrigued by the poster that suggested Nintendo not produce their own core game for the system's launch, but at the same time isn't the prospect of Nintendo's own high-quality products supposed to be one of the major selling points of the console over its competition? Would Nintendo place that much faith in third parties to lead the way with 'hardcore' applications of whatever their Shaymalan-twist technology is?
Thunder Monkey
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I'd love a Mass Effect Triology for the Super Wii Cafe Funtime Extreme.
Dr.Palutena
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bah! established nintendo franchise wise all i want to see is f zero, pikmin,star fox and a 2d zelda everything else can wait for a while before releasing. oh and maybe a new mario party.
Holy Order Sol
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Andrex said:
Whoever coined the "1.5" thing as a dismissive term deserves to get suplex'd like 6 times in a row. ON CONCRETE.
brochiller
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Doorman said:
This is the problem I have with that idea. I, along with many others, love Nintendo consoles for their games and I don't want a console launch with a bunch of 3rd party games that are also on other consoles. Maybe they could sway them with how they market the launch, but I can't see Nintendo giving up the opportunity to big launch day sales to another third party, let alone entrust third parties to deliver a solid launch lineup. There's no guarantee they'll deliver.
Ridleyscott
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I disagree. Most gamers don't care. The only gamers who do make up the minority of the population of gamers... people like you and me. The largest population of gamers are often called "casuals". They bought most of the Wiis and Wii games - much larger demographic than the "core".
Go look at the sales numbers. MS and Sony lost money on every system they sold this gen. Their game divisions are in the hole by billions.
It isn't what someone says but what they do that is important.
I would like to see third party games on Nintendo, if they are good, but Nintendo could run their business independently.
DeathbyVolcano
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i lol'd
Dr.Palutena
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brochiller said:
i see a 3ds type launch . 360/ps3 ports and/or simultaneous releases with 360/ps3 games of the time and then maybe 2 or 3 nintendo franchises : Pikmin 3, ???, new ip.
ThatObviousUser
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Holy Order Sol said:
Hey, Miyamoto said it himself.
Ridleyscott
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Why? It's the truth. Every system was sold at a loss, except for Wiis.DeathbyVolcano said:
which1spink
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artwalknoon said:
No, what I was trying to say was that I think there's a possibility that it's no meant to be hooked up to a TV.
The system could come in two sub-systems: The tablet which acts as the display and as controller (again: 2 analog sticks, 2 triggers, gyroscope, vitality sensor, two cams and the 6" 720p multitouch probably with advanced haptic feedback) and the docking station which houses the AMD Fusion SOC, BR-drive, etc. The tablet would send all the control data to the docking station which renders the frame and send the frame back to the tablet, just like a local OnLive-service.
Since the video feed has to be decoded, there's a need for some kind of processor built into the tablet. That very processor (eg. an ARM9) could be used to run all sorts of non-gaming apps even when you're not in your streaming area.
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Ridleyscott said:
It hasn't mattered for the past few years because Nintendo had the market cornered on motion controls and steady releases of casual-friendly titles. Now? Not so much. Both Sony and Microsoft and making inroads against them in both those categories and are more likely to receive heavier third-party support than Nintendo and the Wii.
People are going to go where the high-profile games are and Nintendo can't keep up with Sony/MS and third-parties on their own. The blue ocean has turned red and times are rapidly changing.
Holy Order Sol
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Andrex said:Hey, Miyamoto said it himself.
I never said there should be exceptions.
Chet Rippo
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Boney said:
I do look at sales numbersRidleyscott said:
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/28220/Xbox_360_Division_Pushes_165_Million_Profit_For_MS_Q3.php
and that is why I ask where you get 80% of sales types of numbers
Ridleyscott said:
Then you haven't been paying attention to Nintendo's actions with big-name DS/3DS games have you?
Did you miss Monster Hunter Tri, perhaps Dragon Quest IX, or maybe even Super Street Fighter IV 3D? Nintendo has been making an effort to court 3rd parties, what they will not do is completely subsidize a game for a 3rd party just to get that game on their system.
The biggest reason Nintendo lacked large third party support on the Wii is because of how underpowered the system is. Nintendo is fixing this problem with the Super Wii, so they can also get 3rd party multi-platform titles. If you couple that with how Nintendo has begun to advertise for large 3rd party games on their systems then I don't see what you are blathering on about.
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chubigans bringing in the real talk.chubigans said:
Hell I remember when the Wiimote was first revealed EVERYBODY said "That'll be perfect for Pikmin 3!"
Holy Order Sol
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Truth101 said:
jesus stop trying to reason with this man
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