Rumor: Wii 2 at E3; 6" Touch Controller [Up: Cafe Header On Nintendo Site, More]
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plex said:
I'm a fan of defined motions. Not general motions like "shake the remote". To me, the best thing added to gaming has been pointer controls and using a motion to reload. Damn, if I could get a game like Bioshock with these controls options, I'd be in heaven. Which is why I hope they don't get rid of the remote + nunchuck style.
Mojojo said:
imo project cafe probably means you can play relaxing casual games on the controller when enjoying a cup of coffee, much like the hipsters sitting in starbucks with their ipads.
the tablet market is booming and people love the crappy toilet games on them. this is nintendos answer, play your typical wii games on the console, have to poop? no problem take the controller with you and play angry birds when pressing out coco snake.
From The Dust
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Im having a hard time making sense of that. Did they mean before Friday?thefro said:
No, they said "after". The first round of rumors were pretty much spot on (according to IGN, they're not even rumors, but verified facts), while pretty much everything reported after that, the GTAV rumor for example, is wild speculation or just plain bullshit spread by random sites to get hits.From The Dust said:
From The Dust
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So they mean last Friday, not the upcoming one.
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needlejuice said:
There ya go.
From The Dust
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An engineer who worked on the Cell processor and RSX gpu (and thus knows the ends and outs) is working with Nintendo Technology Developmentneedlejuice said:
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From The Dust said:
PS3 sideways compatibility confirmed!
Man E3 will be epic again this year, hope they won't blow the lid off everything during the next few weeks.
Lonewolf_92
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Exactly what I was thinking. Nintendo "wii" indeed!
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Of course not. Nintendo is the master of cock-teasingSidewinder said:
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Sidewinder said:
This is Nintendo, dude. They employ a clan of ninja specifically to keep their secrets secret.
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Lonewolf_92 said:
You're right, not like Sony leaking/divulging almost everything before their press conference. I miss the days when all I had was an E3 video game magazine filled with surprises and stuff
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Mistle said:
This would be interesting to hear. I don't remember any of the rumours being close to the truth before the Wiimote reveal, but perhaps that wasn't the case.
The question is, how do you design a controller with the said features with making everything confortable to reach.
Possibility 1: The screen is very high, probably foldable with the controls on the side.
Possibilty 2: The screen is wide and narrow, with the controlls on top/bottom.
And I remember one "Iwata asks..." were one of the designers showed a design with contol bricks(d-pad, stick) to change them for every game. It will probably have that, too.
Possibility 1: The screen is very high, probably foldable with the controls on the side.
Possibilty 2: The screen is wide and narrow, with the controlls on top/bottom.
And I remember one "Iwata asks..." were one of the designers showed a design with contol bricks(d-pad, stick) to change them for every game. It will probably have that, too.
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I'm probably wrong, but 4PM Japan time?antonz said:
Skiesofwonder
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Ok frick this. If Nintendo goes back to a two handed non-motion controller as their main focus and basically giving me a DS experience (without 3D) on my main TV... yeah I'm not interested in a Gamecube 2.0.
I love my Wii, and I either want something totally new (as the Wii did) or a successor to it. Not a step back (imo). Of course I'm jumping to conclusions right now, but if IGN is to be believed; I'll be giving most of my time to Microsoft and Kinect 2.0.
I love my Wii, and I either want something totally new (as the Wii did) or a successor to it. Not a step back (imo). Of course I'm jumping to conclusions right now, but if IGN is to be believed; I'll be giving most of my time to Microsoft and Kinect 2.0.
GregLombardi
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So based on all the latest commentary, and based on the Wii release schedule, it does appear as though Nintendo is abandoning their blue ocean.
This means their next product may be a luxury type console, which means they won't have the same success they did this generation. But they may be okay with that.
It will be very interesting to see how far they go.
This means their next product may be a luxury type console, which means they won't have the same success they did this generation. But they may be okay with that.
It will be very interesting to see how far they go.
Mistle said:
We knew Nintendo was working with the acclerometer company, so a lot of people guessed that would be there in some form.
There were so many mock-ups made a couple fans got pretty close to right and basically had broken the controller apart similiar to what the Remote/Nunchuk did. That got posted on GAF at some point.
Skiesofwonder said:
I'm beginning to think this is the case. They'll pack in an old nunchuk and Wiimote Plus (for games that absolutely require this scheme) and the new uber-core controller.
Nintendo doesn't really care about innovating as much as distancing themselves from the competition. If Sony and MS are going to go hardcore after casuals with motion, they'll build the ultimate hardcore dual analog controller to pander to the hardcore.
And if IGN is to be believed and they actually are going to have a decent AMD solution in it, it would align with "No gimmicks. Doing it right this time." They're giving the developers and hardcore "stuck-in-the-muds" exactly what they want. A significant bump from 360/PS3 and a dual analog controller that has the added bonus of inventory management from the touchscreen.
Can you create more casual and innovative local multi-player experiences with this? Yes. But my bet is they're abandoning the more hardcore motion because they don't want to compete with Kinect in this new battleground. And since MS and Sony seem focused on this group, they sense an opening for the hardcore group.
It'll be interesting to see if the hardcore Nintendo haters suddenly turn on dual analog and proclaim motion to be the superior form and Nintendo gimmicky.
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I think just getting the same content from Rockstar, Bethesda, Valve, etc, would be enough, no need to pay out for "big exclusives" that would just get ported 6 months later anyway. Nintendo has enough inhouse talent between Retro and NST that they could make a "mature" western franchise inhouse if they wanted, and enough cash that they could pick up an attractive studio if need be. And maybe they should, Rare/SK did used to fill that niche and it hasn't ever really been addressed since they left.Dascu said:
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1-D_FTW said:
Can we please get past this "Do it right" thing? I don't care which side of the gaming fence you sit on, from a business perspective the Wii was a masterful stroke. They absolutely did it right.
For gamers, they did it mostly wrong, I agree, but at least give context to statements.
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They could just license third parties to create games for the Cafe like they are doing with the wii. The Last Story, Pandora's Tower, Etc. I expect them to continue this trendlunchwithyuzo said:
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From The Dust said:
Wii 2 - hard to develop for and full of bottlenecks, confirmed.
Skiesofwonder
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1-D_FTW said:
That would be the dumbest strategy in the world for Nintendo (IMO). Who cares what a bunch of jaded "hardcore" stuck-in-the-mud gamers think? Nintendo has always been about giving Casual, Hardcore, and Bridge titles so everybody can get their fair share of gaming experiences.
And motion control has been proven sales and quality-wise. The Wii line-up, along with all the other huge salers that involve motion controls. Then we have titles like Shattered Memories, Red Steel 2, and the upcoming Skyward Sword which are (or will be) high quality titles that NEED motion control.
Causal gamers, lapsed, and non-gamers will never ever be able to play with a Dual-Analog setup. It's too complicated, awkward, and stupid. Hell some people barely can still use the Wiimote.
Nintendo should be building upon the Wiimote, not acting like it doesn't exist.
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GregLombardi said:
Well the question there is, how can one possibly top such a great magnitude of success this generation in the next? Perhaps it's best to just go with the tide and succeed as much as the tide can give. In time they might reach that height again (maybe the console after Wii2?).
GregLombardi
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Agreed. My personal console decision will be based on the software at this point if that's the case. Last gen it was based on console price / technology (I was about to go with PS3 until I saw the price. While I'd love to have all 3 consoles, it is not financially prudent for me to do so.) As such, show me the games and I'll buy your console after this generation. Software is going to be extremely key this generation if Nintendo is going back to the hardcore.robor said:
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And just to clarify my previous comment: Third Party software is going to be extremely key this generation if Nintendo is going back to the hardcore. It will define or break people's purchase decisions on consoles. So Nintendo better show the games or they're returning to the Gamecube with Project Cafe.
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A.KU.MU said:
I already had innovation with my Wiimote and Nunchuck. I want that to be built upon, not the archaic dual analog controllers from the early 2000s.
Doc Holliday
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If motion controls are out......good fucking riddance!!! That shit almost ruined dk returns. Oh let me blow on this flower, waggle, oops I'm rolling in to some hot ass lava. Arghhhhh
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